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Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 9:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Nov 2012 6:52PM GMT
Surnames: McClurg
Looking for info please on Alexander (merchant seaman)who married Mary McClurg and his sister Dina who also married (to who ??) in Belfast, both originally from Stavanger, Norway.

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 3:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Nov 2012 6:52PM GMT
Possible marriage:

Alexander Gobralson or Gabralson married Mary McClurg Belfast Jul – Sept 1887 Volume 1, page 313.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dunc...

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 11 Nov 2012 2:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
In 1901 census he is still a sailor, in 1907 his name has changed to A Gabrielson living in Ritchie Street, occupation Labourer see the website Lenonwylie. If I find more I'll be back

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 11 Nov 2012 3:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
There is an A Gabrielson living in 1907 in ritchie street occupation labourer
see Lennonwylie 1907. In 1911 he’s moved house again its now 39 in Queen Street, North (Duncairn, Antrim), he’s a sailor again and Mary is in the household, they also have a relative in the house, a nephew, one Joseph Donnelly
There are no Gabrielson in the 1918 street directory, see http://www.lennonwylie.co.ukthere are at least 3 Jo’ Donnelly in the 1918 at other addrresses. Queen Street North still exist, but there is now “New North Queen Street.
good luck

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 11 Nov 2012 8:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Nov 2012 8:09PM GMT
marriages of alexander & dinah plus deaths of alexander and mary's babies.

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 30 May 1894
Groom Name albert CALLOW
Bride Name dinah GABRIELSIN
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
fathers. giles callow & gabriel gabrielsin.


Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 5 Sep 1887
Groom Name alexander GABRALSON
Bride Name mary MCCLURG
Church Mariners Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim


Record details
Name of deceased Child Of Alexr Saml & Mary Gabrielsen
Last place of residence 8 Cultra Street
Age 1 Hour
Sex
Date of death 24 April 1901
Date of burial 25 April 1901
Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground
Grave section and number
Burial Type Earth Burial

Record details
Name of deceased Nathl Mcclury Gabrielsen
Last place of residence 8 Cultra St
Age 11 Mos
Sex
Date of death 19 April 1901
Date of burial 20 April 1901
Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground
Grave section and number
Burial Type Earth Burial

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 18 Nov 2012 10:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Apologies delayed response - been out of e-mail contact last week.

Thanks for researching this. Alexander jumped ship in Surabaya, Indonesia in 1881 when he was 18. I've no idea how he ended up in Belfast in 1887. He was still there living at 37 Marine Street in 1926, when he was awarded the UK Merchant Marine Medal for service in WW1. I have record of some vessels he sailed on out of Belfast up to 1928.

Is there any record of when he died ??

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 18 Nov 2012 10:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Apologies for delayed response - out of e-mail contact last week.

Thanks for researching this. Is there any record of children for Albert & Dina ?? Or of his death ?? In the 1900 census for Norway, Dina is back in Stavanger, occupation given as seamstress, and said to be living on "country's welfare, Ireland". Moreover she is using the surname "Hadland", the farm on which her father Gabriel Gundersen Hadland was born.

I didn't know Alexander had a middle name Samuel. Its not on his baptism record - not a common Norwegian name.

Familysearch has other children for Alexander & Mary, including Sigvart - the name of his younger brother who married my grandmother and thus convinces me this is the right match. I found baptism records for Nathaniel & Sigvart. From 1911 census, it looks like only Jinnater/Janet and Mary survived into adulthood. Are you able to find any further details of them, including any death record for Alexander or Mary.

Regards

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 20 Nov 2012 8:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Summarising everybodys information and adding in anything else

Known history of the name in Norway. There are plenty of records in familysearch for Norway. There are different spellings in Norway. You know they came from Stavanger Norway. The father is Gabriel Gabrielsen/sin/son. More information should be available on him. Did he have other sons? Yes you say he had a younger brother Sigvart. Alex’ names one of his children after him.
On a visit home or permanent return to Norway, you know Alex’s sister Dina{h} in 1900, stays with her father Gabriel Gundersen Hadland or did you mean Gabriel Gundersen of Hadland. I am confused is she a Gunderson or Gabrielsen/sin/son is that one of his first names? Although married to Albert Callow at Saint Annes Church of Ireland 30 May 1894 she changes her name to Hadland. If she had any children, they would be born between 1894 and 1900, did she have any? I didnt find any. I also found no further information on Albert Callow which is a scarce name in Ireland. I did find on freebmds.org a Births Sep-Dec 1873 for an Albert Charles Callow Birkenhead 8a 439, who died Dec 1927 in Birkenhead. Albert father was cited as Giles Callow. None found in Ireland, three found in SW England in free BMD’s website

Known history of the name in Great Britain only.
Gabrielson, a sailor or Merchant Marine dies at sea:22 Oct 1880. From Great Britain Deaths and Burials, 1778-1988. If this was a close relative like big brother or baby brother, that might be enough for him to jump ship. Anyway that ship must have been either within British waters or was a British ship.

