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ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Ruben Ayala (View posts)
Posted: 4 Dec 2003 3:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Apr 2005 6:10AM GMT
Surnames: ORTHWEIN
In researching for my wife's ancestors, I've found a listing on Ancestry.com that is a Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. It shows Catharine Louise Orthwein as applying for emigration in Oct 1853 with intentions of traveling to North America. She was born on 19 Nov 1832 in Kornwestheim.

I would like to find out more about this record # 837990. Can anyone recommend where I can find out about this?

Also, are church records available for Kornwestheim? Are there any researchers available that anyone can recommend.

Thanks for your help.

ruben

Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Barbara Parrish (View posts)
Posted: 5 Dec 2003 1:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
The emigration record is probably in the district office in Ludwigsburg. These records have been filmed and are available on loan for a small fee at local Family History Centers (FHC). A list of FHC can be found at www.familysearch.org At the same site or at the FHC you can find the card catalogue and helps for reading and translating the German. In the card catalogue you put in Ludwigsburg in the place search and then click on emigration. The card catalogue is a bit confusing on these particular records with the years overlapping. You may need to order more than one film to get the right one (the cost is usually about $3.25 in the U.S. It is usually possible to figure out the records by using the helps, finding the name that you want (the names are often underlined or off to the side), and then figuring out the rest of it. The FHC may or may not have someone that can help you with the German. They also maintain lists of researchers qualified to do research in the German records in the Salt Lake main library.
The Evangelische (Protestant) records have also been filmed from 1570 - 1900 for Kornwestheim. The best place to start is the Familienbuch. These organize the congregation by family and are wonderful.

Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Ruben Ayala (View posts)
Posted: 5 Dec 2003 2:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Apr 2005 6:11AM GMT
Thanks for the feedback, Barbara.


