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AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 23 Apr 2003 1:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2003 6:00AM GMT
Surnames: Christineck, Christinneck, Christineke, Kristinek, Krystinek
I am researching my gggg grandfather Johann Andreas Christineck's (born 1684 to 1822) family who were born in Brandenburg, Germany area and emigrated in late 1700's to St. Petersburg, Rjabova & Neu Saratovka, Russia. Karl Ludwig Christineck was a great painter and had an art academy in St. Petersburg. 8 Christinecks are listed on the Amburger Projekt List as going to Russia. They were German Lutherans and military officers. Jeanne Lorf Linley

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 19 May 2006 10:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christineck, Christinneck, Polster, Stein, Paul, Michaelis, Hosbach, Deterling, Thom
I need help in researching Christinecks who were born in Brandenburg, Germany area and then emigrated to St. Petersburg, Russia.
8 Christinecks are listed on the Amburger Projekt List and I am searching for any information about them.

Karl Ludwig Christineck was a famous painter in St. Petersburg. He painted Catharine the Great and her son Alexie's portraits plus many nobilities portraits in St. Petersburg. He taught painting and also painted frescos in churches. I am searching for any information about him and his descendants. Perhaps they left Russia and immigrated to US or back to Brandenburg area. I believe Karl was my great great great great grandfather Johann Andreas Christineck's relative.

Johann Andreas Christineck also went to Russia but returned to Haseloff and Dahnsdorf, Brandenburg

Can anyone help me find out more about this Amburger Projekt list?

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 14 Dec 2010 6:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christeneck Christinec Freedericksz
My ggg grandfather was Baron Ivan Yurievitch Freedericksz.He was born in 1723 died 1779.He was court banker under Catherine the Great of Russia, married to Regina Luise Christeneck ,born 23/5/1735 died 15/3/1821.They had 9 children . My family descend from their son Ivan Ivanovitch & his wife Daria Fokine .There is a portrait of Baron Ivan Yurievitch Freedericksz done by Carl Ludwig Christinec. You can see it on http://www.artnet/708346/carl-ludwig-christinec.html
I would like to know more about Regina Luise Christeneck , how was she related to Carl Ludwig ?

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 15 Dec 2010 2:44AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christineck, Mueller, Michaelis, Paul, Polster, Stein, Lorf, Christinnecke,
So glad to hear from you!! There were 13 Christinecks listed on the Amburger Projekt website, including your ggg grandmother and my ancestor Johann Andreas Christineck born 1684. They are a mystery to me. I have found Johann's birth in Lubnitz, Brandenburg 1684. He had a first wife but I have not found that record. I have found only his second marriage listed in 1733 in Haseloff, Brandenburg (close to Lubnitz) listing him as a "widower" and age 49 in 1733 when he married Christiane Elisabeth Michaelis who was born 1714 in nearby Jessen, Schweinitz, in Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany. My grandfather wrote in 1912 that his ancestor was "Prince Christineck", losing an estate and escaped "a duel in Austria"! I have traced the Christinecks back to 1650 in Lubnitz/Haseloff/Dahnsdorf in Brandenburg, Germany. I have also found letters written by an ancestor stating Queen Christina of Sweden was possibly involved with Christinecks in 1650!

Karl was possibly a brother, cousin or nephew of my Johann Andreas. I have researching this for twenty years and it's still a mystery for me. I knew Freedericksz was married to Regina Luise Christineck. Where are you from?

Please write to me at:
jeannelinley2000@yahoo.com
I have received materials from Amburger Projekt.

Warm greetings from Pompano Beach, Florida.

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 11 Sep 2012 10:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christineck, Mueller, Michaelis, Paul, Polster, Stein, Lorf, Christinnecke,
I just found your message (9/11/2012!) Where was your ggg grandfather Freedericksz born? I found his name on the Amburger Projekt List along with 13 Christinecks, including my gggg grandfather Johann Andreas Christineck born 1684 in Lubnitz near Belzig, Brandenburg, Germany. I think all the Christinecks are related. I am searching for Johann Andreas Christineck's "first" wife as he married his second wife in 1733 in Haseloff, Brandenburg when he was a 49 year old widower and apparently came back from Russia. I am still searching for Johann Andreas Christineck's first wife.

My grandfather wrote in a 1912 family history that the Christineck family were nobility and were princes. Johann Andreas fled his estate with a duel and escaped. What do you know about the Freedericksz family? Did they own property in Russia or Austro-Hungarian Empire? Karl Ludwig Christineck was also listed with 13 Christinecks together on the Amburger Projekt List as going to Russia.

Please contact me:
Jeanne Lorf Linley Harding
jeannelinley2000@yahoo.com

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 26 Jul 2014 9:55PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Christineck
Ifound you request in http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/ Although it is some years ago, perhaps you would be still interested in this info;

Carl Ludwig was de elder brother of Regina Christineck Freedericksz.

