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Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 30 Oct 2008 9:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Oct 2008 3:11PM GMT
hi - does anyone know if "MINOR" simply means less than "full" age (21) or does it mean even younger (possibly younger than the minimum legal age to get married)?
The marriage took place in 1852.
Any help much appreciated!
thanks
Rachel

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 31 Oct 2008 10:34PM GMT
Classification: Lookup
Hello

even up to 1927 (ish) the legal age of marriage was actually just 14

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 5 Nov 2008 3:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello I think in this case, in 1952, in England, a minor was a person under the age of 18. Te Age of Majority was 21 at that time, therefore a person under the age of 21 in 1952 required the consent of parents before they could marry. However, they could legally be married from the age of 16, (and therefore a minor)but parents consent was required.
In Scotland one could also be legally married at age 16 and a minor, and no consent was required from parents, and that is why there were elopements to Gretna Green.
If it says "minor" on your 1952 marriage certificate, it means that the person was 16years or above, but younger than 18 years old.
Trust this helps.
regards WA

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 5 Nov 2008 10:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Has WA misread the date?

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 6 Nov 2008 12:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
I beg your pardon , indeed I did! Sorry ! I do have an honest excuse, I truly am in fact registered blind, but errors like this don't often happen.
However I can confirm the other reply that someone left, of legal marriage being fourteen up until around 1930 but parental permission was required, as being under 18 they were a minor.

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 6 Nov 2008 7:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Many thanks everyone for your replies, it's most appreciated.

So it looks like it was over the age of 14, the minimum legal age (with parental consent) but under the age of 18, below which was classed as a minor.

That's brilliant and really helps me to put context to the story and also narrow down my search for birth and death records.

Thanks again,

Rachel :oD

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 7 Nov 2008 12:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
No, I'm afraid this is incorrect. A "minor" on an English marriage certificate of 1852 was someone who admitted to being under the age of 21. Please go here for an explanation

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/marriages.htm#COL3

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 7 Nov 2008 12:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Forgive me if I am in error again , but I think maybe you are possibly misreading what it actually says? which is...
Quote="The age at which a person could marry and at which they would require consent has changed since 1837. Then marriage could be at 12 for a girl and 14 for a boy, but consent of parent(s) was required for both up to the age of 21. In 1926 the age of marriage for both parties was raised to 16 but consent for both was still required until 21. Now, the age at which people can marry is still 16 but the age for consent has been lowered to 18."
So it is clear that legal marriage could take place at age 14 with parents consent only (I didn't know a girl could be married at 12 with parents consent, nor did I know that it was actually earlier than 1930 when the law changed to 16) If you look into this further you will see that any person under the age of 18 was considered and regarded as a "minor", certainly from 1852, if not some time before. I was married at age 18 in 1965 the age of consent was then 21 and I needed my parents consent to marry. We wanted to marry at 17, but that would have meant having the word "minor" on my marriage certificate, so we waited till I was 18. That is a fact, and that is what the word "minor " meant, to be under the age of 18years.
Definition from Miriam Webster dict.----under full legal age (usually either eighteen or twenty-one years)

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 7 Nov 2008 1:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry, I can't agree. For a marriage in England in 1852, the age of 18 was of no significance. A minor was under 21. This situation obtained from the date of Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 throughout the 19th century. The full text of the Act is here

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~framland/a...

Re: Meaning of "minor" on a UK 1852 marriage certificate?

Posted: 7 Nov 2008 2:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
I may be wrong,and willing to stand corrected, but nowhere in that link does it refer to a person under 21 as being "a minor".

Certainly, as I already stated previously, permission to marry from the age of 14 years (for a boy)to the age of majority being 21yrs, was required. (I too required my parents permission at 18 years in 1965.)

However, the words "a minor" were added to the registration, if the person was under 18 years. As far as I am aware,(and certainly this was an issue in my own case as the law had not changed regarding this)
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