Ruben

Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Posted: 14 Oct 2006 10:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Is this who you are looking for?
1. Catharina Louise Orthwein, born 19-Nov-1832 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, confirmation Last
Known in Lincoln, IL, occupation bookeeper, housewife. At thirteen, she was sent away from home to a
girls school where she recieved commercial training. In 1853 she secured a position as a bookeeper and
correspondent in a commercial house in Stuttgart. There she met her future husband who was in the
Government Civil Service. They were married in 1854 and went to America.
She married Fred C. W. Koehnle, married 1854 in Germany, confirmation in Mt. Pulaski, IL, occupation
County Clerk. Emigrated from Germany with Louise. Moved to Logan County, IL. Elected Circuit Clerk in
1864 by biggest majority on ballot including A. Lincoln. Re-elected in 1868. Also elected to Lincoln, IL City
Council in 1869. Also on school board of inspectors. Was also agent of Wm. Scully, largest landholder in
area, managing dealings with tennant farmers. Was an original trustee, secretary and president of St. Johns
Evangelical Lutheran Church. Decendant??? Ralph Koehnle was mayor of Lincoln, 1941-1945.
Parents
2. Friederich Carl Orthwein, born 15-May-1807 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, baptized 16-May-1807 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 26-Feb-1889 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, buried in Kirchberg
A/Murr, Germany, occupation innkeeper/farmer. Freidrich was a farmer and also an innkeeper. He owned
the Crown Hotel in KIrchberg. This was sold to the town of Kirchberg in 1937. He came to the U.S. in
1855 with Charles and William Christina. They settled in Lincoln, IL. After a short time, he decided to
return to Germany, taking William and Christina with him. Charles, then 16, convinced him to let him
remain in the U.S. He married (1) Louise Wilhelmine Lidle, married 26-Jan-1832 in Schwaikheim,
Germany, born 31-May-1811 in Schwaikheim, Germany, died 15-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany,
buried 17-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. He married (2) Barbara Schwartz, married 1844,
died 1902 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Children by Louise Wilhelmine Lidle:
1. i Catharina Louise Orthwein, born 19-Nov-1832 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany,
confirmation Last Known in Lincoln, IL, occupation bookeeper, housewife. She married
Fred C. W. Koehnle, married 1854 in Germany.
ii Friederike Wilhelmine Orthwein, born 18-Jun-1837 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany,
confirmation last known in Mt Pulaski, ILL. Followed her sister to America sometime in
1854-55. It is unknown whether she was married to Henty Nolte before or after coming to
America. With the help of her father and brother (Charles) they purchased a 160 acre farm near
Mt. Pulaski, IL. She married Henry Nolte.
iii Friedrich Carl (Charles F.) Orthwein, born 28-Jan-1839 in Kornwestheim, N. Germany,
died 28-Dec-1898 in St. Louis, MO, buried 31-Dec-1898 in Bellefontaine Cemetary St. Louis,
MO, occupation Grain Merchant. After education and apprenticeships in Germany, came to
America with his father in 1855. When his father returned to Germany, he remained. He first
went into business in Lincoln, IL and later moved to St. Louis. He was in the grain brokerage
business- eventually owning his own company. He was the first M.W. broker to ship grain
down the Mississippi River and directly to Europe rather than through East coast brokers and
shippers. Charles is written up in Who's Who in America, The History of Missouri and The
History of St. Louis. He married Caroline Philophene Nulson, married 29-Oct-1866 in St.
Louis, MO.
iv Wilhelm (William) David Orthwein, born 09-Feb-1841 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany,
died 19-Aug-1925 in St. Louis, MO, buried 22-Aug-1925 in Bellefontaine Cemetary- St. Louis,
occupation Grain Merchant. He married Emily Helen Thuemmler, married 09-Jun-1870 in
St. Louis.
v Christina Carolina Orthwein, born 18-Feb-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. Came to
America when 12 years old with her father and brothers. She returned to Germany with her
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father where she remained the rest of her life. We don't have any further details as to whether
she married or had children.
vi Karl Gottfried Orthwein, born 21-Jul-1834 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, baptized
25-Jul-1834 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died ? in Kornwestheim, Wuettemberg, Germany.
Never mentioned in William O's book, we must assume that he must have died as an infant, if
he really is one of Freidrich's sons.
Children by Barbara Schwartz:
vii Ludwig Gottlob Orthwein, born 20-Feb-1845 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died
7-Apr-1845.
viii Ludwig Orthwein, born 1-Jun-1846 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 19-Oct-1847 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
ix Gottlob August Orthwein, born 27-Aug-1847 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died
31-Mar-1848 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
x Friederike Pauline Orthwein, born 12-Apr-1849 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died
18-Apr-1849 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
3. Louise Wilhelmine Lidle, born 31-May-1811 in Schwaikheim, Germany, died 15-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg
A/Murr, Germany, buried 17-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Grand Parents
4. Gottfried Balthasar Orthwein, born 20-Jun-1776 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, baptized 21-Jun-1776
in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 30-May-1852 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, buried 02-Jun-1852 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, confirmation in built "Crown Hotel" (or Inn) 1817??, occupation
farmer/butcher/innkeeper. According to William D. Orthwein's book, Gottfried only had four children, three
girls and a boy, Friedrich. Was he wrong or did the extra nine children we have records of belong to another
Gottfried Orthwein? He married Catharina Barbara Gruber, married 22-Nov-1803 in Kleinaspach,
Germany.
Children:
i Rolinda Magdalina Orthwein, born 30-Dec-1803 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
ii Rolinda Catharina Orthwein, born 02-Aug-1805 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
2. iii Friederich Carl Orthwein, born 15-May-1807 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, baptized
16-May-1807 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 26-Feb-1889 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany, buried in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, occupation innkeeper/farmer. He married
(1) Louise Wilhelmine Lidle, married 26-Jan-1832 in Schwaikheim, Germany, born
31-May-1811 in Schwaikheim, Germany, died 15-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany,
buried 17-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. He married (2) Barbara Schwartz,
married 1844, died 1902 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
iv Barbara Orthwein, born 6-Nov-1810 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
v Gottfried Orthwein, born 05-Aug-1809 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died ?.
vi Catharina Barbara Orthwein, born 17-Apr-1812 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
vii Gottfried Orthwein, born 22-Jul-1813 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died ?.
viii Friedrich Orthwein, born 10-Sep-1814 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died ?.
ix Louisa Barbara Orthwein, born 04-Jun-1816 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died ?.
x Louisa Friederike Orthwein, born 04-Oct-1817 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
xi Johann David Orthwein, born 12-Jan-1819 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
xii Gottfried Orthwein, born 18-Feb-1821 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
xiii Louisa Barbara Orthwein, born 01-Jul-1822 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
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5. Catharina Barbara Gruber, born 17-Mar-1781 in Lehnenberg, Germany, died 02-Feb-1855 in Kirchberg
A/Murr, Germany.
6. Johann Michael Lidle, born 15-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, baptized
16-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 25-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany, buried 27-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany. He married Catharina Barbara
Eckstein, married 17-May-1805 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
3. i Louise Wilhelmine Lidle, born 31-May-1811 in Schwaikheim, Germany, died
15-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, buried 17-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany. She married Friederich Carl Orthwein, married 26-Jan-1832 in Schwaikheim,
Germany.
ii Christopher Friedrich Lidle, born 23-Mar-1806 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
iii Magdalena Elisabetha Lidle, born 6-Sep-1807 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany,
baptized 8-Sep-1807 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
iv Ludwig Gottlob Lidle, born 29-Jun-1814 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died
17-Apr-1841 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, buried 19-Apr-1841 in Schwaikheim,
Wurttemberg, Germany.
v Carl Gottleib Lidle, born 2-Aug-1816 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
vi Christina Friederike Lidle, born 2-Jun-1818 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
vii Katharina Ernesta Lidle, born 7-Feb-1819 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
viii Karoline Lidle, born 20-Dec-1820 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
ix Katharina Ernestina Lidle, born 3-Jun-1822 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
x Karolina Augusta Lidle, born 8-Dec-1825 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
xi Karolina Augusta Lidle, born 16-Dec-1827 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
xii Wilhelm August Lidle, born 3-Jan-1829 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
xiii Gustav Lidle, born 1-Jul-1830 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
7. Catharina Barbara Eckstein, born 20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, baptized
20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 15-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany, buried 17-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
Great Grand Parents
8. Johann David Orthwein II, born 06-Sep-1727 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 05-Mar-1803 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. He married Elisabetha Margaretha Spengler, married 24-Nov-1772 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Children:
