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Posted: 9 Feb 2010 12:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

Im looking for john and jane geddes. I have them on the 1851 census living in clerkenwell with some of thier children whilst their 2 eldest augustin and john are with their grandparents john and helen ritchie
I can't seem to find them on the 1841 census anywhere though. I've looked for a marriage as their first child is born in 1842 - thinking maybe they weren't married but i cant find a jane ritchie anywhere either!! any help in solving this would be appreciated as im going a bit crosseyed trying to find them. info below

john geddes - B: 1815 moray scotland
Jane geddes (ritchie?) B: 1821 moray scotland
1851 - living in clerkenwell near janes parents(?)
John and Helen Ritchie both born in elgin scotland.

thanks!

anna x
Posted: 29 Mar 2010 12:53PM GMT
Classification: Marriage
Hi Anna
Looks as though they decided to hang on and make sure before they took the plunge and got married.
From marriages on FreeBMD:
John Geddes June 1847 Hackney V.3 P.166. Also on same page is Jane Ritchie.
Regards
Linda
Posted: 29 Mar 2010 1:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again

Just noticed that the oldest two children are both recorded as being born in Scotland post 1841 so maybe you should be searching for the family there rather than in England.
Linda

Re: geddes

Posted: 30 Mar 2010 9:12PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: GEDDES
You hav'nt said the dob's for the children so

1841 SCOTLAND

JOHN C1816 BORN MORAY
IN ELGIN MORAY
BATCHERS STREET
OCC: PORT RENNER
WITH
ISABELLE 20
ELIZABETH 2
N.K. 9 DAYS

Re: geddes

Posted: 31 Mar 2010 10:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
hi - thankyou for your help but now im even more confused! I have him married to a jane not an isabelle and i have his children as follows:-

augustin - 1842
george - 1843
john - 1848
ellen (hellen?) 1850
frederick - 1850
james - 1852
alexander - 1853
charles - 1856

now im not sure if all these are right but i still cant find him on the 1841 census - unless he was married to isabelle and then something happened and he went on to marry jane in london? but what happend to his children with isabelle?! oh im so confused! any help in unravelling this would be greatly appreciated!

anna x

Re: geddes

Posted: 31 Mar 2010 11:00AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: geddes
JOHN GEDDES
MARRIED
ISABEL PAXTON
21 JUL 1838 Elgin, Moray, Scotland

*******************************

CHILDREN
AUGUSTA ANNE JENKINS GEDDES
BORN 30TH MAY 1841
BAPTISED 10 JUN 1841 Elgin

GEORGE WILLIAM JENKINS GEDDES
12TH MAR 1843
27 MAR 1843 Elgin

ELIZABETH WRIGHT GEDDES
BORN 8TH MAY 1839
22 MAY 1839 Elgin


By not obtaining birth certificates for the children - you have missed the fact that the 1st 3 are by a different mum - always best to obtain at least 2 certs - 1 for the eldest & 1 for the youngest (avoids confusion and going down "wrong roads")
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