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Joseph LEPINE m. Mary MILO ~ prob. VT

Joseph LEPINE m. Mary MILO ~ prob. VT

Shirley Strich (View posts)
Posted: 10 May 2000 4:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 7:19PM GMT
Surnames: Lepine, Milo, Milot, Lenois, Lanoix, Lanoie
Grandfather's name was George William Lapine, born in Cornish, NH 8/2/1871--no records. His parents were Joseph Lapine and Mary Milo, both supposedly born in Woodstock, VT--No records. He also had half-siblings named "Lenois" (Harry Fred, Phillip and Burton). Supposedly George's male children were named for uncles and family members--family names carried on are: William, Joseph, Franklin, Charles, Henry, Alfred and Albert. Any information please contact me.

Aditional info - re: Joseph LAPINE (Lepine) b.1848 - m. Mary MILO b.1851

Shirley Strich (View posts)
Posted: 11 May 2000 6:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 9:29PM GMT
Surnames: Lepine, Lapine, Milo
Cousins remember "family friend" visiting when they were children, 1920-1930's. He was from the "MICMAC" tribe in CAN. There is also a Dennis Lepine, Tribal Chief, of the "CREE" tribe in Alberta, CAN. "CREE" tribe originated in Ontario, CAN. Very difficult time trying to locate any records, any help would be greatly appreciated.

sorry... no luck

Posted: 11 May 2000 6:59PM GMT
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 9:30PM GMT
Hi Shirley,
I'm Johanne Lépine,I'm living in St-Alphonse,Quebec but I'm born in Ste-Mélanie where there are Lépine and Lanoix families. I verified in Ste-Mélanie registers but I didn't find connections with the one you gave. But there is another branch in St-Ligori where there are also many Lanoix (some write Lanoie), probably you can find something there. It's diificult to do researches for the moment in the region because the Joliette genealogical society burned in March. I suggest you to communicate with the archives nationales du Quebec at: . Also, if your branch comes Joliette area, you must look for those years for: Chevaudier dit Lépine or Bérard dit Lépine and Milot and not Milo. Finaly, there are no Lenois in Quebec.
So, I hope that my informations could help you somewhere in your researches. Be free to contact me again if you have other questions.

Good luck!

Johanne Lépine

Questions

Shirley Strich (View posts)
Posted: 12 May 2000 6:14AM GMT
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 9:31PM GMT
Surnames: Lepine, Lapine
Thank you so much for the information. Many times I have gotten the feeling that the family just doesn't exist--but I know that can't be true or I wouldn't be here! Can you tell me what the "dit" between two names means? I see this quite often and figure if I can get back in time far enough I may run into it in my family tree. Also, I appreciate knowing the other spellings of the "Lenois" name. It appears that it was Americanized. I'll let you know when I am able to make a breakthrough. Do you know anything about the "MICMAC" Indians? I also know that there is a Matthew Lepine who is the Tribal Chief of the "CREE" Indians now located in Alberta, CAN but the tribe originated in Ontario. Does your family have any Indian connection?
Thanks for your Help.

various info for research

Posted: 12 May 2000 5:46PM GMT
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 9:32PM GMT
Hi Shirley,
Yes, the name Lanoix was probably américanized because the Lanoix comme from fom a region of France.
In the history of my mother's ancestors, the involvement of the Micmacs allowed to survive during the battle of Bloody Creek in Acadia following the acadians' deportation. The Acadians were friends with the Micmacs. They learned from them how to survive against the English army. The Micmacs were very good hunters and they used a technique to attack the ennemy from behind. The Micmacs were from the Maritime Provinces of Canada (New Brunswick, Nova Scotia) and in the Gaspesian Peninsula of Quebec. Another part was from Maine (USA).
In my father'ancestors there are no connection with Indian nations. But, one branch of the Forest's family is not from Acadian origins. It comes from Manitoba and they are called Métis or mixed blood. Their actual president is Claude Forest. I will look in my files, I think I have his address.
I also have a bit of information about the different Indian nations of Quebec. I can translate it the best I can for you during the weekend and I will try to see if there is a Lanoix association in Quebec.
Keep in touch,

Bye!
Johanne
Posted: 13 May 2000 11:08PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 9:34PM GMT
Hi Shirley,
I finall found and have the time to translate all I have about the Micmacs.