i Fredrich Carl Orthwein, born 20-Oct-1773 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 1817 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. In 1784 or 1785 he went to the Holland posessions in East India
and returned in 1817. When he returned he was in poor health and died within three weeks. He
had accumulated quite a little fortune, and since he had never married, left the money to his
only brother, Gottfried. It was with this money that Gottfried built the Crown Hotel or Inn.
ii Rolina Louisa Orthwein, born 23-Mar-1775 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
4. iii Gottfried Balthasar Orthwein, born 20-Jun-1776 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, baptized
21-Jun-1776 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 30-May-1852 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany, buried 02-Jun-1852 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, confirmation in built "Crown
Hotel" (or Inn) 1817??, occupation farmer/butcher/innkeeper. He married Catharina Barbara
Gruber, married 22-Nov-1803 in Kleinaspach, Germany.
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9. Elisabetha Margaretha Spengler, born 19-Feb-1740 in City near by, died 15-Jul-1807 in Kirchberg
A/Murr, Germany.
10. Christian Gruber. He married Barbara Etler.
Children:
5. i Catharina Barbara Gruber, born 17-Mar-1781 in Lehnenberg, Germany, died 02-Feb-1855
in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. She married Gottfried Balthasar Orthwein, married
22-Nov-1803 in Kleinaspach, Germany.
11. Barbara Etler.
12. Johan Georg Lidle, born 07-Jul-1740 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Maria Catharina
Eckstein, married 19-Jun-1759 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
6. i Johann Michael Lidle, born 15-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany,
baptized 16-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 25-Mar-1847 in
Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, buried 27-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany. He married Catharina Barbara Eckstein, married 17-May-1805 in
Wuerttemberg, Germany.
13. Maria Catharina Eckstein, born 13-Nov-1737 in Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 1809.
14. Johann Casper Eckstein, born 19-Feb-1743 in Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 10-Jul-1808 in
Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Eva Elisabeth Bregler, married 08-Feb-1774 in Wuerttemberg,
Germany.
Children:
7. i Catharina Barbara Eckstein, born 20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany,
baptized 20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 15-Mar-1847 in
Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, buried 17-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany. She married Johann Michael Lidle, married 17-May-1805 in Wuerttemberg,
Germany.
15. Eva Elisabeth Bregler, born 20-Dec-1757 in Bit???, Germany.
Great Great Grand Parents
16. Johann David Orttwein, born 18-Sep-1703 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 1-Sep-1755 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, occupation Farmer. He married Sabina Schnarrenberger, married
30-Apr-1726 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Children:
8. i Johann David Orthwein II, born 06-Sep-1727 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died
05-Mar-1803 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany. He married Elisabetha Margaretha Spengler,
married 24-Nov-1772 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
17. Sabina Schnarrenberger, born 12-Apr-1702 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
24. Johann Michael Lidle. He married Maria Agnes Schwarz, married 17-Dec-1733 in Wuerttemberg,
Germany.
Children:
12. i Johan Georg Lidle, born 07-Jul-1740 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Maria
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Catharina Eckstein, married 19-Jun-1759 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
25. Maria Agnes Schwarz.
26. Johann Burckhard Eckstein, born 02-Jul-1707 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Anna Maria
Haag, married 01-Mar-1731 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
13. i Maria Catharina Eckstein, born 13-Nov-1737 in Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 1809. She
married Johan Georg Lidle, married 19-Jun-1759 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
27. Anna Maria Haag, born 09-Feb-1703 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
30. Wolfgang Bregler. He married Elisabetha Motz.
Children:
15. i Eva Elisabeth Bregler, born 20-Dec-1757 in Bit???, Germany. She married Johann
Casper Eckstein, married 08-Feb-1774 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
31. Elisabetha Motz.
3rd Great Grand Parents
32. Hans Jacob Orttwein, born 1672, died 27-Nov-1749 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, occupation
Farmer. He married Maria Schmid, married 23-Nov-1707 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Children:
16. i Johann David Orttwein, born 18-Sep-1703 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died
1-Sep-1755 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, occupation Farmer. He married Sabina
Schnarrenberger, married 30-Apr-1726 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
33. Maria Schmid, born 1683, died 10-Dec-1747 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
52. Hans Bernhard Eckstein, born 03-Sep-1677 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Maria Sara
Bauer.
Children:
