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Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 8:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
My husband's maternal grandmother is Emma Shubin and was born on the Atlantic Ocean in 1900-1901 while her mother was in transit to the U.S. She had eight children and was known to have lived in Oakland California about 1939 or 1940. We know nothing of her husband or the children except my husbands' mother who was adopted and never knew her birth mother. Emma is not listed in the 1940 census and we are stumped. Shubin seems to be her maiden name, and possibly she was married to one Harry Bloss from Oklahoma.

Any thoughts out there?

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 3:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Did you know there is a Russian Molokan message board? It is an active board and my suggestion is to copy and paste your request in the message and resend.

Also, please identify who the children are and what you saw on the census. The more information you can give, the better to have someone help you. Emma Shubin is a common name.

http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.religious.molokan/mb.ashx

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 31 Dec 2012 1:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Nancy - thanks for the quick response.

First, I'll answer that I don't have names of any of Emma Shubin's children except my mother (still living). I'll check the message board you recommended, but I have some clarifying questions about the results you cite. I cross-referenced Emma's street address as listed on my mother's birth certificate to the 1940 Oakland Alameda California census. I found her name there listed as Emma Fellows. Then on, crossreferencing to the 1930 census. This led to several trees on Ancestry.com and found several lines, including yours.

One tree listed the 1910 census, which I searched and found in California > Los Angeles > Los Angeles Assembly District 74 > 0065 > 21 > 0065 > 21 of 26 > family 201 matches your reference with head of household Elia Shubin, father of Jacob Shubin has a granddaughter the correct age as my Emma but is listed Fania (Tania seems the correct lettering) by name. Emma is not found in the census, so my question is how to confirm the connection? Is there another document that matches Tania Shubin to Emma Shubin in this line?

On "Find A Grave" you list the following: "Emma Jacob (Shubin) Martino is the daughter of Jacob Elia'vich Shubin (1882-1917) and Fedosia Tamalin (?-?). She is one of three known children: Emma, Martha and Martin.

"She married three times. She first married Peter George Shuteroff (1902-1974) before 1920. They have a son Peter. The marriage probably ended in divorce. Emma's second husband was Arthur Fellows (1883-1956). They have eight known children: Arthur, Edna, Martha, Eva, Percival, Larissa, Theodore, and Ralph. Emma's third husband was Guy Martino."

You then link Jacob Elia'vich Shubin to "...Elia Vasilli'vich Emil Shubin and Fenya Uraine. He is one of seven known children: John, Jacob, Abram, Michael, Anna, Moisey, and Manya."

Wordy, I know but I appreciate your help.

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 31 Dec 2012 3:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, you found the correct information:
On "Find A Grave" you list the following: "Emma Jacob (Shubin) Martino is the daughter of Jacob Elia'vich Shubin (1882-1917) and Fedosia Tamalin (?-?). She is one of three known children: Emma, Martha and Martin.

"She married three times. She first married Peter George Shuteroff (1902-1974) before 1920. They have a son Peter. The marriage probably ended in divorce. Emma's second husband was Arthur Fellows (1883-1956). They have eight known children: Arthur, Edna, Martha, Eva, Percival, Larissa, Theodore, and Ralph. Emma's third husband was Guy Martino."

You then link Jacob Elia'vich Shubin to "...Elia Vasilli'vich Emil Shubin and Fenya Uraine. He is one of seven known children: John, Jacob, Abram, Michael, Anna, Moisey, and Manya."

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Parents: Jacob Elia'vich Shubin (1882-1917) and buried in Olivet Memorial Park, Colma, CA; and Fedosia Tamalin
Children: Martin, Martha, Emma

Send me your email and I'll send you what I have. Mine is heisable2@comcast.net

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 15 May 2013 10:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Emma shubin fellows martino is my great grandmother. Peter shuteroff was adopted by arthur fellows and changed his name to michael fellows. mr martinos first name was a short version of his true name, i have it written down although i don't remember it. She had three kids with him. Great uncle Ralph is alive. Which of Emmas children are you related to? My grandmother was Eva, although a lot of times she went by Eve Ann. She married James Ashcroft, Richard M Murphy, then lastly Harold Palmer. Please contact me, Id love to exchange any and all info. Thanks, Tamie. lostinlimbo2day@gmail.com

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 15 May 2013 5:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
I do not remember if I heard from you or if I sent you information you requested. Did we connect and I forgot?

Nancy
heisable2@comcast.net

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 27 May 2013 1:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello! My name ia Michael, Dannine's husband and Emma Shubin is my grandmother. My mother, still living, was adopted. Genella Ream is the name her adopted parents gave her. She was born in Oakland in November 1939, the eighth live birth.

The birth certificate lists Harry Bloss as the biological father, but we have no information on him. We validated all the vital details on the 1040 Census, with a matching address to the birth certificate.

As you can see, this is a complex family but what a great thing to have connected with you. Our goal is to sort out Emma's children, and parents.

If you have information in "gedcom" format, or just a scanned pedigree or family group record, we would be thrilled to receive it.



Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 28 May 2013 6:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello, how exciting! Yes, our family is anything but boring. I'm not good with the gedcom thing at all, so i don't know what to do regarding that. On my dad's side I've found family dating back to the 1300's and on a gedcom file too, yet I've had nothing but problems trying to export, import, etc etc. i'll try to add you to my tree thing so you can look at that, otherwise any suggestions I'm up for too. My email is lostinlimbo2day@gmail.com. Love Tamie

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 28 May 2013 6:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi nancy, I'm not sure if you were asking me specifically or not but i would like all the info that you have. Of Emma's children there are only a few still living: Larissa, Elaine, Ralph, Percival (i think), and Genella..maybe one of the moreno children too...well that's more than a few. Lol. Anyway, id love any info. Thank you, Tamie. lostinlimbo2day@gmail.com

Re: Emma Shubin, born on the Atlantic

Posted: 4 Jul 2014 7:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Shubin
Hi Tamie - I'm back with my own Subscription now--Was using my wife Dannine's before. Still looking for more Shubin information. I've attached to my line all that I think is reasonably verified but I'm still really stumped trying to find a birth record for Emma Shubin. Since she was born on a boat, there should be a record somewhere, but I don't know where to look.

Also trying to piece together the history of the family's migration from Russia to the US: What were the reasons for the move? Where did they originate from, where did the ship(s) sail from, and to, name of ship? Lots of questions here.

If you have any info on this, I would be thrilled to take a look at it.

Thanks, again
Mike
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