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Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 9 Sep 2012 10:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mertz
Seeking information about Christian Mertz and his wife Eva Shaner Mertz who emigrated to the States in about 1881-1882. They had two sons Charles and Otto born in 1874 and 1879. Settled in Muskegon, Michigan.

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 10 Sep 2012 1:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Sep 2012 1:07PM GMT
what do you mean with Asch? this one? >>> http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...

it would belong to Anras, East-Tyrol:
Die Siedlungen sind weit verstreut:
im Tal:
Erlbrücke, Köden, Fontnell, Margarethenbrücke, Mittewald
in halber Höhe:
Gebreite, Rain, Planitzen
auf den Eiszeitterrassen:
Winkl, Asch, Goll mit Zare und Kollreid, Anras mit Kolls, Mairwiesen, Wiesen, Ober- und Unterried
The settlements are scattered:
at valley:
Erlbrücke, Köden, Fontnell, Margaret Bridge, Mittenwald
at half height:
Plain of, Rain, Planitzen
at glacial terraces:
Winkl, Asch, Goll with Zare and Kollreid, Anras with Kolls, Mairmeados, Meadows, Upper - and Lower-Ried
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anras

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 10 Sep 2012 4:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Not 100% certain. Funeral records at church in Michigan appear to say "im Asch on Osterich". He was born 25 Jan 1827. Was there another Asch in Austria at that time? I've seen references in Wikipedia to Asch, now As, in Czechoslovakia.

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 10 Sep 2012 9:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Sep 2012 9:34AM GMT
yes, this can also be possible that you can find it outside of present Austria. the former Austria-Hungary was very big. it would be of help to know the former crownland, also the language they have spoken would be of help. but think it was german >>> Mertz.
it can have been crownland Bohemia that time, as you have stated "Czechoslovakia", which was much later and then not longer Austria (after 1919).
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C5%A1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C5%A1

castlegarden has no result for them - searched 1875-1885:
http://www.castlegarden.org/search_02.php?m_ship=&po_por...
http://www.castlegarden.org/searcher.php

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 10 Sep 2012 9:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
The language they spoke was German. All census records for them and their son Otto, except 1930, state Germany as their birthplace. In the 1930 census, it states Austria.

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 11 Sep 2012 9:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Sep 2012 9:57AM GMT
why have you posted then at Tirol-board?

if you have the guess for Bohemia, so they can have been later sonamed "Sudetengermans".
and Mertz is a name of Germany, so it would fit.

phonebook Germany: http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/
492 private hits
77 business-hits
austrian phonebook 42 hits: http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/mertz/

Czech Republic has many online to research:
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/crarch-info.html

Asch belonges to 3.1 Westböhmischer Kreis:
3.1.1 Státní okresní archivy (SOkA) - Staatliche Bezirksarchive im westböhmischen Kreis
(e-mail-adresses to find there)
Státní okresní archiv Cheb
Františkánské nam. 14
CZ-350 02 Cheb
Tel. +420-354 422 556, 354 422 557, Fax: 354 423 491,
Notiz: Archiv des Bezirks Eger mit Marienbad und Asch.
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/crarch-list.html#g1

online (but there is the language-problem): http://www.ahmp.cz/katalog

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 11 Sep 2012 6:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Pardon me. I am new to genealogy research and so my questions may be poorly stated or uninformed. I posted on the Tirol board because I thought the Asch they most likely came from is in Austria in the Tirol district. But, I do not want to dismiss totally the "other" Asch which seems now to be in Czechoslovakia. Thank you for the links for research in Czechoslavakia. Do you have similar links for research in the area of Tirol that Asch, Austria is located? Thank you again.

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 13 Sep 2012 11:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Sep 2012 1:27PM GMT
now Tirol is a state of Austria not a district. ;-)
for the east-tyrolean Asch belonging to Anras you can ask at tyrolean country-archive in Innsbruck. they have the churchbooks mircofilmed. so you can clear up if this ancestor is to find in this small alpine place in the mountains. think this info must be free:
http://www.tirol.gv.at/themen/kultur/landesarchiv/
churchbooks would exist for Anras since 1633.

but think also more for Bohemia, now Czech Republic.
it´s very close to german states Bavaria and Sachsen:
https://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&q=A%C5%A1+Czech+Republ...

"Czechoslovakia" does not longer exist.
The Czech Republic and Slovakia was established on 1 January 1993 by the division of Czechoslovakia.

Re: Mertz from Asch in Tirol

Posted: 14 Sep 2012 8:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks. Very helpful. I will continue to search both places to try to determine which is correct.
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