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Jozef Cunderla b. 1868 d. 1940(USA)

Jozef Cunderla b. 1868 d. 1940(USA)

Tami McKenzie (View posts)
Posted: 18 Jun 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cundrla, Cunderla, Kurila, Kruila
Jozef Cundrla and his wife, Elizabeth A. Kurila-Cundrla are my great-grandparents. Their son, my grandfather Frank Joseph Sundrla, died in 1974 (was six years old). No one in our family (still living) know much about them. I flew back to Michigan last week 6-07-00 for a death in the family and had an opportunity to meet my great-uncle Joe Sundrla (my grandfather's brother). My great uncle is 92 yrs. and doesn't have all "the Facts" about his parents anymore(although he did tell me some wonderful stories that no data base could ever tell me).
This what I know for sure...the spelling of the last name was altered to SUNDRLA but a school teacher my great uncle Joe had, she didn't like the little "things" above the vowels. I have found it two different ways noted above, but neither is correct for "the old country". I also know that my great grandpa Jozef came to the U.S. through Ellis Island (according to my uncle) approximately 1899. He was traveling with a nephew Ver (Uncle Joe doesn't remember who to spell Ver???). My great grandmother Elizabeth Kurila-Cunderla would have followed after 1899 (she was b. 1882).
The only thing we know about their life in Austria is that my great grandpa Jozef's Mother worked for a Jewish family before the Great War, as uncle Joe calls it, WWI; story has it she was arrested for stealing a slice of bread while cleaning up after the family's dinner one night. I don't know her name, other her married name, Cunderla(?), she got 30 days in jail for the theft. My uncle also mentioned his parents would talk about dances they would go to in Austia, 20 miles outside of Vienna, is either were they lived, or where the dances were, he wasn't sure. If it's any help both my grandfather and great uncle were born in the U.S. somewhere in Pennsylvania, but it's the roots back to Austria I am trying to find. Also, my family is split, some say Elizabeth was from Austria, others say from Chez.
Thank you for any assistance you may have or find. Look forward to any information you find, thank you again!

Jozef Cundrla

Patty Sundrla/Johnston (View posts)
Posted: 18 Jan 2001 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cundrla, Cunderla
Dear Tami,
In my e-mail to you I forgot to mention that great grandma
Elizabeth remarried (her new married name was Morin.) She died June, 1959. She was buried next to great grandpa on
June 26,1959, five months and two days before I was born.
When the name Cundrla came to the states it was told to us
that it was spelled Cundrla and later changed to Sundrla as
my Grandpa Joe told you by his teacher. His name Joesph was
spelled like great grandpa's also until his teacher changed
that also. Again any information that I find I will be happy
to send it to you. Thanks for your help. Patty Sundrla/Johnston (e-mail address: PSundrla@aol.com

Jozef Cundrla

Patty Sundrla/Johnston (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2001 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cundrla, Cunderla
Dear Tami,
I had written to you last about two great aunts dying on the
way over to the states. I talked to my Grandma Doris (your
Uncle my Grandpa Joe's wife,) she said that these aunts were
born in Pennsylvania also. She said the was a baby girl(who
died shortly after she was born,)Joe, Frank and another baby
girl (who also died young, due to cancer.) There was talk of
great grandma and grandpa living in places like Merrayvia
and Modava. I'm not sure of the spelling at the moment. I
was also told that one of my cousins are trying to find info
as well. Somethings I've found are in other languages and
I haven't had the time to get them translated into English.
I have found the Cundrla name in Denmark and at a University
in Czeh.
Great grandpa had a twin sister. He had seven sisters in
all. Great grandma had eight children counting her in her
family also. One of her brothers died during the war.
My grandpa said something about 122 Lane St. that great
grandpa lived on, but as you said before you must listen to
his stories to hopefully get the info your looking for.
My Grandma Doris said she would help were ever we need.
I'm still looking for more info through the internet and
my dad is going to talk to my uncle to see if he keep any of
the info he received from the professor that told him we
were related to Hitler.Good-bye for now. Patty

Re: Jozef Cundrla

Posted: 23 Nov 2012 12:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cundrla, Morin, Manzel
Hi- I was trying to find an Elizabeth Cundrla married to George Morin (my ggpa). I found Elizabeth C Morin 1882-1959 gs in the Manzel family plot of 5. She is buried next to Jozef Cundrla Manzel 1868-1940. Sorry that is all I have. You could probably call Holy Sepulchre Cemetery in Southfield, Michigan to get more information on the other gravestones. If you have anything on George Morin and Elizabeth C - it would be SO appreciated!

Re: Jozef Cundrla

Posted: 23 Nov 2012 7:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
The place is Moravia, which is now part of Czech Republic

Name: Josef Cundrla
Arrival Date: 29 Mar 1905
Birth Date: abt 1869
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Race: Bohemian
Port of Departure: Bremen
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse
Destination Mt Pleasant MI
Former Residence Staznica, Moravia

Michigan Marriage record
groom's name: Josef Cundrla
groom's race:
groom's age: 56 years
groom's birth date: 1868
groom's birthplace: Austria
bride's name: Elizabeth Kurilova
bride's race:
bride's age: 42 years
bride's birth date: 1882
bride's birthplace: Austria
marriage type:
marriage date: 18 Jul 1924
marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
groom's father: Josef
groom's mother: ...na Sura
bride's father: Martin
bride's mother: Elizabeth Rahovska

The reason for the change of spelling, once settled in the US is that the letter C (with no mark over it) sounds like ts, as in the word cats.... thus closer to the way we pronounce S in the US

Robert Jerin
Croatian Heritage Museum

Re: Jozef Cundrla

Posted: 4 Jan 2013 5:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Sundrla, Morin, Leduc
Thanks so much for the information on this board. It got me into a branch that I could not find ANYHING on! SO APPRECIATED
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