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Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 6 Mar 2013 3:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hartman Lutes
I am looking for information on Andy Lutes and Hazel Hartman (aka Hazel Lutes). I am not able to locate their parents. My grandfather (Robert) was son of Hazel (and possibly Andy). My grandfather went by two names also; Robert Lawrence Lutes and Robert Lawrence Hartman. Hartman is the name he used when he married my grandmother Gloria. Any information would be helpful. It is thought that Robert had 2 siblings (Viola and Richard), but we are not sure if they share the same parents.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 5:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.


DOB's + birthplaces are needed for all family members.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 3:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Wrong County.....they were in (1930) Union, RUSH COUNTY, Indiana

Andy Lutes 60 (Born Kentucky)
Hazel Lutes 28 (Born Indiana)
Robert Lutes 6
Viola Lutes 1
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In 1940 Fayette County Indiana
Andy Lutes 74 claims he is still married
Thurman Dorter 35 (Boarder)


Name: Andy Lutes
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Mar 1925
Event Place: , Rush,
Other Event Place:
Registration Place: , Rush, Indiana, United States
Marriage License Date:
Residence: Franklin Indiana
Gender: Male
Age (Estimated): 51
Number of Prior Marriages: Twice
Race: White
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1874
Birthplace: Kentucky
Father's Name: Pete Lutes
Mother's Name: Sylvia Richerson
Spouse's Name: Hazel Hartman
Spouse's Residence: Rush
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age (Estimated): 23
Spouse's Number of Prior Marriages:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Date: 16 Apr 1902
Spouse's Birthplace: Laurel Indiana
Spouse's Father's Name: Wm Hartman
Spouse's Mother's Name: Cora Mcnutt
Informant's Name:
Officiator's Name: John P Stetch
Page:
Record Number:
Reference:
Film Number: 001784418
Digital Folder Number: 004186011
Image Number: 00184
Number of Images: 1
Batch Number: M02123-2

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 3:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hartman; Lutes
Thank you so much. I was not sure where so I posted in several counties that I thought were possibilities. With help of others I found the 1940 Census and Marriage information of Andy and Hazel. However, I have never seen the 1930 Census, thank you. What source did you find the 1930 Census and what information did you enter to find them?

I am also looking for more information on the William Hartman and Cora McNutt.

The information that is confusing to me is that my grandfather (Robert Lawrence Hartman) went by last name "Lutes" until he tried to enter into the military and officials told him his last name was "Hartman". I am trying to locate his actual birth records that would state his legal name and hopefully his biological parents. All the census information points to Andy being the father but stories are told that Hazel was taken advantage of and so I not sure if he truly is the father or not. Some could maybe have thought she was being taken advantage of simply because of the age difference. I don't know, so I am trying to find out.

Thank you so much!

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 3:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Census was on Ancestrylibraryedition
Marriage record was on Familysearch.org

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Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 5:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hartman; Lutes
Thank you.

Can you find anything on an orphanage or children's home that they (Robert, Viola, or Richard) may have lived in? Richard told me that at one time he lived in a home called Frazee. Also, I thought I found a census record that listed Viola in a children's home. However, I have not found anything on my grandfather (Robert Lawrence - Last Name "Lutes" or "Hartman") who I am told was also raised in an orphanage/children's home.

Thank you again!!

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 5:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
1940 Richard was living with his mother in Columbia Township, Fayette County, Indiana. The only FRAZEE I know is a school in Connersville (Fayette County). I will post as and If I find.

K

Name: Richard Eugene Lutes
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Columbia Township, Fayette, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized): Son
Birthplace: Indiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1938
Residence in 1935:
Enumeration District Number: 21-1
Family Number: 48
Sheet Number and Letter: 3A
Line Number: 14
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1042
Digital Folder Number: 005459798
Image Number: 00009

Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Hazel Lutes F 38 Indiana
Son Richard Eugene Lutes M 2 Indiana


Ahhh Robert was in Rush County in 1940
Name: Robert Lutes
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Rushville Township, Rush, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized): Lodger
Birthplace: Indiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1924
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Enumeration District Number: 70-15
Family Number: 240
Sheet Number and Letter: 12A
Line Number: 13
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1091
Digital Folder Number: 005459847
Image Number: 00463
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Sam Finney M 51 Indiana
Wife Mable Finney F 48 Indiana
Son George Finney M 15 Indiana
Lodger Robert Lutes M 16 Indiana

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 5:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Viola (they mis-spelled her last name) was in Gordon's Childrens home in Shelby County Indiana in 1940

Name: Viola Lutos
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Addison Township, Shelby, Indiana, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 11
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized):
Birthplace: Indiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1929
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Enumeration District Number: 73-9
Family Number:
Sheet Number and Letter: 11B
Line Number: 63
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1094
Digital Folder Number: 005459850
Image Number: 00592

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 5:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hartman; Lutes
I was thinking maybe Robert had also been there at some point but I cannot find any record of him or other records of the Gordon Children's Home.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 5:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think that Robert was about a year old when Hazel married Lutes.

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Name: Robert L Hartman
Birth Year: 1924
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Indiana
State of Residence: Indiana
County or City: Fayette

Enlistment Date: 22 Jul 1942
Enlistment State: Indiana
Enlistment City: Fort Benjamin Harrison
Branch: Air Corps
Branch Code: Air Corps
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life

Education: 1 year of high school
Civil Occupation: Semiskilled occupations in manufacture of automobiles, n.e.c.
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 69
Weight: 135



Source Information:

National Archives and Records Administration. U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.

Description:
This database contains information on about 8.3 million men and women who enlisted in the U.S. Army during World War II. Information contained in this database usually includes: name of enlistee, army serial number, residence (county and state), place of enlistment, enlistment date, grade, army branch, component, term of enlistment, birthplace, year of birth, race and citizenship, height and weight, education, and marital status.


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