Known history of the name in Ireland, it’s very rare. There is Alexander, his sister Dina living somewhere, also in Ireland in 1911census is an entry for ME Gabrielson b in Brick 1849, who is apparently Mrs ME Babington it’s a curious mistake or correction by the enumerator. “Gabrielson M E Glanmire Road Middle Cork No. 3 Urban Cork 62 F Cliflore, Brick Church of Ireland Read and write”

Spellings in Ireland Gabrailson Gabralson Gabrielsen/sin/son Gobralson

Alexander Gabrielsen b abt 1863 Norway, jumped ship in Surabaya, Indonesia in 1881, I tried street directories on Lennonwylie and PRONI Was living at 56 Marine Street in 1895 occupation Seaman and as Alex. In 1907 he’s labourer: other details include the 1911 census 37 in 1901 Male Head of Family Husband Church of England. He lives in between at Cultra Street, Ritchie Street, Queen Street North You have during WW1 he serves in British merchant Service and receives medal. He is back to Marine Street in 1926, You have the records of some vessels he sailed on out of Belfast up to 1928. His death or burial is not found yet. He marries
Mary McClurg Marriage 5 Sep 1887. Mariners church. her father is William McClurg There are possible births for her with William as father in Co Antrim on UHF website ie 1865,1868,1869. This might be her father in 1880 from lennonwylie.co.uk
McClurg, Wm., 11 Ivanhoe Street. More about Mary, she is 34 in 1911 Female Wife Roman Catholic In 1911 she has had 9 children, with two living, and married 24 years Her death or burial is not found yet. A relative is Joseph Donnelly. Who is he
Children possible
1. Otto Alexander Gabrailson birth:1891 death: Jan - Mar 1892 Belfast. source Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958 No proof this is family
2. Genttea{ Janet] Gabrielsen b abt 1892 9 in 1901 Female Daughter Roman Catholic . You know this is Janet living after 1911 but with no trace.
3. Mary Gabrielson 1893 father ALEXANDER Antrim from UHF and census living after 1911 but with no trace.
4. Gabrielson unknown no record found Added in here as speculation as she had 9 children, two alive in 1911
5. Alexander Gabrielson birth: 1898 death: Oct - Dec 1898 Belfast from Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958 and also from UHF
6. Nathaniel McClury Gabrielsen b 1900, was 10 months old in 1901 census Male Son Roman Catholic died Age 11 Months Date of death 19 April 1901 Date of burial 20 April 1901 Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground One report says he had a second first name McClury {which I thought at first would be McCleery by sound, but I think it is McClurg, a typo etc
7. Unnamed Gabrielsen infant Age 1 Hour Date of death 24 April 1901 Date of burial 25 April 1901 Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground
8. Sigvart Gabrielsen Sigvart b 1905 died Jan - Mar 1910 Belfast source familysearch
9 Unknown Gabrielsen
so based on 1911 census as she records 9 children born, 2 alive. Of the seven who have died, two are unknown, and one was unnamed. This is a tragic story.

Extra sources to previously contributed information
Deaths and burials
http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/search.asp only contains the very young Gabrielsen deaths in 1901. On other names there are two Callow females , but not any Albert
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?freesearch Nothing found
Births and marriages
UHF http://www.ancestryireland.com/ has Dinahs marriage and two births ie
GABRIELSON MARY 1893 ALEXANDER Antrim
GABRIELSON ALEXANDER 1898 ALEXANDER Antrim

Searching for the connection to the Nephew Joseph Donnelly, the 1918 street directory via lennonwylie gives
Donnelly, Joseph, dealer, 16, 18 Gardiner Street
Donnelly, Joseph, 235 Mountpottinger Road
Donnelly, Jos., publican, 189 Old Lodge Road
Donnelly, Jos., city missionary, 142 Ainsworth Avenue
Donnelly, J., hair dresser, 139 Divis Street
Donnelly, J., polisher, 8 Derby Street
Donnelly, J. J., J.P., contractor & funeral undertaker, 124, 126 Cullingtree Road
Donnelly, J. T., R.I.C., 54 Southport Street
The nephew presumably is from the McClurg side, so perhaps is the maiden name of Marys mother.
So sorry nothing else found. sorry I have lost paragraphing
Good luck onwards JimG

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 20 Nov 2012 4:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Jim, thanks so much for this. I'm away from home again just now, but I'll link this back to what I have when I get back to London at the weekend.

Meantime, since you kindly looked into all this, you might like to look up the Norwegian Heritage Community site on the internet. You need to register but its free. Action the search for Sigvart Gabrielsen, Alexander's brother. You will see other siblings too. Sigvart and Dina were the children of Gabriel Gundersen's second marriage, and lost their mother (and father ??)in infancy. Sigvart became a mariner too, and like Alexander jumped ship (in his case Mobile, USA - don't know how he got back to S Wales)and received the same medal as Alexander for service in WW1.

Sigvart's second marriage was to my grandmother, Agnes Andrine Arnesen, daughter of a Norwegian father and Swedish mother, and born in Newport S Wales.

REgards, and thanks for your help

Re: Alexander Gabrielsen/son/sin - Norwegian merchant seaman married Mary McClurg, Belfast

Posted: 22 Nov 2012 10:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
I too, am having to stop my work on genealogy for awhile, so although interested I must back out now. I forgot to mention in the hunt for burials and deaths of Alexander and Mary that two resources remain probably unchecked fully . First is Ireland or Northern Ireland’s General Register Office. Secondly is very large catholic cemetery known as Milltown. Milltown cemetery has records as does the pro cathedral St Peters. Both subjects have contributions upon in the free Belfast Forum genealogical section. You might be guided onwards. Because the surname is so rare it might be more obtainable than many other names. If Mary outlived Alexander she might well have arranged a catholic service or burial etc for him and vice versa, etc. So keep going JimG
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