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Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 1 Jul 2012 8:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Schatz
1. Does anyone have any Schatz ancestors that may have lived in the environs of Jenbach, Schwaz District, or across the Inn River in the Zillertal?

Also, I'm looking for other Schatz males who have tested their DNA, especially in Tirol or Kärnten. Thanks very much.

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 15 Jul 2012 8:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Schatz, Beck, Zepp
My Schatz ancestors lived in Moersch, GER, northwest of Jenbach as early as 1706. They were members of the Reformed church. They immigrated to Montgomery County, PA in 1764. I don't know of any connection, do you?

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 16 Jul 2012 3:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, thanks for your message. Moresch is in the Palatinate, across the Rhine from Mannheim. I think this is too far from Jenbach to represent a connection in the late 17th/early 18th centuries. Are your Montgomery County Schatz still extant? I'm aware of a Colonial Era Schatz family in Bucks County, are you related?

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 16 Jul 2012 3:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, I am related to the Bucks County Schatz's. Our ancestor, Henrich Schatz, had 11 children who resided in Montgomery County, Bucks County, and Lehigh County. One branch also eventually went to Canada, but many still live in SE PA. My maiden name is Schatz. My branch went from Montgomery County to Bucks County to Lehigh County and then started to scatter after about 180 years in PA. There are some still there.

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 16 Jul 2012 3:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
My own family is from Lehigh County, but arrived much more recently from Austria (my mother's ancestors are Colonial). Have any of the men in your family conducted DNA testing? If they match with me it would show that we are related more distantly in time. There's circumstantial evidence that suggests my Schatz may have originated in the Rhine valley in Eastern Switzerland in the 14th/15th centuries. It is certainly conceivable that a Schatz family in southwest Germany could have the same roots.

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 17 Jul 2012 12:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
No none of the men have conducted the DNA testing. Would be great if we could get one to do it but not sure it will happen.

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 17 Jul 2012 5:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Jul 2012 5:36PM GMT
Schatz is a very usual name in Austria.
phonebook for Austria has 1730 !!!hits for Schatz:
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/schatz/
for Tirol 254 !!! hits in following districts
Innsbruck Land West (64)
Imst (57)
Innsbruck (Stadt) (40)
Reutte (23)
Innsbruck Land Ost (21)
Schwaz (21)
Kufstein (16)
Innsbruck Land Mitte (4)
Lienz (4)
Kitzbühel (3)
Landeck (1)
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/tirol/schatz/
Jenbach belonges to district Schwaz:
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/schwaz/schatz/

"There's circumstantial evidence that suggests my Schatz may have originated in the Rhine valley in Eastern Switzerland in the 14th/15th centuries."
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Rhein-Karte....
some places/areas in Switzerland are possible if you look on the Rhein at map, starting in Kanton Graubünden to the north leaving Switzerland at Basel in the north-west.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine#Switzerland.2C_Liechtenst...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 17 Jul 2012 6:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, many thanks! I've already done all that research, and am familiar with both the distribution of the surname as well as the history and geography of Switzerland and Austria, I've traveled throughout that region. There are Schatz families documented in many towns in both the Rhine and Inn Valleys dating to the 1300s, the earliest documented Schatz uncovered thus far in western Tirol was originally from Mels, Switzerland. Vital statistics were not usually kept that early, so it's not possible to prove family connections, which is where DNA testing would come in very handy.

Re: Schatz from Jenbach, and Y-DNA

Posted: 25 Dec 2012 3:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Lehighschatz, sorry to write on your message board, but I had seen you posted a picture of my 2nd great grandfather (David Gaston). I'm currently working on my mother's side which is the Gaston's. I have hit a brick wall when it comes to David. You can email me at t.malitzki@yahoo.com You can also delete this thread if you need to since I doesn't go along with the "Schatz" thanks--Tammy
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