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Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 30 Jul 2001 9:09PM GMT
Edited: 1 Jun 2002 10:35AM GMT
Surnames: Underwood, Mitchel, Mitchell, Veal, Veals
Census Place: District 20, Monroe, Tennessee
Source: FHL Film 1255272 National Archives Film T9-1272 Page 156B
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Thomas VEAL Self M M W 23 TN
Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN
Saphrona VEAL Wife F M W 25 NC [NOTE: Lucinda's Sister]
Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA
James N. VEAL Son M S W 7 TN
Fa: TN Mo: NC
Lucy A. VEAL Dau F S W 4 TN
Fa: TN Mo: NC
Wm. R. VEAL Son M S W 1 TN
Fa: TN Mo: NC

This is a neighbor of the young Thomas (3 doors over)
Census Place: District 20, Monroe, Tennessee
Source: FHL Film 1255272 National Archives Film T9-1272 Page 157D
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
S. UNDERWOOD Self M M W 47 NC ("Seaborn", brother)
Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
Caroline UNDERWOOD Wife F M W 39 TN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA
Francis UNDERWOOD Son M S W 17 NC
Occ: Works On Farm Fa: NC Mo: TN
Nancy L. UNDERWOOD Dau F S W 10 TN
Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: TN
Sarah E. UNDERWOOD Dau F S W 6 TN
Fa: NC Mo: TN
Elvira UNDERWOOD Dau F S W 4 TN
Fa: NC Mo: TN
Alice UNDERWOOD Dau F S W 2 TN
Fa: NC Mo: TN
Martha UNDERWOOD Dau F S W 6M TN
Fa: NC Mo: TN

Then 2 doors over from the Underwoods.

Census Place: District 20, Monroe, Tennessee
Source: FHL Film 1255272 National Archives Film T9-1272 Page 157D
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Larkin MITCHELL Self M M W 36 NC
Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
Lucinda MITCHELL Wife F M W 40 GA
Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA
Henry MITCHELL Son M S W 9 TN
Fa: NC Mo: GA
Wm. MITCHELL Son M S W 6 TN
Fa: NC Mo: GA
Florence MITCHELL Dau F S W 3 TN (dau of Lucinda U.)
Fa: NC Mo: GA
Lizzie MITCHELL Dau F S W 1 TN
Fa: NC Mo: GA

another near neighbor

Census Place: District 20, Monroe, Tennessee
Source: FHL Film 1255272 National Archives Film T9-1272 Page 158A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Wm. M. MITCHELL Self M M W 70 NC
Occ: Chair Maker Fa: NC Mo: NC
Martha E. MITCHELL Wife F M W 24 TN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN
Mary F. MITCHELL Dau F S W 1 TN
Fa: NC Mo: TN

******************************* Cross Reference:****************
Monroe
Dist. 20 #16 Veal, Thomas 23 TTT; Saphrona 25 NC Ga Ga; James N. 7 Tn; Lucy A. 4 Tn; Wm. R. 1 Tn

Thomas P. Veal md. Sophornia Underwood 1/16/1872.
The 1880 shows them after their marriage. There is no 1890. By 1900 James Nathan is md. with his only family

Hardshell Cem.;
Nath James Veal 3/22/1873-12/12/1958
Florence Jane Veal 9/29/1876-1/4/1959

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 26 Oct 2001 6:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 May 2002 5:02AM GMT
Surnames: Underwood Mitchel veal malone watts Ramey morrow Smith
Hi Elaine Iam reba miller Mccain Iam the grandaughter of Daisy lodine Underwood malone my greatgrandfater was seburn underwood grandmother carline veal my g gGrandfather was joel underwood and lucinda laura lovelas they lived in Cherokee co n.c part of the time and fanning co Ga they moved to monroe co around 1860 Daiseymarried marcelles malone 15 april 1907 monroe co tenn marcell and daisymoved to Athens tennChildern of marcell and daisy followa William Rankin Malone born 1 march 1907 monroe co tenn died 7 feb 1981 Harriman roan co tenn married may hester 2 july 1927 may was born 5 sept 1908 (2 troy Erskin malone born 20 oct died 29 nov 1908 (3 Ernest Franklin Malone born 10 oct 1909 died 23 oct 1912 monroe co tenn my mother no (4) Bertha Ree Malonr born 26 jan 1912 mcminn co tenn died 29 march 1989 madera Calif she married my father Fayttee H. Robinson of meigs co tenn married 1944 (5) ada Merl Malone born1 April 1915 mcminn co tenn died 11 nov 2000 mcminn co tenn she married Charlie harris born 4june 1907 died 2 oct 1975 (6 Myrtle Irene Malone born 24 may 1916 mcminn co tenn died 11 feb 1974 Hemet calif married Chester Melton married 3 sept 1938 (7) hobert malone born 2 may 1918 mcminn co tenn died 20 april 1935 mcminn co tenn(8) cicil argana malone born 6 july 1920 mcminn co tenn married clemmer G Coleman Still alive (9) Raymond Joseph Malone born 27 april 1922 mcminn co tenn died 29 may 1990 Blout co tenn no (10) Ivy lavada Malone born 27 june 1924 mcminn co tenn died 27 sept 1993 athens (11) Paskel lee malone born 2 april 1927 died 8 july 1999 athens married bessie neely 23 aug 1954 please get in touch with me my email is rebamccain@aol.com