Carl-Ludwig Johann Christineck
(1732/3 - 1792/94)


Christinek Carl Ludwig war russische Maler deutscher Herkunft. Geboren im Jahre 1732 seine Familie besass in Russland ein kleines Unternehmen. Er erhielt seine künstlerische Ausbildung in St. Petersburg, mit der Hilfe und Unterstützung der deutschen Burschenschaften. Einer seiner Mentoren war Luke Conrad Pfandtselt deutscher Maler, Restaurator und Hausmeister der Hermitage Gemäldegallerie.
Er besass in St. Petersburg ein großes Haus mit Garten. Alle ihre Kinder waren russische Staatsbürger und traten in den russischen Staatsdienst.
Im Jahre 1761 traf Christineck -der Einloggen Zakharovich genannt wurde- die Vorarbeiten für ein Mosaik -Muster auf Karton für "Die Schlacht bei Poltawa" , in der Werkstatt von Michail Lomonossow, diesmal mit dem Künstler durchgeführt´Dadurch wurde sein Schaffen bei dem St. Petersburger Publikum bekannt. Christinek arbeitete sein ganzes Leben lang in St. Petersburg, vor allem als Porträtist. Neben den Porträts von Adeligen und hochrangige Regierungsbeamte, porträtierte Christineck gerne auch Personenn des mittleren Adels, Intelektuelle, Offiziere und Mitglieder der deutschen Kolonie aus St. Petersburg.
Laut Professor Jakob Staehelin, Direktor der Akademie der Bildenden Künste in St. Petersburg,war Karl Ludwig Christinek ein "guter Stadt Maler und Porträtist mit Glück".
Er war in der Regel bescheiden, ohne protzige Pracht, in Übereinstimmung mit den Kanonen, voll von strengen und präzisen Pinsel geschrieben. Die Farbe in den Werken Karl Ludwig Christinek war manchmal hart, immer streng innerhalb seiner Grenzen, ohne feinen Nuancen, ohne besondere Tiefe und Reichtum der Farbe wie zum Beispiel das Porträt des Grafen Alexej G. Bobrinsky (1769 , Staatliche Eremitage , St. Petersburg). Manchmal malte Karl Ludwig Christinek Porträts , in zusammenarbeit anderer Künstler. So zum Beispiel vollendete er das Porträt von Katharina II. (1780, Staatliches Historisches Museum, Moskau ) des französischen Malers Alexander Roslin. Wie bekannt ist, war die Kaiserin mit dem pariser Künstler unzufrieden.
Seine wichtigsten Porträts war jene des Fürsten Michail Michailowitsch Golizyn (1763 , Russisches Museum) beachten, des Chefankläger des Senats, Graf Fjodor Grigorjewitsch Orlow (1768 Maritime Art Gallery), des Generalstaatsanwalt, Prinz Alexander Alexejewitsch Viazemsky (1768, Tretjakow-Galerie) , des Schriftstellers Adam Olsufyeva Wassiljewitsch (1773), des Admirals Samuel Greig Karlovic (1775, beide Gemälde im Russischen Museum), des Staatssekretärs der Kaiserin Ivan Kozlov (1788, Museum von Tropinin und Moskau Künstler seiner Zeit). Eines der besten seiner Werke gilt das Porträt des Grafen Alexej Orlov - Chesmensky G. (1779, Staatliche Tretjakow-Galerie, Moskau), in dem er nach der Pensionierung gezeigt wird. Wie die damaloge Portraitnorm vorschrieb, wird er in der Admiralsuniform mit dem Orden ersten Grades des Heiligen Andreas, St. Alexander Newski und George porträtiert. Das Bildt vermittelt perfekt die komplexe Natur der Catherine Würdenträger.
Im Jahre 1785 reichte er "Porträt von Mutter" an die Akademie der bildenden Künste ein und wurde als in der Wissenschaft "bezeichnet ." Im folgenden Jahr nahm er an dem Wettbewerbsprogramm für Erlangung des Akademiker Titel und präsentierte sein "Porträt des Conrektors der Akademie der Künste, Architekt Yuri Felten Matveevitch" (Staatliches Russisches Museum), aber der Wahlgang fand nicht statt und damit erhielt er nicht den Titel des akademischen Künstlers. Karl Ludwig Christinek starb im Jahre 1794 in St. Petersburg.
Nach dem Tod des Meisters kamen die langen Jahre der fast vollständige Vergessenheit. In der Zwischenzeit bis in unsere Tage überleben etwa hundert seiner Gemälde in Galerien und privaten Sammlungen. In der zweiten Hälfte des XVIII Jahrhundert, fand seine Popularität die Anerkennung von seinen Zeitgenossen und Kritiker. Neben dem russischen Eremitage Museum und der Tretjakow-Galerie werden seine Werke im Historischen Museum Wladiwostok und dem staatlichen Puschkin-Museum in Moskau, sowie in Museumssammlungen aufbewahrt (Kirov, Kostroma, Minsk, Rostow-am -Don, Rybinsk , Smolensk, Twer, Tomsk).