Here are those texts:

The Algonquians are nomadics who live of hunting and fishing; they also feed themselves with berries, plants and roots. They poursue game in snow-shoes, move in bark canoe and live in wigwams. Their social organization is based on the familial cell. Many families form a band or a clan. Each band is conducted by a chief without a lot of authority. Many bands form a tribe or a nation, for example: the Cree(Cris), the Montagnais or the Naskapis. Each nation occupies its own territory. For example: the Abéanaquis, the Micmacs and the Malécites live in the Gaspesian Peninsula and in a part of Maine; and the Algonquins occupy the Outaouais River region. A nation is governed by a wise men Council (The Sachems). In the Iroquois tribe, many nations join together in one league. So, at the South of the St. Laurent River, the tribes of Agniers (Mohawks), the Onneiouts, the Onontagués, the Goyogouins and the Tsonnontouans form the Iroquois League.
The Iroquoians who live in the Great Lakes region and southwest to the Richelieu River, are half-sedentary indians who practice the agriculture (corn, beans, gourds) in addition with fishing and hunting. This family is divided in two: The Hurons and the Iroquois. They plant tobacco, but don't know the plow and the fattening pattures, nor the fallow system. They change of territory every 10 or 15 years, because the ground fastly wears itself out. Their houses are permanent. Those one are rectangular log-houses with good proportions (about 30 meters long by 10 meters large). They are called "Long Houses" which are grouped together in a large village surrounded by a palissade. A village often shelters a dozen of descendants families of the same grandmother. Effectively, in the Iroquoians tribe, women boss widely!
Those are the one who rule the day to day life in the long house, where the grandmother ensures the authority. When a young man wants to be married, he goes to live in the house with his mother-in-law. All the works which ensure the subsistence of families are of the women's competence.
Champlain give us details of it: " Those are the one, he says, who make almost everything. They plow, sow the corn, do the provisions for Winter, weave the hemp, even carry their husband's luggages. As for men, they go hunting and fishing, build houses and do war.
The Amérindiens (Indians) believe in one supreme power. In the Algoquians tribe, this is the Manitou; and in the Iroquoians tribe, it's the Orenda.
The power of wind, rivers and forests come to them from this supreme soul. A spirit also live in animals and objects. There is no priest, strickly speaking, but a Chaman, or a sorcerer, who controls spirits. The améridiens also believe in the immortality of their soul and in a life after Life, in which hunting and fishing will be the main occupations.

reference: Marcel Tessier / Chroniques d'histoire / édition de l'homme, Montréal, 2000, p.20-21

The rest, tomorrow...
Bye!

Johanne

Micmac/Cree

Shirley Strich (View posts)
Posted: 14 May 2000 9:14AM GMT
Johanne,

Thank you so much for taking such an interest in my questions. I do not live in the area and it has been difficult to learn about some subjects since textbooks in the USA do not have that much about the Indian tribes I asked about. I do know that I have found a Matthew Lepine, Tribal Chief of the CREE Indians in Alberta, CAN, they were originally from Ontario (I mentioned him in previous emails to other people). I have written to him to find out what he can tell me about how the Lepine name came into the tribe.That should be interesting to all of us.

I am a fountain of questions and I have another one for you. Numerous times when I have contacted Lepines in the past I have been told that there were two distinct Lepine Families. Do you know anything about this? I know I have a document about a Berard dit Lepine and I have seen the Chevaudier dit Lepine name before but since I have not been able to trace my family out of the USA, I do not know if I am related to either of those families yet.

Thank you so much for all your help and I hope you have a wonderful day!

Shirley
Posted: 14 May 2000 10:38AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 10:04PM GMT
Hi Shirley,
Here is the following about the Micmacs...

FROM MAINE TO THE SOUTH COAST
From St.Michel to Cape St-Ignace, the South coast has also welcomed the Abénakis from Acadia (Acadie). (the Maine has been defeated in a battle engaged with the Iroquois in 1684). After the loss of Acadia to the English's hands in 1713, many Amérindiens (indians), came to seek shelter on the South Coast. So, the Acadians ejected too from Acadia rejoined the Indian friends on the coast.
At St.Michel, this is Jean-marie La Corne, priest since 1739, who received the Indians.(36) But, Jean-Marie La Corne was the son of Marie Pécaudy of Contrecoeur. The "Seigneuresse" at St.Michel was no one than Françoise Pécaudy of Contrecoeur, widow of Hugues Michel Péan and mother of Michel Jean Hugues Péan. Again, the Acadians met their acquaintances. The acadians who came on the South Coast had good relationships with the indians: they were sharing the same destiny and were helping each other. At Cacouna, the Acadians received the help from the Malécites,in particular, and from the Micmacs.
Réal Lebert, who had written in 1975 the history of Cacouna tells how the Acadians arrived in two groups: "First, with Michel Bergeron in 1758. Left from the St-Jean River, after to have escaped to the deportation, they wintered at Cacouna and the following Spring, go to Bécancour.
(Informed, no doubts, by the Abénakis Malécites of Cacouna, because there were Abénakis in Bécancour).
Some of these Acadians stayed on the South Coast. The second group came in part from St.Anne on the St.Jean River (now Fredericton, New Brunswick)."

