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Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 12:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Sep 2012 2:15PM GMT
Surnames: Vlach Vodicka Benes Janosek Vorlicek Vancura
I am looking for the birth places (specific villages) of the following people and/or their parents:

Emil Vlach - Born December 1863 in Bohemia, emigrated to US in 1882, parents: Vaclav Vlach and Marie Vorlicek, married to Anna Vodickova in NYC in 1889, children all born in the US: Emil, Charles, Anna, Robert, Jerome, Harvey

Anna Vodickova (or Vodicka) - Born December 1866 in Bohemia, emigrated to US in 1880, parents: Leopold Vodicka and Anna Vancurova (or Vancura)

Barbora Benesova (Benes) - Born 1881 in Bohemia, married Jan Janosek (who was born in Kosicepella but believed to have also lived in Bohemia), children born in the US: Mary (Marie), Rose, George, Eddie

I haven't been able to find them in any passenger lists and Narodni Archiv in Prague can't help unless I know the name of the village.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 2:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
harvard848

Try Leo BACA's 9 volumes Bohemians to America;
church marriage record or church baptismal record. You do need to have a precise place of birth to proceed with the research.

www.surnamenavigator.org
http://feefhs.org/links/czech.html
http://genforum.genealogy.com/czech/
http://www.archives.com/genealogy/family-heritage-czech.htm
http://www.wwjohnston.net/famhist/czech-research.htm
http://czechgenealogy.blogspot.com/

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 3:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dekuji moc.
I'm trying to apply for permanent residency and don't want to wait 5 years...

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 4:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome. Sorry that I could not help much.

I did miss this in your pos:
married Jan Janosek (who was born in Kosicepella.
In CZ: Kosice by Kutna Hora and Tabor.
Not sure about Pella. I know of a Kosicka Bela in Slovak Republic if that what might be Kosicepella.
http://www.mapy.cz/#x=21.131254&y=48.804239&z=12&...

http://seznam.1188.cz/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&type=&...=
http://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Vodi%C4%8Dka/hustota/

http://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Vlach/hustota/

Not an easy process of elimination without a precise location.

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 5:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
You just might be my saviour!
I didn't even know there was a Košice here. I knew of Košice in Slovakia because the IIHF games were there a couple years ago. I found my great-grandfather's WW2 draft card here on ancestry.com which said his birthplace was "Košicepella, Austria-Hungary". And a Slovak that I work with told me that just means he was from outside Košice. So I assumed he was born in Slovakia and moved somewhere to Bohemia before going to the US.
I guess it's back to Chodov for me. And now that I know where and when he was born I hope to find a document that I will be able to submit to apply for permanent residency.
Ještě jednou, děkuji moc.

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 5:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
My pleasure.

Košická Belá, Slovakia
1773, 1786 Bella, 1808 Bela, Bella, 1863–1873 Béla, 1877–1913 Kassabéla, 1920– Košická Belá [all the names this location was known by]
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/abauj-t.jpg

