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Charles B. ST-ANDRE - m.1870 Mackinac - Eliza HOBSON (Hobshon)

Charles B. ST-ANDRE - m.1870 Mackinac - Eliza HOBSON (Hobshon)

Posted: 20 Nov 2000 11:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Jul 2004 10:55PM GMT
Surnames: St-Andre, St. Andre, Hobson, Hobshon
Hi! thank you! Do you have any info about a Charles B St Andre?..he married Eliza Hobson (Hobshon?) in Mackinac in 1870...he was 29..they had 7 children..I am decended from their son Oliver St Andre..Charles was a ship's Captain...I know little else about them. Thank you so much for anything else u may have..and do u know where I can get a copy of that book? Thanks again ...Chelle

Re: St Andre

Posted: 14 Aug 2001 12:48AM GMT
Classification: Lookup
Edited: 5 Jan 2002 4:20PM GMT
Surnames: St. Andre
Chelle,
I am decendent of Pierre Botquin dit St. Andre. There are several families that uses the St. Andrie name in some form and I am trying to piece together all the hisorty of the Botquin-St. Andre family. If your Charles St. Andre is a decendent of Pierre Botquin dit St. Andre, born St. Pierre, Sauman, Anjou, France about 1650, married Marie Claude Bourgouin and they migrated to Canada, please contact me at: lstandrie@cyberlan.net I do know that a Charles St. Andre, related to our lineage, was with Cadillac at Fort Detroit, as was a Botquin.
Thamks for any assistance on this.
Lester St. Andrie

Oliver St. Andre b.1906 m. Eva Townshend

Rick Tormala (View posts)
Posted: 29 Nov 2002 3:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Jul 2004 10:58PM GMT
Surnames: St-Andre, St. Andre, Townshend, Hobshon, Yeoshon
My Grandmother, Dorothy St.Andre, was the oldest daughter of Oliver St.Andre and Eva Townshend St.Andre born in 1906 at the Seul Choix point lighthouse in the UP . Oliver's Father, my Great-great Granfather was Charles St.Andre, not a ship's captain but a Civil war Veteran who was a corporal in the 7th Cavalry mustering out in Utah in 1865. He married Eliza Yeoshon or Hobshon a Native American in October 1970 in Mackinac. The Ship Captain for 2 decades on the high seas was Eva's father , my other Great, great Grandfather Joseph Wiley Townshend who died a in 1910 at Seul Choix Pt. Lighthouse in 1910 ending his short stint as a lighthouse keeper and is reported to be the ghost residing there to this day. Oliver was a lighthouse keeper and died in the late forties or early fifties before by birth. I can tell you what happened to his children and some other family stories.

Re: St Andre

Posted: 29 Nov 2002 3:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Apr 2004 11:18PM GMT
Surnames: Goudreau/St. Andre
Hi Rick! Your g-g-great grandfather Willy Townshend's son Ivan married my great Aunt Hannah Goudreau. I have lots of stories about Willy...he is suppose to be the "ghost" of Seul Choix Point! I have info on the Townshends if you need any!
HOpe to hear from ya! Teresa

Re: St Andre

Rick Tormala (View posts)
Posted: 2 Dec 2002 3:05AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Teresa:

I always wondered how Uncle Ivan became Catholic. I knew Aunt Hannah when I was young and she lived in Grand Rapids.
My Great Uncle Ivan St.Andre, son of Oliver and Eva was named after him. Jack Townshend, who I believe with my Uncle Jack St.Andre are the last of the first cousins, lives in GR and has about eight kids.

I know about the ghost, in fact in the book Haunted Lakes II by Frederick Stonehouse the little girl next to Captain Townshend is my Grandmother, Dorothy St.Andre Tormala. I am curious if you know anything about Joseph Wiley being descended from the Marques of Townshend? Grandma said that was the story from her youth told by Aunt Bess.

It was great to hear fom you!

Take care,

Rick

Re: St Andre

Joan (View posts)
Posted: 15 Aug 2003 11:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Jul 2004 10:59PM GMT
Rick,
I am a granddaughter of Eva Elaine your grandmothers sister. My mother is Barbara. I have been researching the Townshend family tree for a few years and I keep running into road blocks. Can you send me what you have? If you need any information on the St. Andre side I can send you my spreadsheet. It goes back to the 1850 US census.

