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parents of James JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, in either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market)

parents of James JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, in either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market)

Posted: 18 Jan 2013 10:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Jan 2013 3:21AM GMT
Looking for parents of JAMES JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, listed as being born at either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market), NORFOLK, IL.
He died June 10th 1897 in at Barroway Drove, Stow Barfolk, NORFOLK. Registry & probate in London.
In 1851 he was servant in the home of
Hollege NEAL/NEALE/NEIL, where he met his future wife Harriet Neal, whom he married in Dec. 1851.
She was born Stow, Norfolk March 1857
(Her father was Hollege/Halledge/Holman/Holditch Neal.
Her mother was Sarah ______
They had Sarah & Harriet. Sarh married a HOWARD and
had a M. A. Howard around 1871.)
Their residence for most of the years was in Downham Market,
downham, Norfolk. 143 Barroway Drove.
James and Harriet had:
1 Charles Johnson born ca Feb 1857
married Eliza Ann Digby, Downham Market 10-1877
2 John H. Johnson born ca 1859

3 Sarah E. Johnson born ca 1860/61

4 Hugo H. Johnson born ca 1862

5 Mary J. Johnson born ca 1867

6 Georg Edward Johnson born ca 1869

7 Ann M. Johnson born ca 1871

8 Adelaide. born

Three separate James Johnsons born around the same time:
1 James Johnson b.1831 Garestone, Norfolk Eng to
William Johnson & Sarah ?
Mitford, Mattishall

2 James Johnson b. 1833 Beeston Regis, Norfolk, England
Sheingham, Erpingham, North Walson, to
Thomas Johnson & Ann_________.

3 James Johnson b. abt 1832 at East Lexham, Norfolk,
Mitford, Dereham

4 James Johnson b. abt 1830 at Fincham, Norfolk, England
C.P. thetford St. Culbert, Suffolk, Thetford Methwold.
to Lake Johnson & Jane _______

James is such a common name I can't find out who MY James
Johnson's parents and ancestors are.

born Feb 1857 Downham, Norfolk, England
Agriculture Lab

died Jan 23rd 1917, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, U.S.A.
He worked at Republic Steel in Chicago - in the
"East Side" neighborhood.
He resided at 10638 S. Green Bay Avenue.

Charles married Eliza Ann Digby Oct. 11th 1877 in the parish of Downham Market by E.C. K. Bearcroft B.C.L. curate.
Eliza was born March 1857 to Frederic Digby & Emma _____.

Fredric parents were William Digby & Aves/Avis EARLE

Charles and Eliza had:
1 Frederic J. (James?) b. abt 1879, some time between
1881 census and 1891. Downham, Norfolk, England.
Stow Bardolph, Downham, Barroway Drove

2 William Johnson born aprx 1881/82 Downham, Norfolk
Stow Bardolph, Downham St. Edmunds, Downham,
died Chicago, Cook County, ILlinois
married Dorethea Doerr, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

3 George Johnson born ca 1884 Norfolk

4 Mabel born ca 1886 Norfolk

5 Aves Johnson born ca 1890 Norfolk, England
married: 1

6 Addley Johnson (Adelaide?) born
Married Frank Williams
lived around 7447 SOuth Shore Drive
Chicago, IL (south shore neighborhood

Re: Johnson, James

Posted: 18 Jan 2013 10:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
His marriage certificate will give you his father's name and occupation. You can get it direct from the GRO ( for £9.25 including postage.

Re: Johnson, James

Posted: 19 Jan 2013 7:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Could you possibly translate Pounds to Dollars, and give me an old fashion address to correspond with? I don't own a computer and don't want put my info on the internet.
Thank you for taking ther time to give me this information.

Re: parents of James JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, in either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market)

Posted: 22 Jan 2013 7:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
James Johnson #3 on my list of James Johnson, his parents
were Charles & ?. Since James named his 1st son Charles, I figured it was part of a tradition.

Re: parents of James JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, in either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market)

Posted: 22 Jan 2013 9:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Jan 2013 10:11PM GMT
Hello again, Misty. £9.25 is about $15. Ordering the certificate online via the secure government website is not putting your "info on the internet" and is an extremely safe method of payment. However, you can, if you prefer, make a postal application. To do this, you will need to download an application form from here:

Before completing the form, make sure you read the guidance notes (downloadable from the same page).

Ordering a certificate via the mail will require you to write your full credit card details on the application form. The risks involved in doing this are relatively slight, but they are still higher than those involved in purchasing online and you should bear this in mind when making your choice.

