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Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 5:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Could anyone help me with some information?
I'm looking for information about Gerald McEllistrim. It seems he was born at Cardiff, Wales, England on Dec 21st 1908, but some papers point he was Irish.
His parents names were John McEllistrim + Julia (but she's not sure). Gerald was a merchant navy seaman and he travelled around the world. On April 1936 he asked for American Naturalization and on the papers of petition says that his name was "Gerald Montrio (formerly Gerald McEllistrim or Gerald McEllistrim Brooks). It's a mistery the reason for which he changed his paternal name McEllistrim to Montrio.
He married in USA with an Argentinian woman and had 2 children a boy (called Gerald like him) and a girl. His children brought the adopted name Montrio.
His son Gerald dissappeared with a friend (they both had 15 and 13 years old) and never had been found. Now this story is a cold case recently reopened and published in the NAMUs data base.
His daughter says her father never told them about his origins, his family. She knows very little about his father.
Why he changed his family name?

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 3:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Had alook to see if I could find a birth record for him and in Free BMD Link
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
There is a birth registration for a Gerald McEllistrim Brooks Mar 1909 Cardiff 11a 476
Gerald Brooks age 2 is also showing in the 1911 Welsh census
Father Isaiah Brooks miner age 36 b. Glamorgan Mother Julia Brooks age 34 b. Tralee Kerry (wonder if she was Julia McEllistrim) parent married 16 yrs and had 7 children 6 alive in 1911.
Will check to see if there is any record of a McEllistrim/ Brooks marriage.
annclare

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 3:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Isaiah Brooks marriage Jan Mar 1895 Tralee registration district Kerry volume 5 page 513 and on the same page there is a Julia Mcellistrim- so it looks as if this is probably the correct marriage reference.

annclare

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 4:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Found Isaiah Brooks in the Irish 1901 census Tralee Kerry with wife Julia and three of the children that are showing in the Welsh 1911 census - Alphonsus John and Eileen.
Isaiah's occupation is hairdresser whereas in the 1911 census it is shown as miner- quite a change.
Link to Irish census- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Trale...

regards
annclare

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 4:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
And this is the church marriage record in showing Julia's father as Stephen
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details...

annclare

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 5:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Annclare, you cannot imagine how much I appreciate your help. That's amazing. I've been years looking for him as Gerald McEllistrim, and now I have this huge information. Many, many thanks.
Best regards,
Francesca

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 9 May 2013 11:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Annclare seems to have done quite a bit of work here, hopefully I can add a little:

Stephen McEllistrim was from Tralee, born 05 July 1840 to John McEllistrim & Julia Huggard.
Stephen McEllistrim from Tralee, Co. Kerry married Johanna Sullivan from Kilfalney, Killeentierna in Killeentierna parish church on 27 February 1876. They had 5 children born to them at Nelson Street, Tralee, Co. Kerry. Nelson Street was named after Admiral Nelson of the British Navy. After Ireland won independence in 1921, it was renamed Ashe Street after the Irish patriot Thomas Ashe. The four children were born as follows:
Julia McEllistrim born 14 January 1877
Garrett M. McEllistrim born 26 July 1878
Catherine McEllistrim born 26 July 1879
John McEllistrim born 03 November 1881
Stephen McEllistrim born 04 September 1883

We know that Julia married Isaiah Brooks in 1895 and they can be found on the 1901 Irish census in The Square, Tralee.
Garrett can be found at No. 25 Nelson Street where he is listed as a nephew of Michael & Julia Ryan(nee McEllistrim). His occupation is listed as railway clerk. The only other mention of Garrett is that he was eligible for a pension in the UK.
John received his naturalisation papers in Illinois, USA on 26 September 1906. He lists his date of immigration as 13 May 1899.
Stephen Jr. emigrated to the USA on 30 March 1901. He gave his age as 20 and said he was going to his mother at Douglas Boulevard, Chicago. She can be found on the 1900 US Census as "Joan McEllistrie", a single housekeeper at a pastors house on Douglas Boulevard. She lists her emigration as 1890. She can be found on the 1910 Census as Johanna Mcelistrum, again a housekeeper, this time listed as widowed. She died in Chicago on 02 September 1933.
Stephen Jr. married Gertrude Emily Jackson ON 21 April 1912 in Chicago, Illinois. They had at least 8 children: Catherine Marie, Steven, Mabel, Gertrude, Irene, Maryanne, Clare & Don. He became a naturalized American citizen on 19 February 1915 in Chicago Illinois. He gave his address as 5716 Union Avenue, Chicago. He worked as an engineer with the railway. Stephen Jr. died on 17 August 1967 in Los Angeles, California.

