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Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 24 Aug 2002 4:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Aug 2003 7:19PM GMT
Surnames: BOEHM
Looking for family related to Francois Pierre Boehm who immigrated from Hessen Darmstadt,Germany to St Louis MO. approx. 1842 because he had family living in St Louis. His wife's name was Magdalena, son Franz, daughter Lizette and only son born in the US in St Louis, 1842 was Peter.

After the cholera outbreak in St Louis the family moved to New Orleans, LA. Francois's family stayed in NO while he left for Oroville, CA approx. 1849 to early 1850's during gold rush. Francois died in 1858 in Oroville in a fire.!

Anyone related or with info please contact me at adaroca@msn.com.

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 2:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Boehm
Francois Pierre Boehm could possibly be in my husbands family tree. We are able to trace back to Percy Charles Boehm born in New Orleans late 19th century, married to Maud Rider, and died 1965 or 1966. The time frame could put him as a son of one of the sons of Francois. If you have any more info on this possible line we would appreciate it very much.

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 26 Feb 2012 5:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Do you know the names of the family members living in St. Louis?

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 28 Feb 2012 10:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
No, sorry, I don't know any of his family members' names in St Louis. I only have the family member names in New Orleans.

Are you from the Boehm or Schwendle line?

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 28 Feb 2012 10:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry, I just noticed your reply from 2008. Your Percy Charles Boehm is not familiar to me. There was one other Boehm family living in New Orleans that was not related to mine, that I am aware of....

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 28 Feb 2012 11:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
My Grandmother was Estella Boehm b. 1897 and her father was Joseph C. Boehm, grandfather Lorenz Boehm. Estella WAS FROM Chicago Joseph b.was born in St. Louis. The census says that Lorenz b. abt 1830was born in Germany - Bavaria. He was married to Elizabeth Nuemerich b. abt. 1845 who was born in Hessie Damstadt, Germany. Looks like she was born in the same place as your ancestor. She and Lorenz were married in the US.

Thanks for replying

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 31 Mar 2012 1:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry but Percy is not directly related. There was another Boehm family living in New Orleans who were not related to our Boehm family and he may belong to that line.

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 31 Mar 2012 1:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry but that is my problem, I have not be able to find the Boehm family members in St Louis that they went to meet. My great great grandfather was born in 1805 in Hessen Darmstadt, Germany.

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 31 Aug 2012 5:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Louise: We are definitely but distantly related. Here is an excerpt from my Fleck Family History:

Mary Schwendel Fleck had a cousin whose maiden name was Magdalena Schwendel (not to be confused with Mary’s mother, Madge, whose married name was also Magdalena Schwendel). This Magdalena (1807-1890) was the daughter of Pancratious Schwendel, mentioned above in our dialog with the German genealogist. Magdalena married Francois Pierre Boehm in Rheinhessen, Hesse, July 27, 1830. They had two children born to them in Darmstadt: Francois Joseph (born 1831) and Lisette (born 1837). They immigrated to America, and their third child, Peter, was born in St. Louis in 1842. At some point, Magdalena and the three children relocated to New Orleans, where all four lived out their days, while her husband went to California. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but the California gold rush was in 1849. Francois Pierre Boehm died in Oroville in the Gold Country in 1858. Their daughter Lisette married William Siebold and they lived in New Orleans.

My Dad, in his Commentary on his Genealogical Table of the Fleck Family, told of a visit to the Siebolds when he was twenty years old. He was convinced there was

"… a very definite relationship [to] the Siebold Family, located in New Orleans, LA. This was brought to light in 1921, by Raymond A. Fleck, Sr., at the time of his personal visit to their home … where he was greeted as their “Cousin.”

The elderly couple, mother and father of the Siebolds’ three daughters, were referred to by Raymond A. Fleck, Sr., as “Aunt and Uncle”. This elderly couple was well into their 90s and were senile. They were taken care of by a powerfully built, tall black woman, who had been a slave, and a retainer in the family since that period. There were also one or two sons, who did not live at home with the family.

The elderly couple was probably William Siebold and his wife, Lisette Boehm, granddaughter of Pancratious Schwendel. In the same Commentary Dad noted

There is a letter to the writer from my cousin Lucille [Roesch] Stapleton which is part of the genealogical files, which has a bearing on the Siebold branch of the family. The letter is undated, but was received in the 1950s. It says in part:

“I am laboriously making copies of the family genealogy, most of which information was gathered by Dr. Herman Siebold, one of the New Orleans cousins. His mother was related to grandma Fleck. Incidentally her [grandma's] name was Mary Schwendel.”

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Louise, I would be interested any of the particulars about Francois Pierre Boehm's intinerary from St. Louis to Oroville. Did he go with his wife and three children to New Orleans before going to California? Your post indicates the Gold Rush was his motivation for leaving them. What do you have on his experiences there? You mention his death in a fire. -- I beienve I can come up with a picture of his father-in-law Pancratious Schwendel and his wife's cousin Mary (Anna Maria) Schwendel Fleck.


Raymond Fleck, Jr. (Our Ancestry account is in my wife's name.)

Re: Francois Pierre Boehm:Hessen Darmstadt,Germany>St Louis, MO,USA>New Orleans, LA>Oroville,CA

Posted: 1 Sep 2012 7:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Raymond-

Wonderful to hear from you. Looks like a match to me. I do have info on Francois in Oroville and a photo of his grave and headstone there that my son took several years ago while he was attending Berkley.

Please contact me at my email address, adaroca@earthlink.net, so I can forward the info I have to you and you can share with me.

Your cousin,
Andrea Boehm Daroca
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