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Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 26 Jan 2009 2:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Spillers, spiller, Spillar, Swift
I have hit a brick wall in my geneology search and perhaps someone can help connect a few dots or fill in a few blanks.
I am look for information about Willie Mack Spillers. He is the grandfather of Maggie, Sandra, Robert, Mack and Mert, Charles, Sammy Jack, Sue, and Kathy Spillers (parents Mack Theodore "Dago" and Lealer Mae Patton Spillers.) He had a twin sister who married Willie Gore in Columbia and they had several children: Billy Ray, Fred, James Lee, Robert and Myrtle.
Willie Mack Spillers was born Sept. 1876 and died at 99 years old.
He was married to Mollie Swift, --Nugent, and --Bamburg.
His father was born in Louisiana and his mother was born in Alabama... who were they?
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Also Sophronia (Sofrona/Froney) Swift
She was the mother of Mollie, Ollie, and Buzzie Swift. She was the mother in law of Willie Mack Spillers and raised his son Mack Theodore "Dago" after Mollie died in childbirth until she died. She was buried on the side of the old Filhiol Watkins Indian Mound just south of Fondale.
She was born March 1852 (or 1846-- the SSDI) in Louisiana. Her dad was born in Alabama and mother in Georgia. It is reported that she was a cherokee indian, which the only information I can find about the Cherokee coming to Louisiana is that the Cherokee with any money migrated west from Alabama before the government eradication began, so there are not many records. I do not know whether Swift is her married name or if she never married, as I cant find anything about her husband. Dago Spillers had said that his grandfather was a trapper.

Please email me at Scrapn4mymiracle@aol.com if you can add any clues to this family tree.
Thanks in advance!

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 9:03PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: SERITT, SPILLER
This looks like its reverse

1910 US CENSUS
Mack W Spiller]
Age in 1910: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's Name: Safronia
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Spouse's Name: Molly
Home in 1910: D Ward 4, Caldwell, Louisiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Molly Spiller]
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Spouse's Name: Mack W
Home in 1910: D Ward 4, Caldwell, Louisiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
+
Vilma Spiller]
Age in 1910: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
+
Hardy Spiller]
Age in 1910: 3/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Safronia Seritt
[Safronia Spiller]
Age in 1910: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Home in 1910: D Ward 4, Caldwell, Louisiana
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 9:07PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: SWIFF, SPILERS
1920
Name: Mack Spillers
Home in 1920: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 5 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Grandson
Father's Name: Ollie
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male

WITH
Name: Saprona Swiff
Home in 1920: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 68 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
[abt 1851]
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Georgia
Mother's Birth Place: Georgia
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
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Name: Ollie Swiff
Home in 1920: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 40 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's Name: Saprona
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 9:08PM GMT
Classification: Marriage
Surnames: SPILLERS, SWIFT
LOUISIANA MARRIAGES

Name: Mack Spillers
Spouse: Mollie Swift
Marriage Date: 25 Feb 1900
County: Ouac
State: LA

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 9:13PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: SPILLER, SWIFT
1900
Name: Safronia Swift
Home in 1900: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 48
Birth Date: Mar 1852
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Georgia
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 6
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Wards 8-9, Ouachita, Louisiana
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Name: Ollie Swift
Home in 1900: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 20
Birth Date: Dec 1879
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Son
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Name: Safronia
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Wards 8-9, Ouachita, Louisiana
+
Name: Buzzie Swift
Home in 1900: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 12
Birth Date: Sep 1887
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Name: Safronia
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Wards 8-9, Ouachita, Louisiana
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Name: Wm Spiller
Home in 1900: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 23
Birth Date: Jul 1876
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Son-in-law
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
Spouse's Name: Mollie
Marriage Year: 1900
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 0
Residence : Wards 8-9, Ouachita, Louisiana
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Name: Mollie Spiller
[Mollie Swift]
Home in 1900: Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, Louisiana
Age: 15
Birth Date: Dec 1884
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Name: Safronia
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother: number of living children: 0
Mother: How many children: 0
Spouse's Name: Wm
Marriage Year: 1900
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 0
Residence : Wards 8-9, Ouachita, Louisiana

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 9:50PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: conedran
If i take Safrona's year of birth as 1852 (she states different places of birth for parents) the only one that makes sense is

1860
Name: J O E Conedran
Age in 1860: 25
Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1860: Wallace Ridge, Catahoula, Louisiana
Gender: Male
Post Office: Trinity
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Name: Euphrasen Conedran
Age in 1860: 25
Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1860: Wallace Ridge, Catahoula, Louisiana
Gender: Female
+
Name: J Land Conedran
Age in 1860: 12
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Louisiana
+
Name: Jane Conedran
Age in 1860: 10
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Louisiana
+
Name: Safrona Conedran
Age in 1860: 8
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Louisiana
+
Name: D A Conedran
Age in 1860: 6
Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Louisiana
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Name: Ellen Conedran
Age in 1860: 4
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: Louisiana

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 3:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ollie is not Mack's father, but his uncle. Mack's mother was Mollie, Ollie's sister, who died giving birth to him. His father left him with Saphronia, his maternal grandmother. He lived with her until she died when he was about 11. Then he lived from farm to farm, wherever he could find a place to stay and work.

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 4:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Where did you find this information? What would lead you to link her to the Conedran family?
I am so lost and would love to know this is right.... and then it leaves the question of who is ___ Swift who fathered her children?
Hmmm...
I wish I were more knowledgeable about this process.
Thank you so much for your help.
Katherine

Re: Spillers Spiller Spillar Swift --so many questions, so few answers-- Hit the brick wall, Help!!!

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 5:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
All the dated one's are census (every 10 years)

The marriage shown is on that index (as shown)

You really need to work backwards - from as much info as you can gather - especially any certificates to guarantee you are on the right track i.e.

parents marrage
their parents & other children
their parents & other children
and so on backwards
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