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Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 1 Aug 2012 6:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Retzl
Hello,

Curious if anybody could help me...My Great-Grandfather was Joseph Retzl. He was born in 1880 (unsure where), left Hohenau, Austria in 1912 with his wife (Franziska, aka Fannie) for the United States. At that time they had two children (Frank and Johann/Hans/John). Joseph died in 1970. Unfortunately, he was not a very nice man and my Grandfather did not speak of him at all. I can not seem to find any records of Joseph's parents or any other information that would allow me to dig further into this branch of my family. I appreciate any help!

Kenneth

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 30 Sep 2012 9:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Sep 2012 9:48PM GMT
shipmanifest says she was going to ....?in law Josef Retzl, Davenport Fulton Ave. little bit confusing....who she are
and why not Josef in the list. or did Josef´s parents came before them and father had the same firstname? so maybe it means going to father-in-law?

First Name: Franziska
Last Name: Retzl
Ethnicity: Austria, German
Last Place of Residence: Hohenau, Austria
Date of Arrival: Mar 14, 1912
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Niagara
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0005

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?MID=16900218...
any connections to yours?

this person went to parents Josef and Franziska in Bettendorf.with him a woman with son going to R.Peterla (husband) also in Bettendorf, they also came from Hohenau:
First Name: Ferdinand
Last Name: Retzl
Ethnicity: Austria, German
Last Place of Residence: Hohenan, Austria
Date of Arrival: Feb 06, 1921
Age at Arrival: 16y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Ryndam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Holland
Manifest Line Number: 0028
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bettendorf,_Iowa

do you mean Hohenau an der March in Lower-Austria?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenau_an_der_March
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenau_an_der_March
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&pq=hohenau&cp=8&...

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 30 Sep 2012 9:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Sep 2012 9:45PM GMT
were they roman.cath. or jewish?

Hohenau also had a small jewish community and think Retzl/Retzel also was a jewish name.
in any case there is an old jewish cemetery how IKG Vienna shows:
http://www.ikg-wien.at/?page_id=1139&lang=en

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 30 Sep 2012 10:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

Thanks for the information you've provided. I know a little about Joseph Retzl, but not much.

His wife (Franziska) came with Joseph, I do not know why Joseph is not showing up in the Ellis Island documents (perhaps they misspelled his name). As for the others, Ferdinand who came later, is my great-uncle Frank (I believe). Joseph and Franziska came to the USA with my grandfather (Johann/Hans) when he was about a year old. Because of money problems, they left their other son (Frank/Ferdinand) back in Austria with family and sent for him when they had enough money. It appears it was about 9 years until Ferdinand was able to come to America. As for the other two Retzl names you sent (Mathias and Theresia), I do not know those individuals.

I believe the Retzl's were Roman Catholic as that is what my grandfather was. I have found a few Retzl's that are still in Austria, but worry that so much time has past that my line of Retzl ancestry is all but forgotten.

Thanks

Kenny

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 1 Oct 2012 2:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Oct 2012 2:10PM GMT
yes, maybe Josef´s name is misspelled in the list.

phonebook: http://www.herold.at/en/telefonbuch/
yes, some Retzl in Niederösterreich/Lower-Austria:
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/nieder%C3%B6sterreich/retzl...
only 2 in district Gänserndorf, where Hohenau belonges:
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/g%C3%A4nserndorf/retzl/
adress in Dürnkrut, south of Hohenau an der March would be the closest.
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&cp=5&gs_id=3p&x...

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 23 Feb 2013 10:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi im also researching my family there may be a link between our tow familys .

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 23 Feb 2013 10:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi im also researching my family there may be a link between our tow familys .

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 24 Feb 2013 1:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Joseph Retzl oo 16.2.1908 in Hohenau Franziska Peterla.

Joseph is born in Hausbrunn, district Mistelbach 17.12.1880.
His mother: Johann Retzl, later married Sauer.

Franziska was a sewer in Hohenau. Born 2.5.1887 in Lundenburg (cz: Breclav), district Göding (cz: Hodonin) in Mähren (Czech).

Her parents: Matthäus Peterla, +Schuhmacher in Hohenau and Maria Talas (with an hacek on the s).

http://www.matricula.findbuch.net/php/view2.php?ar_id=3670&a...= (page 140)


children:
Joseph * 21.11.1908 +25.5.1909 (page 172)
Franz Ferdinand * 3.12.1909 (p. 220)
Johann * 27.11.1911 (p.308)

http://www.matricula.findbuch.net/php/view2.php?ar_id=3670&a...=

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 24 Feb 2013 1:13PM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: Joseph Retzl (1880-1970) - Hohenau, Austria

Posted: 24 Feb 2013 9:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much...this helps a lot.

Unfortunately, I do not speak German, but it does not appear that Joseph Retzl's father is listed on p 140. Is that correct?

In any case, it is very interesting to know that my great-grandfather had siblings (I knew of Franz, but never Joseph Jr).

Thanks again!

Kenny
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