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 29 May 2002 9:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
My great grandmother was Dolly Ann Self. She married John Stewart. She was born in 1874. I think in Monroe Co Tn. I think that her father may have been Marion Self. Her stepmother was Nancy Underwood. I know that she had two half sisters Lillie and Clara. Clara married a Plaster and had a son named Earl.

I have talked with Barry Self and he did not know about Dolly, but he did have a group sheet from you that had information about Clara and her sister Lillie.

Do you have any knowledge of Dollie or her father Marion Self?

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 20 Jun 2002 9:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Jun 2002 7:36AM GMT
Looking for Reba McCain who may have additional information for my Underwood family connections.

thanks

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 18 Nov 2003 6:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Aug 2004 4:16AM GMT
Surnames: Brazier, Lovless, Crawford, Hale, Brown, Gotcher
I am seeking information on Lucinda's brother Seaborn and his namesake whom I believe was my ggg grandfather, Seaborn Lovless. If his mother was Elizabeth Lovless, sister to James Lovless I would also like to see if you have any information on this line.

I have the roll applications for Seaborn and Lucinda if you would like them in MS Word format - please let me know.

Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, Jimmie Ryan
GGGrandson of Seaborn Lovless

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 12 Dec 2003 9:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Jan 2004 6:59PM GMT
Surnames: Malone Underwood loveless
Hi Jimmy
we are cousins my grandfather was seaborn underwood
and daisy lodine underwood who married in monroe Tennessee and moved to athens mcminnco tennhave munch informationlove to hear from youmy email is serpadncr@aol.com

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Margaret Underwood (View posts)
Posted: 13 Dec 2003 12:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Reba.
During what time frame was Seaborn Underwood in McMinn Co.? Do you know if he was related to other Underwoods in McMinn and if so, which ones? I am particularly interested in a William Underwood who was born @1805 in NC and was in McMinn Co. about 1830-1850.

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 13 Dec 2003 11:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Jan 2004 6:59PM GMT
Surnames: Malone Underwood veal Loveless
Hello Margaret
Joel Underwood and wife Lucinda were in Monroe co Tennesse in 1870 with their childern and Seaborn underwood married Amy carolin Veal in monroe co 11 feb 1862 in monroe
co Tennessee Yes there were other underwoods John underwood which i will look up in my records for you these underwoods also lived at times in union co Ga and this is where john underwood father lived and Cheroke co North Carolina,seaborn Underwood is mymothers mother father and
Daisy lodine underwood is seaborn and amy caroline daughter
which married my grandfather marcel malone
please send your email address mine is serpadncr@aol.com
hope this helps

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 14 Dec 2003 7:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Dec 2006 11:32PM GMT
Hi, Reba and Margaret--

Please let me join this discussion. I am a third cousin of Jimmie Ryan. We both descend from Seaborn Loveless, the brother of the Lucinda Loveless who married Joel Underwood. We think Joel and Lucinda's first son may have been named for his uncle Seaborn Loveless, but we're not sure. There is a second Seaborn Underwood who lived about this time and I am not sure how he fits into the picture.

I have two marriages for Seaborn Underwood, the first to the Caroline Veal mentioned here, and later to Nancy Self (date of marriage unknown). I don't have any children for Nancy, but I have the following children for Seaborn and Caroline (or Amy Caroline, as Reba reports her name): Francis, b. 1863; Nancy b. 1870; Sarah b. 1874; Elvira b. 1876; Alice b. 1878; Martha b. 1880. I do not know about a daughter named Daisy. Can you tell me her birthdate? Do you know of any other children i this generation?

One clarification: we recently saw the 1907 Cherokee claim applications filed by Seaborn Underwood and his siblings. Those papers make it clear that their grandparents on their mother's side were Samuel and Anna Loveless. From other information we believe Anna's maiden name was probably Byers.

Re: Lucinda Underwood, dau of Joel U. son of Wedgbar U.

Posted: 19 Dec 2003 4:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Jan 2004 6:59PM GMT
Hi David
Joel Underwood married Lucinda laura Loveless according to the death certof Lucinda Mitchell no 537 in monroe cp tenn in 1921 lucinda mitchell was joels daughter i have mitchel info contact me at serpadncr@aol.com
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