Re: St Andre

Rick Tormala (View posts)
Posted: 16 Aug 2003 2:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Joan,
The Townshend side is hard to trace. I only know what Grandma told me and some research on our Great, Great Grandfather Joseph Wiley Townshend. Grandma, Uncle Dick and Uncle Ivan were the only St.Andre children that had slight memories of him mostly from his funeral at the lighthouse, the one he "haunts". Grandma said Aunt Bess told her Joseph was a descendent of the Marquis of Townshend, although which one I don't know, but below are some possibilities. Hope it points you in the right direction.
Take care,
Rick
Capt. Lord JAMES TOWNSHEND
1785-1842Born 11th of September 1785 - Died 28th of July 1842Full name: JAMES NUGENT BOYLE BERNADO TOWNSHEND Youngest son of George, the first Marquis Townshend, by his second lady, Anne, daughter of Sir William Montgomery, Bart. [This is in conflict with the biography of the 1st Marquess that says Anne was rather the daughter of Sir James William Montgomery]

"Lord Sydney"
THOMAS TOWNSHEND, 1733-1800 who has the cleft chin that runs through some of the St.Andre family

TOWNSHEND, GEORGE, 4th Viscount and 1st Marquess TOWNSHEND, an army officer and artist; b.28 Feb. 1723/24; d. 14 Sept.1807 at Raynham Hall, Norfolk, England1773 he married Anne, daughter of Sir James William Montgomery and sister of William*; this marriage is said to have produced six children. Townshend was one of the favoured people who in July 1767 received 20,000-acre grants in St John's (Prince Edward) Island, being awarded Lot 56 in the east end of the Island. In 1770, embarrassed by his Irish expenses, he was trying unsuccessfully to sell this land [His youngest son, Captain Lord James Townshend eventually inherited this property] . Like so many of the absentee proprieters, he seems to have done nothing to settle or develop his grant.

Re: Charles B. ST-ANDRE - m.1870 Mackinac - Eliza HOBSON (Hobshon)

Posted: 21 Apr 2005 6:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Sep 2005 9:04PM GMT
Surnames: St. Andre
Chelle,
I have a Charles St. Andrie in my family tree. He was a soldier with Champaigne in Michigan (at Fort Detroit). Also at Fort Detroit was a Botquin that is believed to be one of our ancestors. The originality of the name comes from Pierre dit St. Andre Botquin, born St. Pierre, Surmur, Anjou, France about 1640. He married Marie Claude Bourgouin and they migrated to Canada and settled in Quebec Province.
The name Botquin was dropped by a lot of the descendents until there are very few left today. I did locate one in Montreal, but have been unable to contact him.
If you have any information on any St. Andre (Botquin) clans, let me know. I have a fairly decent family tree on our family from Pierre I, to my great-grandchildren.
I will need your physical address to send you a copy of the tree, due to privacy considerations. If you will send me your address, I will get the copy to you.
Lester
Posted: 9 Aug 2005 11:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Sep 2005 9:04PM GMT
Surnames: St. Andre, St. Andrie, St. Andria, St. Andry and Botquin
Rick, The St. Andre family that I am a descendant of originated with Pierre Botquin dit St. Andre, born in St. Pierre, Surmur, Anjou, France and married Marie Claude Bourgouin. They migrated to Canada and had a son named Pierre, who, in turn, named one of his sons Pierre.
This 3d Pierre had a son named Jacques, who in turn had several children. Some of the St. Andre clan were soldiers at Fort Detroit with Champaign (Champlain) and also a Charles St. Andre/Botquin was there, though I am not sure if it was as a soldier or as a tradesman.
He could have been a farmer.
I have a good family tree from Pierre Botquin dit St. Andre to my great grandchildren. I will share it with anyone that is interested in researching the family from Pierre and adding any information that will help me in furthering my tree. There is a lady in Michigan that is from the Pierre St. Andre lineage and I am hoping she will send me some information that I can add to my research.
IF you (or anyone reading this) are interested in my sending you a copy of the tree, just send me your snail mail address and I will run -off a copy for you or them and send it.
Best regards and hoping to hear from some of you about the St. Andre family.
Lester C. St. Andrie (named changed when entering the US Air Force)

Wiley Townshend & Seul Choix

Posted: 23 Dec 2009 1:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Teresa,

I'm one of the authors of books that focus on Michigan (i.e., Michigan Vacation Guide, Haunted Travels of Michigan). We're working on a second book. One of the stories in the next book will include Seul Choix Lighthouse (Gulliver, MI). I'd appreciate any stories you may have (and be willing to share) on Joseph Wiley Townshend, his brother James, or any of the family!

Whatever time/information you're willing to share will be appreciated!

Kathleen Tedsen
TR Desktop Publishing
ktedsen@mivg.com
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