1)Friedrich Cristos Christineck born 1650-9 in nearby Lubnitz, Brandenburg
2)Johann Andreas Christineck born 1684 in Haseloff, Brandenburg, Germany, near Belzig and Brandenburg. Johann Andreas went to Russia in early 1700's but he returned to Haseloff, Brandenburg, Germany. He was widowed and married his "second" wife Christiane Elisabeth Michaelis who was born in 1714 in Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany, when he was 49, in 1733 in Haseloff, Brandenburg. He's "first" wife is unknown.
3) Karl Ludwig Johann Christineck (1732/3 - 1792/94)



All of my Christineck family were schoolteachers and Lutherans. They were very active in the church.
I suspect nobility in this family as my grandfather wrote a family history in 1912 saying they were Princes and had an estate they lost after a duel.
Carl was also known in Russia as LOGGIN KHRISTINEK and Karl Christineck. He was born 1750 and died 1799. He painted a portrait of Empress Catherine on commission from the Imperial Academy of Sciences and he owned various galleries 1770-74 next to the Galernoe Courtyard: 1775-78 on Voznesesnsk Street; 1783-89 Peterburg district. Other family members were: Major Johann Friedrich Christineck lived 1786-1802 in Rjabova and Neu Saratovka and Taurischen Palace in 1822, Johann Zacharias Christineck also lived 1775-1787 Rjabova, Russia. Karl Nikolaus Christineck was born in St. Petersburg, Russia 1762 and died 1797 in Rjabovo. The Christinecks originally came from Brandenburg, Germany.
My Kristinek (Christineck) ancestors were born near Brandenburg, Germany in Lubnitz, Haseloff, Dahnsdorf and Belzig 1650-1900. 13 Christinecks went to Russia in early 1700s as I found them posted on "The Amburger Projekt" list. My gggg grandfather was Johann Andreas Christineck and he attended the Hale-Wittenberg University in 1701. He married Christiane Elisabeth Michaelis (born 1714) in 1733 in Haseloff, Brandenburg, Germany, when he was a "49 year old widower". I have been unable to find his "first" wife. Is it possible he wed his first wife in Russia and she died in St. Petersburg, Russia? My grandfather said he was a Prince. Some of the Christinecks lived in the Taurischen Palace in St. Petersburg. These are some of my many questions!

Best regards,

Michael Ritter

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 28 Jul 2014 10:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christineck, Christinecke, Mueller, Michaelis, Paul, Von Zerbst, Polster, Stein, Lorf, Christinnecke,
Michael...Thank you for writing a message about my Christineck ancestors. It gave me a little more information. Thank you so much. I am trying to find a connection of Karl Ludwig Christineck and the 13 Christinecks who went to Russia in early 1700's, to my great great great great grandfather Johann Andreas Christineck who was born near Brandenburg, Germany in 1684. It is not a common name. My Christineck ancestors were born in Lubnitz, Haseloff and Belzig, Brandenburg, Germany.

Catharine the Great was also born in the same area of Sachsen,Germany as the ancestors of my great great grandfather Johann Christoph Lorf (who married a Christineck). His ancestors were Hans Lorff and wife Catarina Dorothea von Zerbst from Hundeluft, and Kliecken by Coswig-Anhalt, Germany. Is there a place where birth records for Karl Ludwig Johann Christineck would be recorded? Sachsen. I am searching for the birthplace of Karl Ludwig Christineck in Germany and who his parents were. How can I find this out?

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 28 Jul 2014 11:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christineck, Christinecke, Mueller, Michaelis, Paul, Von Zerbst, Polster, Stein, Lorf, Christinnecke,
Regina Luise Christeneck Freedericksz and Carl Ludwig Christeneck were sister and brother.

Re: AMBURGER PROJEKT & Christinecks born in Brandenburg, Germany immigrated to St. Petersburg, Rjabova, & Neu Saratovka, Russia

Posted: 29 Jul 2014 2:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Christineck, Christinecke, Mueller, Michaelis, Paul, Von Zerbst, Polster, Stein, Lorf, Christinnecke,
Regina Luise Christeneck was sister to Carl Ludwig Christeneck. She was born in 1735 but WHERE...as I am searching for the place Carl was born. Were they born in Brandenburg area of Germany??? My 4x grandfather was Johann Andreas Christineck born in Lubnitz, Brandenburg, Germany in 1684. My grandfather left a family history he wrote in 1912 saying the Christenecks were nobility/Princes. Do you know if this might be true of Regina?
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