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ROPER NC Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grants

ROPER NC Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grants

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 2:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Roper
The book Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grants (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1998), by Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck lists five Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grants to North Carolina ROPERs serving in the Revolution for North Carolina. These were:

James ROPER, private, N.C., 274 acres to heirs, 17 Sep 1785
James ROPER, private, N.C., 640 acres, 06 Sep 1821
Patrick ROPER, private, N.C., 274 acres, 02 Feb 1786
Richard ROPER, private, N.C., 228 acres, 15 Jul 1785
Stephen ROPER, Sergeant, N.C., 1000 acres to heirs, 07 Jan 1786

A grant of 640 acres to a private or 1,000 acres to a Sergeant would have required eighty four (84) months of service to the North Carolina Continental Line. Privates with two years of service were eligible for 225 acres and those with three wears of service were eligible for 274 acres. ALL of these Bounty Land grants would ahve been for land in Tennessee.

Thus, implicitly, the first James ROPER must have served three years and been already dead by 17 Sep 1785.

The second James ROPER seems to have served a full four years, but did not obtain his grant until 06 Sep 1821.

Patrick ROPER seems to have served for three years.

Richard ROPER seems likely to have served for about two years.

Stephen ROPER seems to have served four years and was a Non-Commissioned Officer.

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JAMES ROPER
The James ROPER shown to have died in Anson County in 1781 would seem to be the single best candidate to be the first James ROPER. His Will identifies sons William and Green. Green ROPER settled in Tennessee.

Although the date of death for James ROPER (b abt 1730) who married Mary PETERSON is shown to be Oct 1786, this James ROPER is another possible candidate to be the first James ROPER.

But the warrant or parcel itself seems to have been ASSIGNED as shown in this abstract:

NC Land Grants in TN 1778-1791: p.98: p.92:
William Wykoff & Lardner Clark, 274 acres 1787 on the waters of North Cross Creek; assigned by James Roper, Pvt.
See: http://www.roperld.com/rnc1617.htm

Has anyone bothered to look at the underlying records? Even if the land was assigned, the underlying application may contian information about wartime service and possibly valuable genealogical information.

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We also still have another 640 acre tract and no doubt some application for that parcel.

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Dave ROPER's North Carolina ROPER page also shows this abstract information for another James ROPER:

Roster of Rev. Soldiers of GA: p.106: James Roper b 1741 Northampton Co., NC d 1800 Johnston Co., NC m Alice d aft 1800. He was a Rev. soldier of NC, served as priv. in Capt. Brinkley's Co., 7 Apr 1777 for 3 yr. term; in Capt. Yarbrough's Co. 1780. Had land allotted him for his services 14 Oct 1783. His widow drew a Pension for his services. Children (not in order of birth) Elijah; Benjamin; Elisha; Isaac; John; James; Betsey (or Elizabeth); Rebecca m Johnston Co. NC 1778 Faddy Whittington b NC 12 Feb 1752 d Oct 1855 Pike Co., GA. Faddy was a Rev. War soldier.
p.117: Faddy Whittington b NC 12 Feb 1752 d Pike Co., GA 1855 m Johnston Co., NC 1780 Rebecca Roper b NC 1760 d Johnston Co., NC 1803 d/o James Roper, Rev. War soldier of NC, & Alice. Faddy is buried on the family plantation in the Seagraves Cem. near Griffin,GA. He was a Rev. War soldier of NC. ...He removed to GA after his wife's death. (Received) pension...3 May 1832 while residing in Pike Co., GA. ...bounty land...7 Apr 1855...granted, 100 acres...In 1790 census, he was living in the Newburn District with a son and two daughters. He drew land in 1820 Lottery of GA, a resident then of Jasper Co., GA. Child: Thaddeus Whittington b Jan 1798 Johnston Co., NC d 1847 Pike Co., GA m AL 2 Dec 1824 Sarah Burt. (She m2 and moved to South GA.) Children of Thaddeus and Sarah: Francis b 1825 m Lucy de Loach; Ann m Plez Skinner; Elizabeth m McHaffey; Howard Horton m Emily Lake Waters
See: http://www.roperld.com/rnc1617.htm

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PATRICK ROPER
I do not recall ever seeing any other information concerning an early Patrick ROPER. Is anyone familiar with this Revolutionary War Veteran?