surnames in KB in 1995:
V obci KOŠICKÁ BELÁ (okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK) sa v roku 1995 nachádzali najčastejšie tieto priezviská: KOĽVEK 43×; KOĽVEKOVÁ 34×; PLICHTA 27×; DRÁBIK 24×; JANOŠČÁK 21×; JANOŠČÁKOVÁ 20×; GREGA 18×; DRÁBIKOVÁ 17×; GREGOROVIČ 17×; HROMÁ 16×; GREGOVÁ 16×; JERGA 16×; HROMÝ 15×; PLICHTOVÁ 15×; GREGOROVIČOVÁ 15×; DRABIK 14×; ADAMČÍK 14×; ZÁRIK 13×; JERGOVÁ 12×; ADAMČÍKOVÁ 11×; DIŠKANTOVÁ 11×; DIŠKANT 11×; TORMAŠI 10×; MIHOK 10×; KURJAN 9×; GERGEĽOVÁ 9×; ŇARŠANSKÝ 9×; DRABIKOVÁ 9×; DRABÍKOVÁ 9×; DRABÍK 8×; ŇARŠANSKÁ 8×; MIHOKOVÁ 8×; ZÁRIKOVÁ 8×; HOCKICKOVÁ 7×; VALENČÍK 7×; SEDLÁKOVÁ 7×; KRIŠTOF 7×; MARENČÍK 7×; TLUMÁČ 7×; MOLNÁR 7×; TORMAŠIOVÁ 6×; MARENČÍKOVÁ 6×; SEDLÁK 6×; GERGEĽ 6×; KANDRÁČ 6×; HOCKICKO 6×; KOSTELNÍKOVÁ 5×; KAŠPER 5×; RUŠČÁKOVÁ 5×; SEDLÁČEKOVÁ 5×; KOSCELNÍK 5×; URBANSKÝ 5×; TLUMÁČOVÁ 5×; LENÁRT 5×; MIČKÁŠOVÁ 5×; KANDRÁČOVÁ 5×; KURJANOVÁ 5×; LENÁRTOVÁ 5×; KRIŠTOFOVÁ 5×; TORMÁŠIOVÁ 5×; KIŠIDAY 4×; DANIEL 4×; TORMÁŠI 4×; MOLNÁROVÁ 4×; IVAN 4×; RZUHOVSKÝ 4×; PROKOPOVÁ 4×; BERNÁT 4×; TOMAŠKOVIČOVÁ 4×; KOSTELNÍK 4×; TLUMAČ 4×; KAŠPEROVÁ 4×; HOZA 4×; VEREB 4×; MIČKÁŠ 4×; PAŠÁK 4×; MAŠČÁK 3×; VARGA 3×; KOSCELNÍKOVÁ 3×; ONDISZOVÁ 3×; TIMURA 3×; MARJAKOVÁ 3×; BOBENIČOVÁ 3×; KMECOVÁ 3×; TURCZYK 3×; MEDVEC 3×; RYBÁR 3×; GOLIAŠ 3×; TURCZYKOVÁ 3×; ŠOLCOVÁ 3×; LŐRINCOVÁ 3×; RUŠČÁK 3×; VARGOVÁ 3×; MACEJ 3×; MARTONČÍK 3×; HOZOVÁ 3×; LÍŠKA 3×; VALENČÍKOVÁ 3×; LAPŠANSKÝ 3×; MACEJOVÁ 3×, ...

an ALL site for research in Slovakia www.iabsi.com/gen/public

church records :
https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainfra...

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 5:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Sep 2012 5:46PM GMT
These names are quite familiar to me, either because I know someone here with those names or have run into them during my Bohemian research. Vancura especially. But Vodicka, Janosek, Benes also. (One of my student graders was a Benes.) So do you know WHERE in the US these folks settled? Even generally? I know you implied you do not know, but perhaps a region? East coast? Midwest? Do you have any precise birthdates?

According to Sobotka, we have one Vodicka in Nebraska, Josef, and he was from Chlumetin, Hlinsko, Chrudim. We have two Vancuras, Jan from Cinoves, Kr. Mestec, Jicin, and Vaclav from Zbudovice, Caslav. Mat. Vlach from Vilimov, Kolc. Jenikov, Caslav, and a Leonard from the Plsen area. Too many Benes folks to list.

Re: Czech ancestry - Vlach, Vodicka - Janosek, Benes

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 6:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Sep 2012 6:32PM GMT
All of my family settled in NYC. From what I have been able to piece together, the only exact birthdate I have found is Jan Janosek (John Janousek) 6 January 1878.

Jan Janosek immigration

Posted: 22 Sep 2012 9:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Any chance the Jan Janosek who arrived in New York on 05 June 1901 is yours? Age 21, ship Friedrich Der Grosse. Image 62 of 72 line 10. Yes, he is going to a brother in Chicago, but that doesn't mean he didn't change his mind. See attached.
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Re: Jan Janosek immigration

Posted: 23 Sep 2012 11:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 Sep 2012 11:22AM GMT
I don't think that is the right one. If the information on the US census records is accurate, he went to the US in 1903.
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