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Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 6 Jun 2007 12:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)
I have a picture from a Syracuse newspaper dated September 10, 1917. I can only see part of the newspaper name - "on and Advertiser".

I remember my mother saying that the picture was of some of her Syracuse cousins. She had relatives by the name of Koeberlein (Koberline) living in Syracuse. The headline above the picture says "Geisler Family, Six Members of Which Were Killed in Automobile Accident". The names of the people in the picture are Mrs. George Heidt (killed); Mrs. Anthony Specksgoor; Louis Geisler; Sister Amaden; Teresa Geisler (killed); Joseph Geisler (killed); Vera Geisler; Edmond Geisler (killed); Joseph Geisler, Jr. (died in hospital); Lillian Geisler; and Mrs. Joseph Geisler (killed).

I would like to find out more about this family, and how they were related to my mother's family in Rochester. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has any knowledge of these people. Thanks. Noreen Rose

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 6 Jun 2007 2:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Not sure if this is any help but thought I'd pass it along.
1910 Rochester, Monroe Co. NY
Geisler, Joseph, head, 49
Geisler, Emilia, wife, 45*
Geisler, Louis, son, 2
Geisler, Florence, daughter, 17
Geisler, Amelia, daughter, 15
Geisler, Thresa, daughter, 12
Geisler, ?**, son, 9
Geisler, ?**, son, 6
Geisler, Lillian, daughter, 4
Geisler, Veronica, daughter, 1 year 6 months
*Emilia - spelling could be incorrect but that's what is looks like
** ?** age 9 - census lists name as Rose L but it also lists it as "son" and it looks more like maybe Joseph
** ?** age 6 - lists name as Emma but it also lists it as "son" and it does start with an E (maybe Edmond)
Also Vera could be nickname for Veronica

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 7 Jun 2007 2:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
fun for u - go to www.fultonhistory.com ; free, but accepts contributions. find this article in the Rochester Democrat, monday sept 10. 1917. they were hit by the train
"Joseph Geisler, of No. 229 remington
street, was operating the automobile and
his wife, Amelia, was in the front seat
with him. Mrs. Florence Heidt, a
daughter, was in the rear seat, with Edmond
Geisler, a younger brother, on her
lap. Beside her sat Teresa and Joseph
Geisler, Jr., two other children."etc some of the print is difficult to read, but they all lived in rochester, and address and relationships are described. there is a great deal more on all of these, and your mothers families at this site. search creatively and thoroughly, and follow all leads. optical search engine confused by blurry, smeared, wrinkled, etc., old newsprint.u will find aricles both before and after this incident., back to the 1890's. also, from the oswego paper, sept 1917 -Rochester, Sept. 10.—Five persons
were killed and one probably fatally j
injured yesterday when an automobile
was struck by a fast train on the
Lehigh Valley Railroad at Haslit
crossing, one mile west of the village
of Rush. .
The dead are: Mr. and Mrs. Joseph
Geisler, and their children, Edwin,
13; Theresa, 18, and Mrs. George
Heidt, 25.
Joseph Geisler, Jr., 16, is in the
hospital with a fractured skull.
july 14 1901-rochester paper-this one is helpful-Mrs. Rosina Wirth, wife of Sebastian
Wirth, died yesterday morning at the family
residence. No. 131 Clifford street, sged
67 years. The deceased is survival by
three sons, Louis, August and Rev. Dr.
Wirth, of St. Bernard's Seminar^, and
three daughters, Mrs. Edmund Stockschlater,
Mrs. Joseph Geisler and Mrs. Joseph
Schwenzer.articles on specksgoor, incld 1917 notice that the funeral for all of the geisler dead to be held at home of daughter mrs anthony specksgoor. st michaels church mentioned-there u shold be able to find bapt records and marriage records-a wealth of info abt who is related to who.

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 8 Jun 2007 12:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
This certainly is the family I was inquiring about. I obviously was mistaken, thinking that they lived in Syracuse. Now I have to figure out if they are any relation to my mother. Thanks for looking them up for me. Noreen Rose

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 8 Jun 2007 12:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for looking up this family. It certainly is the family I was inquiring about, though I didn't realize that they lived in Rochester. I know that I am going to be spending some time on the website you mentioned, trying to figure out how they relate to my mother's family. Noreen Rose

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 8 Jun 2007 5:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Could you please tell me how you found the article on Mrs. Rosina Wirth in the Rochester paper. I found the other articles you mentioned, but was unable to find this one. Thanks. Noreen Rose

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 8 Jun 2007 6:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
joseph w/2 geisler boolean
Rochester NY Democrat Chronicle 1901 - 3207.pdf
...s Seminar^, and three daughters, Mrs. Edmund Stock- schlater, Mrs. Joseph Geisler and Mrs. Jo- seph Schwenzer. Helen C, wife of A. ...
search toroughly, even if immediate connection not apparent. keep in mind, may be more than 1 joseph geisler rochester area

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 11 Aug 2007 1:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Oh my.....I am the great granddaughter of Florence Geisler Heidt who died in the car/train crash. How are you related ?
Marie Carole

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 12 Aug 2007 12:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Koeberlein, Schmahlholz
I really don't know if I am related to them. We found the picture (which I have since discovered was in the Rochester Union and Advertiser, not in a Syracuse paper, like I previously thought), in some of my mother's papers, and I thought that I had heard that they were cousins of hers. Now I am beginning to wonder if they were just neighbors. My mother lived on Clinton Avenue, near Borchard, and attended St. Michael's Church.

My mother's name was Estelle Koeberlein (Koberline). Her father was Louis, who came over from Heustreu, Bavaria around 1873 with his parents who settled in Syracuse, and he came to Rochester, where he married Mary Schmahlholz.

I have looked at their families, and haven't found any of the names that were listed in the accident.

Do you live in Rochester. Do any of my family's names sound familiar. Noreen

Re: Geisler, Heidt, Specksgoor, Koeberlein (Koberline)

Posted: 12 Aug 2007 4:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Noreen - I do live in Rochester, but those names don't sound familiar to me. I will ask my aunt if she recognizes them. I would love a copy of whatever you have regarding the accident. Would you be able to make a copy? I would be more than happy to pay you for them. I have a few very torn pages and have not been able to find which newspaper it came from. The Rochester paper had articles, but not the ones with the photos I'm trying to reproduce. St Michael's Church was one of my family's churches - my grandparents were married there, but the Geislers belonged to St Cecelia's when they died.

Thanks very much!
Marie
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