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RICHARD ROPER
There was a Richard ROPER enumerated in Lancaster, Garrard County, Kentucky, in the 1810 Census enumeration. This is also the place that Revolutionary War Veteran David ROPER (b Oct 1755) first settled. (Some ROSSER researchers think that this is a ROSSER rather than ROPER record.) This Richard ROPER is shown to be over age 45 (b bef 1766).

There is also a yonger Richard ROPER in Hanover, VA, in the 1820 enumeration.

Daniel Calhoun ROPER thought that he was descended from a Richard ROPER. But he seems to have been so quick to seek a link to extant ROPERs settled in New Kent, VA, that perhaps a REAL Richard ROPER who had actually served in the War was overlooked. With a grant of 228 acres, he certainly might have settled in Tennessee.

Has anyone investigated this Richard ROPER or does everyone find it more convent and agreeable to base their genealogies on completely fictional characters, like the fictional Richard Frederick ROPER who it is claimed fought in the Revolution at ninety years of age, despite the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that such a person ever existed? I suppose that it is less work to just MAKE UP your family history and looking into actual facts might further disturb the whimsical accounts of fantasy upon which so many ROPER lineages seem to be constructed.

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STEPHEN ROPER
Stephen ROPER's allocation was a fairly big chunk of land in Tennessee. It seems that at least a portion of it was assigned:

NC Land Grants in TN 1778-1791: p.98: p.92:
Patsy Robertson 640 acres 1788 Davidson - on the waters of Caney fork; assigned by heir of Stephen Roper, Sgt.
See: http://www.roperld.com/rnc1617.htm

Has anyone bothered to look at the underlying record?

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LOOKING AT THE UNDERLYING RECORDS

The REASON that the various indices are published is NOT simply to identify some name on the list. These are created as FINDING AIDS to the underlying records. It is the underlying records that contain usually the wealth of actual genealogical information.

Here is the Collection at the North Carolina Archives which probably contains the information on these NC Revolutionary War Veterans.

Title : Land Office, State Land Office, Western Lands (Military District): Revolutionary Military Papers
Years: 1767-1855
Creator: Office of Secretary of State
Languages:
Call Number: SS 760 - SS 791
Location: 3B.533 ( Archive Stacks)
MARS Id: 12.81 (Series)
Other Ids:
Physical Description:
Quantity: 32 Fibredex box(es)
Other Copies: 1 Item(s) Call No.: S.108.261 - S.108.262 (2 REEL) Location: MFR

See also:
Title : Correspondence Concerning Revolutionary War Veterans and Pensioners
Years: 1818-1859
Creator: Office of Secretary of State
Languages:
Call Number: SS 25.1 - SS 25.3
Location: 3B.532 ( Archive Stacks)
MARS Id: 12.35 (Series)
Other Ids:
Physical Description:
Quantity: 3 Manuscript box(es)

IF YOU ARE MISSING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FAMILY HISTORY, PERHAPS IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE GIVEN UP BEFORE EVER GETTING THE INQUIRY UNDERWAY! MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE PRIMARY RECORDS INSTEAD OF COPYING UNSOURCED INFORMATION FROM SOME OTHER FOOL'S POSTED FICTIONAL FAMILY HISTORY!

It seems to me that if someone is trying to connect their ancestors transiting the State of Tennessee back to North Carolina one of the very first things to do would be to check the Land Bounty records to see WHAT PARCELS were actually granted and TO WHOM and then so see WHO SUBSEQUENTLY OCCUPIED these parcels. I am totally baffled as to WHY everyone seems to doubtful about the early ROPER family connecitons when NO ONE seems to be interested in actually looking up the underlying primary records.

Richard ROPER Shown in the Publication Above May Be Richard ROSSER

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 5:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Roper, Rosser
There is a Revolutionary War Pension Application for Richard ROSSER, who enlisted in Farquier County, VA, and whose pension application was made while residing at Garrard, Kentucky. It seems likely that the Richard ROPER shown in the post above may very well actually be Richard ROSSER.

The Images of Richard ROSSER's Pension application are available online through Ancestry.com.

Source:

Ancestry.com. Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files (NARA microfilm publication M804, 2,670 rolls). Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15. National Archives, Washington, D.C. (32 pages)
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