Either way, you will get the certificate much more quickly if you provide the GRO reference which is:

James Johnson

Date of Registration:
Oct-Nov-Dec 1851

Registration district:

Volume Number:

Page Number:

Hope this helps


Re: parents of James JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, in either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market)

Posted: 4 Feb 2013 8:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
I made a list of James & Harriets children.
She immigrated 1891 to New York, He must have came
earlier, as only she and their kids were listed.
Ship: Berlin

1 * Charles b.1857 (Feb) Downham Market, Downham, Norfolk
died: Jan 23rd 1917 Chicago, Cook Co. Illinois
buried with his wife in Oak Wood? Cemetary, Chicago
occupation: Laber foreman, Chemical
married: Eliza Digby Oct 11, 1977 Downham, Norfolk
1 Frederick J. b.1879 Stow Bardolph,Downham,Norfolk
married Elizabeth ______ no date given,
in Ramsey, Huntingdonshire.
Son Ronald born aprx 1910 at Barroway Drove
Married: Gladys WILLIAMS 1932?
(names suggestion for Freds wife are:
1 Tatt, Lilly 2 Tiffen, Beatrice.

* 2 William May 1881 same
died no info as yet, but after 1930
married Dorthea DOERR ca 1905 Chicago Cook IL
1 Chester William 1908

3 George b. aprx Dec 1884 d.

4 Mable b. Feb. 1886 d.

5 Aves b. aprx. Aug 1889 d.
1 2

6 Adley(Adelaide?) b.July 1894 d.
Married: Frank WILLIAMS
she is sometimes called Florie's
( confusion as if is Florie another child)

7 Charles b. Feb 1899 d.

2 John Henry b. aprx 1859 same
married: 1 Mary Jane HEWITT/HEWETT 1884 Stow Bard.
2 Eliza FURMAGE 1891
3 Gertrude Lilly/Lily 1914 King Lynn

3 Sarah E. b. aprx 1860 same d.

4 Hugo Halledge b.aprx 1862 same
died Feb. 7th 1935 Rotherham, Yorkshire, West Riding
married: Laura Elizabeth Claxton Gibson
age 22 Downham Market, N.E.
children: 1 Thomas Henry 1886
2 Percy Hugo 1892

5 Mary J. b.aprx 1867 Downham Mrkt.

6 George Edward b.aprx 1869 same

7 Ann M. b.aprx 1871 same
d. missing 1881 census.

8 James W. b. zprx 1872 same

9 Adelaide __ b. aprx 1876 Stow Bardolph, Norfolk

Thanks for all the advice and info. I tried to figure out
how to change # to $ on my cell phone, but as my sister always says, I'm technolgy disabled.

Re: parents of James JOHNSON, born aprx 1830, in either Wimbotsham (fincham) or Downham (Donham Market)

Posted: 21 Jun 2016 6:12PM GMT
Classification: Lookup
Edited: 21 Jun 2016 7:06PM GMT
Surnames: Neale, Howard, Fuller, Ambrose
Hello immisty038,
Does this help you ?.
1841 Census
Bridge Street
Mary Johnson age 38 b.1803 Norfolk
James Johnson age 10 b.1831 Norfolk

Marriage Dec Quarter 1851 Downham Norfolk
James Johnson & Harriet Neale (Note Spelling)--Ref Vol 13 Page 208

1861 Census
Barrow Drove
Downham Market &
James Johnson age 30 b.1831 Wimbotsham Norfolk. Agricultural Labourer
Harriet Johnson Wife age 27 b.1834 Stow Bardolph Norflok
Charles Johnson Son age 4 b.1857 Downham Norfolk
John H Johnson Son age 2 b.1859 Downham
Sarah E Johnson Daughter b.1860/61 Downham

1871 Census
Downham Market
James Johnson Head age 40 b.1831 Wimbotsham Norfolk. Agricultural Labourer
Harriet Johnson Wife age 38 b.1833 Stow Bardolph, Norfolk

1881 Census
Barrow Drove
Downham Market
James Johnson Head age 50 b.1831 Wimbotsham, Norfolk. Farmer 47 Acres
Harriet Johnson Wife age 48 b.1833 Stow, Norfolk
John H Johnson Son Single age 22 b.1859 Downham, Norfolk. Farmers Son
Hugo H Johnson Son Single age 20 b.1861 Downham Norfolk. Farmers Son
Mary J Johnson Daughter age 14 b.1867 Downham Norfolk
George E Johnson age 13 b.1868 Downham Norfolk
James W Johnson Son age 9 b.1872 Downham Norfolk
Adelaide Johnson Daughter age 5 b.1876 Downham Norfolk

Baptism 19 Oct 1884 Ashill, Norfolk
Mary Elizabeth Johnson Daughter of James & Harriet Johnson

1891 Census
Stow Bardolph Formerly Downham
Downham St Edmunds
James Johnson Head age 60 b.1831 Norfolk. Farmer
Harriet Johnson Wife age 58 b.1833 Norfolk
Edward G Johnson Son Single age 22 b.1869
James W Johnson Son Single age 18 b.1873 Norfolk
Kate Johnson Grand Daughter age 4 b.1887 Norfolk
William Howard Visitor Single age 31 b.1860 Norfolk
Mary Fuller General Servant Single age 17 b.1874 Norfolk
Robert Ambrose Agricultural Servant age 18 b.1873 Norfolk

Hope this helps in some small way.
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