Eoin

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 10 May 2013 7:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
I believe that Garrett McEllistrim went to Wales also. In the 1911 Welsh census at 34 Bailey St Wattstown Glamorgan there is a Gerrard McEllistrum age 32 born Tralee Kerry occupation signalman married 2 years wife Margaret Ann and daughter Martha Jane aged 1 yr.
Also I think this is the same person showing in the WW1 Medal Rolls as having been in the Welsh Regiment Royal Engineers- as a private - Regimental nos. 16855 WR 280659 and 247811.
annclare

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 11 May 2013 11:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Eoin, thank you very much for all this informations. It helps a lot.
Best regards, Francesca

Re: Looking for Gerald McEllistrim or McIllistrim later Gerald Montrio

Posted: 20 Jul 2013 6:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 20 Jul 2013 6:38AM GMT
He was born Gerald McEllistrim BROOKS on 21 Dec 1908 Cardiff, Glamorgan Wales
Parents: Isaiah BROOKS and Julia McELLISTRIM who married 10 Jan 1895 in Tralee, Co Kerry Ireland.
He was the 7th born and 6th surviving, of 8 children born to his parents.
First he dropped the BROOKS & went as ELLISTRIM, prior to or around 1930 (possibly at the time he went to sea)
Then he dropped ELLISTRIM and assumed MONTRIO from around 1936 onward after he arrived in US as an emigrant.
Though he had been to the US as a ships crewman as early as 1930, he emigrated formally the US in April 1936 on the ship, "Steel Scientist". He appeared on the Crew List as Gerald ELLISTRIM as an Able Seaman from Singapore to NY. On arrival in NY, he was formally discharged as crewman Gerald ELLISTRIM and then listed on the list of disembarking Passengers as a visa carrying Gerald McEllistrim BROOKS, Contruction Engineer. He applied for US Naturalisation later in 1936 under MONTRIO but on the petition, declared himself as having arrived in April 1936 Gerald McEllistrim BROOKS.

NOTE: The same question about Gerald was posted on Mutliple Boards! I'm linking them all up, to avoid anyone else doing what I just did - spend heaps of time on research to try help (via the Falkland Island Board) only to later find r the other posts and some duplication of effort on other boards (the ones marked **)!

Malaysia
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.asia.malaysia.general/...
Falkland Islands
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.britishovers...
** Kerry,Ireland
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.ireland.ker....
** Wales:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.wales.genera...
** Wales, Glamorgan
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.wales.genera...

In addition - Francesca as posted a message about the parents and siblings of Gerald, here (where I am about to add some information):
USA General - re: BROOKS
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.general/29...

His father Isaiah (age a bit out) enlisted for WW1 in Wales:
1914: WW1 Military Service Record
#13988 Isaiah BROOKS age 34 & 300 days
Hairdresser, Married,
Attested 21 Sep 1914 for the Royal Dublin Fusiliers, at Pontypridd, Glamorgan Wales.
Saw active Service overseas
Discharged 7 Sep 1916, no longer fit for Service
Discharged to 5 G------ford St, Cardiff (Wife was also at one point at 5 Belle Vue, Cardiff)
Particulars of Marriage:
Isaiah BROOKS & Julia McELLISTRUM (maiden surname) , married Tralee (Co. Kerry, Ireland on 10 Jan 1895. Witess: Arthur E RAILES & Johanna Mary RYAN
Particulars of Births
Eileen Catherine Mary born 14 Jan 1901
Marie - born 3 July 1902
Stephen Finbar - born 29 Apr 1904
Gerald McEllistrum - born 21 Dec 1908
Pauline Julia - born 4 Dec 1912

Note the births are only for the dependant children he is legally supporting at the time (they are listed for pay, pension purposes) - the older children not listed as they are not counted for this purpose. This is also the reason his marriage details are listed, to validate his dependant wife for pay/pension.

Cheers
Anne
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