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Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Pam (View posts)
Posted: 15 Mar 2005 8:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
My ancestor, Duncan Stewart, arrived in Mass. about 1650/51, reportedly aboard the UNITY, a prisoner from the Battle of Dunbar. Attempting to confirm ties to the Stewarts of Appin.
Does anyone know what happened to the following Stewarts of Appin?
Duncan Mor Stewart, 8th of Appin

Duncan, 2nd of Ardsheal

Alexander, 4th of Invernahyle

Did they fight in the Battle of Dunbar? Did they come home?
Thank you so very much for your help.
Pam

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 1:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Pam

How are you coming with this. I have some Appin info and many contacts. Maybe I can help. Have you had DNA tested on any of your male Stewarts?

Cheers
Mike Stewart
mtstew@mac.com

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 5:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stewart/Stuart - Winchester/Winchurst
I had given up. I hired David Dobson for a small fortune and he found nothing. Hired genealogists on this side of the lake and they found nothing. Went to Edinborough, both the libraries and the Stewart Society, and found nothing conclusive. The Appin clan did not reply to my queries. I have some interesting original, hand-made family trees on parchment with notes in the margins that the staff at the Stewart Soc. gave me (please don't turn them in).
As of five years ago, none of the surviving male Duncan Stewart descendants would submit to DNA testing.
I had taken a prolonged break until your email appeared.
Thanks for the surprise and your interest. Pam Gould

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 6:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry about all of that trouble. First, I have good news regarding the DNA on the Adrsheal line, it has been done. Mine is a very close match too. We suspect our common ancestor is John 4th of Ardsheal. More on that another time.

I am finding that the DNA math is best for narrowing focus on research. It will eliminate many possibilities and dial into a specific century and region. I would strongly recommend this avenue to get started again. FamilytreeDNA.com

Any chance you have a scan of an early image of Duncan, his sons or grandsons? Also, you wouldn't still have that tree you mentioned do you?

Cheers,
Mike
San Diego



Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 6:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Mike,
Thanks for the quick reply. I am a bit fuzzy on how the Ardrsheal line and the Stewarts of Appin line up. Nonetheless your news sounds as though it may be encouraging.
With your urging, I'll investigate the site you mentioned.
I have no image of Duncan from the 1600's. There are a number of court records where he is mentioned. I even have the name of the man to whom he was indentured in Ipswich MA - George Hadley. Have contacted his descendants to see if they have any records. None found.
I will have to think if I have any photo's of his grandsons but yes, I do have that fragile family tree. It was evidently put together by another relative of ours (?) many years ago.
At the Stewart Society in Edinborough, and as you have probably found online, there are many of us in search of a thread linking our Duncan Stewart to his home in Scotland.
Pam Gould - Maui HI

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 12:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Pam,
There is a Stewart DNA Yahoo Group. If you joined it, you could post a picture of the Family Tree that you have and make it available to others for their research.
Please consider joining.
Kathi Bobb
bobbkat1@aol.com

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 5:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Good point, Kat! Also, it would be worthy to mention there are 3 or 4 clan Stewart Facebook groups that are good for queries and networking.

Cheers
Mike Stewart

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 3 Feb 2010 5:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Kathi,
Thanks for your support. I would join the Stewart DNA group but, as I understand it, male to male descendant DNA is required for conclusive lineage results. We have no willing men in our tree so far.
The 'family tree' is old and very large. Written on parchment paper probably in the mid 1900's and covering only the more ancient lines. It appears to be trying to link Duncan Stewart of Ipswich to the Stewarts of Appin.
Not possible nor would it be very readable to copy.
If there is a head of your group that I can trust to read and share it, I could find it and send it as long as it's returned. Pam Gould







Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 3 Feb 2010 5:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, for the ideas, Mike.
I have long ago given up on confirming Duncan's Scottish links.
Professionals in Scotland have said that so many records have been lost that sometimes you must surrender to that fact.
Here in the U.S.the NEHGS has done a lot of work and could find nothing. Others of us have poked and read and reviewed documents for so many years that, unless we can confirm a new source here or in Scotland I must confess, I cannot get excited.
Yours in digging, Pam

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

Posted: 3 Feb 2010 11:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Pam, you are correct that the Stewart participant must be from an all male bloodline.
I wonder if someone with a good digital camera could take a picture of your document. I would be afraid to try the snailmail route. Something could happen to it.
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