26. i Johann Burckhard Eckstein, born 02-Jul-1707 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married
Anna Maria Haag, married 01-Mar-1731 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
53. Maria Sara Bauer, born 23-Mar-1680 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
54. Johannes Haag. He married Anna Catharina ?haag?.
Children:
27. i Anna Maria Haag, born 09-Feb-1703 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. She married Johann
Burckhard Eckstein, married 01-Mar-1731 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
55. Anna Catharina ?haag?.
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4th Great Grand Parents
64. Hans Peter Orttwein, born 08-Dec-1639 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, occupation Farmer. He
married Anna Elisabeth Weidlin, married 27-Oct-1662 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Children:
32. i Hans Jacob Orttwein, born 1672, died 27-Nov-1749 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany,
occupation Farmer. He married Maria Schmid, married 23-Nov-1707 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany.
65. Anna Elisabeth Weidlin.
104. Hans Burckhard Eckstein II, born -Aug-1649 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Alice
Elisabetha Beiswangers, married 17-Aug-1676 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
52. i Hans Bernhard Eckstein, born 03-Sep-1677 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married
Maria Sara Bauer.
105. Alice Elisabetha Beiswangers.
106. Hans Jacob Bauer, born -Jun-1649 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Anna Maria Wolf.
Children:
53. i Maria Sara Bauer, born 23-Mar-1680 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. She married Hans
Bernhard Eckstein.
107. Anna Maria Wolf, born 08-Sep-1649.
5th Great Grand Parents
128. Erhardt Ortwein, born 1601 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 05-Jul-1640 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany, occupation Farmer & Senator. He married Agatha Krauss, married 00-Jan-1635 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
Children:
64. i Hans Peter Orttwein, born 08-Dec-1639 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, occupation
Farmer. He married Anna Elisabeth Weidlin, married 27-Oct-1662 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany.
129. Agatha Krauss, born 1600 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 02-Aug-1665 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany.
130. Melchior Ludwig Weidlin, occupation Schulmeister, Grossesport. He married ??? ?weidlin?.
Children:
65. i Anna Elisabeth Weidlin. She married Hans Peter Orttwein, married 27-Oct-1662 in
Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany.
131. ??? ?weidlin?.
208. Hans Bernhard Eckstein, born 04-May-1615 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Ursula
Schurer, married -Jan-1640 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
104. i Hans Burckhard Eckstein II, born -Aug-1649 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married
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Alice Elisabetha Beiswangers, married 17-Aug-1676 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
209. Ursula Schurer.
212. Jacob Bauer II, born 31-Jul-1600 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Sara ?bauer?.
Children:
106. i Hans Jacob Bauer, born -Jun-1649 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Anna Maria
Wolf.
213. Sara ?bauer?.
214. Andreas Wolff. He married Apollonia ?wolff?.
Children:
107. i Anna Maria Wolf, born 08-Sep-1649. She married Hans Jacob Bauer.
215. Apollonia ?wolff?.
6th Great Grand Parents
258. Leonhard Krauss. He married ??? ?krauss?.
Children:
129. i Agatha Krauss, born 1600 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, died 02-Aug-1665 in Kirchberg
A/Murr, Germany. She married Erhardt Ortwein, married 00-Jan-1635 in Kirchberg
A/Murr, Germany.
259. ??? ?krauss?.
416. Michael Eckstein. He married Catharina Schwartz.
Children:
208. i Hans Bernhard Eckstein, born 04-May-1615 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married
Ursula Schurer, married -Jan-1640 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
417. Catharina Schwartz, born 04-Nov-1583 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
424. Jacob Bauer, born 1567 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Anna ?baur?.
Children:
212. i Jacob Bauer II, born 31-Jul-1600 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Sara
?bauer?.
425. Anna ?baur?.
7th Great Grand Parents
834. Martin Schwartz. He married Catharina ?schwartz?.
Children:
417. i Catharina Schwartz, born 04-Nov-1583 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. She married
Michael Eckstein.
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835. Catharina ?schwartz?.
848. Hans Bauer. He married Margeretha ?bauer?.
Children:
424. i Jacob Bauer, born 1567 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Anna ?baur?.
849. Margeretha ?bauer?.
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Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Posted: 28 Jan 2010 6:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Excited about finding your post as my geneology is included. Do you know if Frederika Lidle who married Johannes Häußermann was a daughter of Johann Georg Lidle b. July 1740 in Schwaikheim? Her place of death is listed 8 Aug 1846 in Frühmeßhof. I believe her date of birth is 3 Jan 1808 in Affalterbach. I think I may be leaving a generation out. This seems to be my only questionable link.

Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Posted: 5 Feb 2010 9:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
I've got this:
1. Christina Friederike Lidle, born 2-Jun-1818.
Parents
2. Johann Michael Lidle, born 15-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, baptized
16-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 25-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany, buried 27-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany. He married Catharina Barbara
Eckstein, married 17-May-1805 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
i Louise Wilhelmine Lidle, born 31-May-1811 in Schwaikheim, Germany, died
15-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr, Germany, buried 17-Aug-1843 in Kirchberg A/Murr,
Germany. She married Friederich Carl Orthwein, married 26-Jan-1832 in Schwaikheim,
Germany.
ii Christopher Friedrich Lidle, born 23-Mar-1806 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
iii Magdalena Elisabetha Lidle, born 6-Sep-1807 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany,
baptized 8-Sep-1807 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
iv Ludwig Gottlob Lidle, born 29-Jun-1814 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died
17-Apr-1841 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, buried 19-Apr-1841 in Schwaikheim,
Wurttemberg, Germany.
v Carl Gottleib Lidle, born 2-Aug-1816 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
1. vi Christina Friederike Lidle, born 2-Jun-1818.
vii Katharina Ernesta Lidle, born 7-Feb-1819 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
viii Karoline Lidle, born 20-Dec-1820 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
ix Katharina Ernestina Lidle, born 3-Jun-1822 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
x Karolina Augusta Lidle, born 8-Dec-1825 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
xi Karolina Augusta Lidle, born 16-Dec-1827 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
xii Wilhelm August Lidle, born 3-Jan-1829 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
xiii Gustav Lidle, born 1-Jul-1830 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
3. Catharina Barbara Eckstein, born 20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, baptized
20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 15-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany, buried 17-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany.
Grand Parents
4. Johan Georg Lidle, born 07-Jul-1740 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, baptized 8 Jul 1740 in
Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 10 Feb 1817 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried
23 Feb 1817 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married (1) Maria Catharina Eckstein,
married 19-Jun-1759 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, born 13-Nov-1737 in Schwaikheim,
Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 15 Jan 1809 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 17 Jan 1809 in
Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, baptized 14 Nov 1737 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.
He married (2) Barbara ?lidle?.
Children by Maria Catharina Eckstein:
i ??? Lidle, born 1760, died 1760.
ii ???? Lidle, born 1762, died 1762.
iii Johan George Lidle, born 2 Mar 1764 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children by Barbara ?lidle?:
iv ????? Lidle, born 1867, died 1867.
v Johan Bernhard Lidle, born 17 Dec 1768.
2. vi Johann Michael Lidle, born 15-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany,
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baptized 16-Sep-1772 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 25-Mar-1847 in
Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, buried 27-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany. He married Catharina Barbara Eckstein, married 17-May-1805 in
Wuerttemberg, Germany.
vii ?????? Lidle, born 1775, died 1775.
5. Barbara ?lidle?.
6. Johann Casper Eckstein, born 19-Feb-1743 in Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 10-Jul-1808 in
Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Eva Elisabeth Bregler, married 08-Feb-1774 in Wuerttemberg,
Germany.
Children:
3. i Catharina Barbara Eckstein, born 20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany,
baptized 20-Dec-1786 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 15-Mar-1847 in
Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg, Germany, buried 17-Mar-1847 in Schwaikheim, Wurttemberg,
Germany. She married Johann Michael Lidle, married 17-May-1805 in Wuerttemberg,
Germany.
7. Eva Elisabeth Bregler, born 20-Dec-1757 in Bit???, Germany.
Great Grand Parents
8. Johann Michael Lidle, born 23 Jun 1707 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 27 Oct 1761 in
Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 29 Oct 1769 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. He
married Maria Agnes Schwarz, married 17-Dec-1733 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.
Children:
4. i Johan Georg Lidle, born 07-Jul-1740 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, baptized 8
Jul 1740 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 10 Feb 1817 in Schwaikheim,
Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 23 Feb 1817 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. He
married (1) Maria Catharina Eckstein, married 19-Jun-1759 in Schwaikheim,
Wuerttemberg, Germany, born 13-Nov-1737 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died
15 Jan 1809 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 17 Jan 1809 in Schwaikheim,
Wuerttemberg, Germany, baptized 14 Nov 1737 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. He
married (2) Barbara ?lidle?.
9. Maria Agnes Schwarz, born 3 Jun 1709 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 22 Oct 1759 in
Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 24 Oct 1759 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.
14. Wolfgang Bregler. He married Elisabetha Motz.
Children:
7. i Eva Elisabeth Bregler, born 20-Dec-1757 in Bit???, Germany. She married Johann
Casper Eckstein, married 08-Feb-1774 in Wuerttemberg, Germany.
15. Elisabetha Motz.
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Great Great Grand Parents
16. Jorg Ludlin. He married ??? ?ludlin?.
Children:
8. i Johann Michael Lidle, born 23 Jun 1707 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 27
Oct 1761 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 29 Oct 1769 in Schwaikheim,
Wuerttemberg, Germany. He married Maria Agnes Schwarz, married 17-Dec-1733 in
Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.
17. ??? ?ludlin?.
18. Lorenz Schwarz. He married ???? ?schwarz).
Children:
9. i Maria Agnes Schwarz, born 3 Jun 1709 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, died 22
Oct 1759 in Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany, buried 24 Oct 1759 in Schwaikheim,
Wuerttemberg, Germany. She married Johann Michael Lidle, married 17-Dec-1733 in
Schwaikheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany.
19. ???? ?schwarz).
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Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Posted: 5 Feb 2010 11:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lidle
Thanks.From your info, I think that my Frederika must have been married to one of Johann Michael Lidle's brothers since she was born in Affalterbach 3 Jan 1808 and died 8 Aug 1846 in Fruhmeshof.I thought her father was Johann Georg Lidle b. 7 July 1740, but I noticed that you only had him with 7 children born--he must have been her grandfather.Perhaps Christina Frederike was named after an aunt?? If anyone knows where my Frederike fits, please let me know. Thanks again.

Re: ORTHWEIN, Catharine Louise

Posted: 5 Feb 2010 11:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Correction: Frederike must have been the daughter, not wife.She was married to Johannes Hauessermann.
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