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How is it possible....

How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 1:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Apr 2012 9:19PM GMT
Surnames: Ziegler
For someone to have absolutely NO records on ancestry.com? I'm looking for information about my uncle, Alfred Ziegler. All I find is the 1920 census listing when he was seven years old. There is absolutely nothing else anywhere and I've searched all kinds of sites, not only this one. How is possible for someone who was arrested as a juvenile, sent to prison, drafted for WWII, etc. to have NO records anywhere?

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 2:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
is this the one you are referring to?
Name: Alfred Ziegler
Age: 7
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 22, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: William Ziegler
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Name: Edith Ziegler
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Ziegler 37 head abt 1883
Edith Ziegler 36
Alfred Ziegler 7
Henrietta Ziegler 5
Paul Ziegler 1
[1 11/12]
Alice Ziegler 0
[0/12]
Dorothy Maccallen 16

this appears to be the same family....and Alfred can be a middle name

1930
Name: William A Ziegler
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: William E Ziegler
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Name: Edith C Ziegler
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William E Ziegler 48
Edith C Ziegler 47
William A Ziegler 17
Henrietta M Ziegler 15
Paul E Ziegler 12
Alice P Ziegler 10
Florence H Ziegler 7
[4 3/12]
John W Ziegler 5
[5 2/12]
Dorothy E Moser 25
Alice S Zeigler 47

I am not realted

Connie

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 2:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
I’m not related to any member of this family.

1930 is the last available searchable census at this time.

1940 census has been released but it will take several months before the transcription is completed.


You did not state WHERE Alfred was born???
Was he an immigrant ???

In 1920 there are 4 men named Alfred Ziegler scattered across the country.

You have not stated his parents names.
WHERE was Alfred born???

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 4:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, the first one is correct, but the second is Alfred's father. That's all I've found. What's making me nuts is what happened to Alfred between 1920 and 1930?

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 4:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Alfred was born in Brooklyn, Kings Cty. He's in the 1920 census (7 yrs old) but NOT in the 1930 census (17 yrs old). My guess is this is the time period in which he was arrested but I can't find out anything to confirm this.

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 7:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
The 1930 Census that another poster listed for you IS the same family as the 1920 Census. What the poster was saying is Alfred is listed as "William A" on the 1930 Census. His name may have been William Alfred or Alfred William. Names are interchanged frequently.

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 7:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
This might be his death info:


Name: William A. Ziegler
SSN: 192-10-8043
Born: 15 Aug 1913
Died: 2 Feb 1992
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 7:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
It sounds as if you know alot about him (despite the lack of records.)

If you post as many details as you can (death info, spouse, children, occupation, etc. etc.) then these might lead to more suggestions on where/how to look.

Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 19 Apr 2012 11:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Is this possibly the right Alfred?
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Re: How is it possible....

Posted: 20 Apr 2012 11:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Close, but Alfred was under age so this does not apply.
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