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KY Cherokees

Michelle Anderson (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jun 2002 4:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have limited info. and if anyone here knows anymore, I would love to know. My father's family is from the eastern KY, Clay Co. area and a Chief Redbird keeps appearing in things I have read while doing genealogy research. He was a trapper and was killed by a drunk white settler near what is now known as the Redbird River. I believe this took place in the early 1800s. I've been led to believe that he didn't live in KY, he just traded there. I've always been told that he was Cherokee. This name has always come up when old family stories are related, so my curiousity is definitely piqued.

Re: KY Cherokees

Posted: 27 Jun 2002 6:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Sep 2002 1:23AM GMT
Surnames: Brock
Hi Michelle,
Chief Red Bird was either my ggggg grandfather Aaron Brock, or he was a brother of my gggg grandmother Susannah/Sukey Mahala Brock who md Edward Callahan. It's rather hard to prove after all these years. I would love to hear the stories handed down in your family. Go to google.com and type in Jesse Brock -- he was Aaron's son. Also type in Chief Red Bird - lots of things on the net about him. You can e-mail me privately if you want to. Would love to exchange info.
Joyce

Re: KY Cherokees

Silas Begley (View posts)
Posted: 4 Nov 2002 5:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 24 May 2003 1:34AM GMT
Hi Michelle,

Don't eat that about Aaron Brock being Chief Red Bird, that was thought up by someone with a very wild imagination, probably so that they could join one of the "plastic injun" organizations. There is no truth to it, and no one can come up with even a shred of creditable evidence to back it up!
I am a ggg-grandson of Chief Red Bird through his son Russell "Ruck" Sizemore, and I assure you that Aaron Brock is no ancestor of mine!
To say that Aaron Brock and Chief Red Bird are the same, is an insult to Chief Red Birds memory! And I intend to have that corrected.

Re: KY Cherokees

Posted: 26 Nov 2002 5:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Oct 2003 4:37AM GMT
Surnames: ross collins
can you explain this redbird and brock thing please?
you see I know that somehow we are associated to or related to an Aaron brock. I worked at 18 at a deptment store in Bakersfield ca by the name of Brocks and 3 generations of Aaron brocks owned the store. it has since been sold, but I was told that there was some sort of connection to them.
I do not know what the relationship is really. I would just like to find the connection, moore is a name that is familiar , but I don't know that I would have made any associations to a name sizemore at the ages that I was told the stories as I haven't ever had a friend or really ever had any kind of connection to a sizemore anything.
I am looking for a native connection in KY , a (eliza, elizabeth ) jane born ky 1809 and she states in two census that her parents are born ky ky.
I am not sure but I think she uses the name miller when she marries , but I don't think her dad was a miller, so I don't know how the miller name came to be. his name was Indian. a chief of something
I have a list of some cherokee men that g grandma told stories about, and I don't remember which one is our relation. or if I have remember him at all.
Red Bird is a possibility but it was pretty common sort of name. the ones I remeber best are the really weird ones! shoeboots
springfrog
dragging canoe
greenwood Leflore
and you won't beleive how I remebered most of these <LOL>
and some of the others were colored birds or animals but can't remember what they are.

Re: KY Cherokees

Silas Begley (View posts)
Posted: 26 Nov 2002 6:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Renee please contact me at SiBeg@aol.com on this. I have some of it, but a little large for a message board.
Silas

Re: KY Cherokees

paul (View posts)
Posted: 30 Dec 2002 9:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
hey yall, my granfather was carl jackson sizemore from ky, and i have heard the stories all my life can yall help...thanks again

Re: KY Cherokees

Charlene Hart (View posts)
Posted: 7 Mar 2003 1:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Silas, I would love to see your documentation on Chief Redbird. I know some say he was Arron Brock, and I've also heard he was a Sizemore. Mabey you can help put an end to all of the confusion. Charlene

Re: KY Cherokees

Adrianne (View posts)
Posted: 26 Apr 2003 12:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brock, Lea, Lee, Painter, Elsey
I have traced my family line back to James Brock, son of Aaron Brock. Have encountered all the "Red Bird" tales and would love to know the truth. If anyone discovers any new information I would really appreciate it if you would share. I would be happy to share the info. I have. Thank you.
Adrianne

Re: KY Cherokees

Pam (View posts)
Posted: 8 May 2003 1:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Are you going to update your information now that Ken Tankersley has found proof?

Re: KY Cherokees

Dan Akin (View posts)
Posted: 30 Jun 2003 11:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stivers
Mr. Begley;
My gggggrandmother was Sally Ann Stivers Neal. Her 1st. cousin was George Stivers and he supposedly married the daughter of Stephen Tudors. Stephen Tudors was supposedly the white captive of Red Bird and he married a cherokee lady named Morning Dawn.
I would like to know the truth about Red Bird and Aaron Brock. Henry Brock puchased articles from the estate of George Stivers.
I tried to e-mail you personally but it says you are not accepting e-mails.
Dan Akin.
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