36. Marie Antoine Roy writes: " The Micmacs of Cape Breton and the Abénakis (Malécites) of St.Jean Island have been evangélized in turn by the Jésuites, the Récollets and the Capucins. (3 communities of priest)
But, the transfer of Acadia isolated and delivered them to the English's mutinies. Tired of this oppressive regime, they prefered to quit their territory, even abandonned all hope of survival, rather than of renouncing to their faith and to break off with France.
Then, began the weathering of these nations: from small groups, unbinded complete villages cleared out and came to settle on the St.Laurent River shores that they treated with the most warmful consideration."

reference: Les Acadiens du Québec / Pierre-Maurice Hébert,édition de l'écho, Montréal, 1994, p. 123.

If you're a mother, Happy Mothers'Day!
If not, Good Day!

Johanne
Posted: 14 May 2000 12:49PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 10:05PM GMT
Hi Shirley,
I have another 5 minutes for you...

This come from Les Acadiens du Québec of Pierre Maurice Hébert, p. 254

One could establish a link between the Acadians of Beauce (Quebec) and the part of Acadia which is found today in Maine (USA). In the surroundings of the American park Acadia, was an Acadian colony; the Latour and the Saint Castin found fame there. The Pentagoëts, who reigned there, were communicating with the Beauce by the Chaudière River. Allied nation with the Abénakis,they were doing the link with the Micmacs and were establishing the relationship between Quebec and Acadia.
Honorius Provost writes about this: "Registers of the three first parishes of Beauce contain a huge number of acts which concerned them. [the Indians] they were coming sometimes from villages of St.François-du-Lac and from Bécancour, sometimes, and more often, from the village of Acadia. this village of Acadia (this is here the old continental Acadia of which the capital is Pentagoët, today Castine, Maine) should be identified with the large village of Panaouamské, on the Penobscot River, located at few miles above the city of Bangor, this is the actual Indian reserve named Old Town.
[...] Charles Lawrence futur Governor of Nova Scotia (in 1753) got ready to carry out the Deportation of the Acadians, under the accomplice eye of the Government of London and of Shirley, Governor of Massachussett. The English settlers didn't want to settle on the rocky lands at the surroundings of Halifax; so, one offered them after the deportations, the nice lands of the Acadians
in the Annapolis Valley.
From Quebec, one prepared the defense of the isthmus (the huge "Seigneurie" of Beaubassin which step over the actual province of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick). To do so, the Governor La Galissonière and after the Governor La Jonquière invited the Acadians to settle at Beauséjour. La Corne was there for this transfert of the Acadians at the cross-roads of the three rivers: Chipoudy, Petitcoudiac and Memramcook. So, Beaubassin was completely evacuated by the Acadians who then, passed on the side of Beauséjour in 1750. Father Le Loutre, soldier as well as priest, set the fire to the Acadians' houses with the help of the Micmacs. An English interpreter, Edward How, is killed in 1750, without one knows who is responsable, the Frenchs or the Micmacs."

I think I have somewhere a text talking about the battle of Bloody Creek when the Micmacs helped the Forest to fight against the English soldiers.

Bye!

Johanne

Re: Lepine

Mariette Parsons (View posts)
Posted: 17 May 2000 3:42PM GMT
Edited: 10 Jul 2004 10:06PM GMT
Hi!
I have been researching all the descendants
of Gabriel Berard dit Lepine. Pretty well all of
his descendants dropped Lepine went on simply
as Berard. Chevaudier dit Lepine is another
surname and most of of thosem descendants dropped the Chevaudier
went on as simply Lepine. Here in Manitoba,
a Jean-Baptiste Lepine (who's full surname had
been Chevaudier dit Lepine)who was very much part of
the history of the Metis people. Most of his
descendants went west (Alberta Saskatchewan)
and they use the surname Lepine. Lepine is a
"dit name" and was added to several different
surnames. I suspect that you would be a
descendant of Chevaudier dit Lepine.
Mariette
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