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Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Posted: 22 Jan 2013 8:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Jan 2013 10:18PM GMT
Frederick Johnson was born 1879 to Charles Johnson and Eliza Digby. He is in the 1881 census with them in Downham Market, Downham, which name was change to ? Bardolph?
In the 1891 census he was livng with his grandparents, Frederick DIGBY & wife Emma.
In 1893 his family immigrated to USA, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois.
I wondered why he was living with his grandparents and
didn't go to USA with his family. Amd what became of him?
He next sibling, William is our family line.
William married Dorothea DOERR in about 1905 in Chicago, and had:
1 Chester William b. 1908
2 daughter
3 son
The two younger siblings are in the 1920 census and then disappear.
Chester married Betty Flentke and had
1 Ilene around 1937/38
2 JoAnn abt 1939/40
3 Sandra Dec 6 1941 (day before Pearl Harbor
4 Chet Edward b. April 28th 1945
5 Elizabeth Ann b. around 1951/53
They divorced and than
Chester married Elsie ________ and had:
6 Jackie (daughter)

Chet Edward(Butch ) married Virginia Carr and had
1 Cynthia Louise b.9-25-1966
2 Chet Edward Jr. b. 11-21-1968
Divorced
Chet had David around 1972 with Janice.
Chet is said to have been married 7 times. He died in
Albertsville, Alabama 1998- 2006.

Cyndie married Dwight WOLFE in WISconsin and had
Nathan Wolfe b April 7, 1985
Then married Martin Krezminski and had
JudeKrezminski June 17, 1991
Then married John Buckland around 2004

Chet Edward Jr. married Rosemary Louise 1997 and had:
1 Elizabeth Ann on his birthday, 11-21-1997
2 Andrew S. Johnson b. April 29th abt 2002.

Re: Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Posted: 22 Jan 2013 10:58PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Edited: 23 Jan 2013 1:35PM GMT
Surnames: WEBB,
"which name was change to ? Bardolph?" The census reads Stow Bardolph

You can see the history of this place if you Google it.

Stowbardolph.co.uk
Vilage Information, History and Genealogy

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Stow Bardolph is a small village, tucked away to one side of the modern A10, just outside Downham Market. Farming has traditionally been (and still remains) the main activity in the area.

The village name has evolved from Stowe Bardolf meaning "Meeting place of the Bardolfs". This almost certainly came about as a result of connections with the Lords Bardolf, from nearby Wormegay Castle.

The village centres around the site of Stow Hall, a stately mansion constructed by Nicholas Hare, Esq. Master of the Rolls and Keeper of the Great Seal in 1589, at a cost of £40,000. Nicholas Hare also constructed Hare Chapel - a large annexed dormitory for the interment of himself and family adjoining the Church, which is dedicated to the Holy Trinity.

Since that time, the Hare family have played a significant role in the village's history. In 1622, Sir Ralph Hare built six almshouses, and provided them with 86 acres of land for division among the inmates. Later, in 1744, Sarah Hare commited the sin of sowing on a Sunday. Whilst doing so, she pricked her finger and, shortly afterwards, died of blood poisoining. In her will, she requested that six poor men from the parish act as her pallbearers, and they each receive five shillings for their services. She also bequeathed two shillings and sixpence to each of the poor residents of Alms Row, and requested that an effigy of her face and hands be made and placed in a Mahogany case, close to where she was buried. The effigy still remains in the Hare Chapel of Stow Bardolph's Holy Trinity Church, acting as a warning to Sabbath breakers. It is the only funerary effigy of it's kind outside of Westminster Abbey.

One pub remains in the centre of the village - the Hare Arms. The original building was erected during the Napoleonic wars, (at a time when Nelson travelled through the village en route to his ship in London), and the transformation of the house into an inn took place when Captain Thomas Hare offered it to three soldiers.



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Frederick married and had at least one child, and he can be seen on the 1911 census


Name Relation Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born
JOHNSON, Frederick Head Married M 33 1878 Farmer Norfolk Stow Bardolph
JOHNSON, Elizabeth Wife Married 4 years F 27 1884 Ramsey Huntingdonshire
JOHNSON, Ronald Son Single M 1 1910 Norfolk Stow Bardolph
WEBB, Walter Servant Single M 15 1896 Works On Farm Norfolk Stow Bardolph
Parish: Stow Bardolph
Address: Barroway Drive Downham
County: Norfolk


Birth
Name: JOHNSON, Ronald Frederick
Registration district: Downham
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1909
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 290

Re: Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Posted: 25 Jan 2013 9:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jan 2013 3:21PM GMT
Surnames: Johnson
Thanks so much for the info. I can't imagine why he wasn't
living with his family as I can't see a mother giving up a
child at the age of 10 (though I czn certainly understand
it if the kid was about 16) and leaving the country without
taking him with.
I couldn't remember the name STOW when I wrote the 1st
message. All the paper-work before that has if listed as
Downham Market, Downham, both registers also Downham,
NORFOLK. Then somewhere along the line it was explained
that it was changed to Stow Bardolph.
How current are the census listed. Hope it's not
71 Years as it is here. They just released the 1940 Census here.
They had anyother of the Johnsons listed as born in acouple of different locations, and with the common name of
John it's a challenge to find----especially if you don't
own a computer.

Thanks again for all your help.

Re: Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Posted: 25 Jan 2013 10:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
There is a 100 year embargo on census in England. We can only see up to 1911. After that you have to rely on electoral rolls, if you any idea of an address, or birth marriage and death records.

Have you got any census records?

Re: Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Posted: 1 Feb 2013 9:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
He was born in Downham, Norfolk, probably near or in Downham Market, in 1879. He was with his parents, Charles & Eliza"Digby" Johnson in 1881, same area, Barroway Drove, but by 1891 he was living with his maternal grandparents, (Frederick Digby and Emma, who may have been a Preston) in Stow Bardolph, Wiggenhall, ecclesiatical parish Downham Market. Living same place in 1901 and that's where the trail stopped. Have nothing on marriage or death.
His grandfather Frederick died Dec 12th, 1919, probate Norwich, no widow listed. I wondered if Fred Johnson eventually came to Chicago, but I haven't found anything on him here.
Thanks for any info you could pass on

Re: Frederick JOHNSON born 1879, lived in in Downham Market

Posted: 1 Feb 2013 10:30PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Edited: 2 Feb 2013 8:46PM GMT
1911 Frederick Johnson was married and still living in the same area

JOHNSON, Frederick Head Married M 33 1878 Farmer Norfolk Stow Bardolph
JOHNSON, Elizabeth Wife Married4 years F 27 1884 Ramsey Huntingdonshire
JOHNSON, Ronald Son Single M 1 1910 Norfolk Stow Bardolph
WEBB, Walter Servant Single M 15 1896 Works On Farm Norfolk Stow Bardolph
Parish: Stow Bardolph
Address: Barroway Drive Downham
County: Norfolk


MARRIAGE
Name: JOHNSON, Frederick James
Registration district: Downham
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1906
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 952
MarriageFinder™: Frederick James Johnson married one of the following people
TATT, Lilly
TIFFEN, Beatrice Elizabeth

BIRTH
Name: JOHNSON, Ronald Frederick
Registration district: Downham
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1909
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 4B
Page no:290


MarriageFinder™: Ronald F Johnson married Gladys Williams [?]
Name: JOHNSON, Ronald F
Registration district: Downham
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1932
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name Williams
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 901

MarriageFinder™: Ronald F Johnson married Hilda Holman [?]
Name: JOHNSON, Ronald F
Registration district: Downham
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1945
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Holman
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 1090

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