Just reviewed my posts to you the other night and noticed a mistake on my part. I transposed some letters on the LDS site addy; that's what I get for staying up sooo late! It's familysearch.org
Also checked the other reply to your post and see that you have a definite burial in St. Francis Cemetery in Pawtucket. St. Francis is in the Find A Grave database. You could add Michael to the St. Francis database and then request a photo. there a volunteers who go out to cemeteries, take a photo and post it to the individual on Find A Grave. Yup, another site registration to do this but as with the Ellis site, it too is free. If no stone can be found there could be two reasons.
1. Some of the older graves for folks of the first generation in the US don't have stones as is the case with two of my family burials in St. Francis. I suspect that there just wasn't enough spare cash at the time and by the time the family had begun to get a bit more flush, those alive simply didn't know or had forgotten that the ancestors didn't have a stone. Michael is only 15yrs ago so I doubt that this would be the case.
2. Certain areas within St. Francis allow only flat, flush with the surface stones. Those have a tendency to sink through years of successive freeze/thaw cycles. The RI Catholic Cemeteries don't allow any kind of subterrian footing which might slow down the sinking process for these stones. The cemeteries will, however, reset a sinking stone, all you have to do is ask.
Before requesting a photo on Find A Grave, I'd call St. Francis and see if my other Orlandi's are buried there and ask what sort of stone is allowed in those areas. That way if you find that Giovanni and Angelina are buried in St. Francis, are in an area with the flat stones and a Find A Grave photo volunteer comes back and says there was no stone, you could call the cemetery and ask them to go out to the grave and search for a sunken stone. If they find one, they will reset it; if not, you'll know that the ancestors have no grave marker and the family members now alive might want to get one for them. The crew at St. Francis was pretty accomodating when I initally was hunting for family I discovered was buried there.
Mariani Funeral Home is still in the Providence phonebook therefore, still in business. Many families in this area tend to use the same funeral home for sucessive funerals. You could call them and inquire if they handled Giovanni's funeral in 1958. If they did, you could inquire about the possibility of getting copies of his file. There might be some information in there that was not in the obit. Some funeral homes will accomodate requests like this, some won't but it only costs a phone call to find out. Mariani AA & Son, Inc. (undertakers) aka Mariani Funeral Home, 200 Hawkins St. Providence, RI 02904 (401) 861-5432.
St. Anthony Church, Mineral Spring Avenue (aka RI Rt. 15) is in North Providence just to the west of Woodward Rd. On a map, look halfway between RI north - south Rt.'s 7 & 146 and you'lll find Woodward Rd. St. Anthony's is on the north side of Mineral Spring, corner of Pope St. and Mineral Spring.
Pawtucket, Providence, North Providence...I know it sounds as if your family is all over the state but in reality, RI is a small place and the locations for your Orlandi family are all within about a 3 or 4 mile radius of each other. The only thing that makes getting from here to there take a bit of time isn't the distance, it's the damn traffic!
Google Maps has good hybrid views of your areas of interest and you can zoom in right to the highest resolution. Once you Google the four locations so you get a position marker for each - 28 Argol, St. Francis Cemetery, 200 Hawkins St. and St. Anthony Church and get a visual feel for their locations, you'll see on the larger map view just how close the 4 places are in relation to each other. Also, it's kind of a cool and cheap way of visiting the locations and seeing especially the Argol addresses without having to travel.http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&a...
Puttered around on Ancestry a bit more with your Orlandi's. Some other sites, too.
United States Obituary Collection database - 2 hits for Shirley A. (Orlandi) Barbato. First hit was Projo but required registration to view and they want to know too damn much so I've never registered. Second hit provided the same obit but without registration:
Shirley A. (Orlandi) Barbato
BARBATO, Shirley A. (Orlandi) December 24, 2004. Beloved wife of the late Raymond Barbato, Sr. Loving mother of Valerie Lee, Cathleen Barbato and Raymond Barbato, Jr. Loving sister of Helen Marrocco, Mary Levesque, Elizabeth Spino, John Orlandi, William Orlandi, George Orlandi, Ralph Orlandi and the late Anna Lisa, Angela Levesque, Anthony Orlandi, Michael Orlandi and Raymond Orlandi. Cherished grandmother of Dillon Renzi and Jesse Lee. Residence: Providence. Funeral Tuesday at 8 a.m. in A. A. MARIANI & SON FUNERAL HOME, 200 Hawkins Street, Providence followed by a Mass of Christian Burial at 9 a.m. in St. Agnes Church, Chatham Street, Providence. Visitation Monday 4-7 p.m.
Published in The Providence Journal from 12/26/2004 - 12/27/2004.
U.S. Veterans Cemeteries, ca.1800-2006 database:
Raymond B Orlandi
Service Info.: TEC 5 US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1916
Death Date: 22 Sep 1998
Cemetery: Rhode Island Veterans Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 301 South County Trail Exeter, RI 02822
Buried At: Section E-6 Site 366
* To check w/o Ancestry for other family burials in US Veterans' cemeteries use this website: http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1
Veterans' burials overseas: http://www.abmc.gov/home.php
A quick check of the US Vet's site shows Raymond but no Maria so presumably his wife is still alive. She's not in the white pages so must have an unpublished number or just a cell phone.
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 database - Raymond B Orlandi b. 1916 Enlistment Date: 28 Feb 1945
Enlistment State: Massachusetts Enlistment City: Fort Banks Boston Branch: No branch assignment Branch Code: No branch assignment Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Education: Grammar school Civil Occupation: Tracktor Driver* or Truck Driver, Heavy or Chauffeur or Truck Driver, Light An asterisk (*) appearing after a job title indicates that a trade test for the particular occupation will be found in the United States Employment Service Manual, Oral Trade Test
Marital Status: Married Height: 68 Weight: 460 (Note - some of this info may be inaccurate. This database had my 5'1" Mom as being 7'3" tall, divorced with dependents ~ she was unmarried, met & married Dad in the Army and had me after they were discharged)
William V Orlandi b. 1921 Enlistment Date: 24 Feb 1941
Enlistment State: Rhode Island Enlistment City: Providence
Branch: Field Artillery Branch Code: Field Artillery
Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Component: National Guard (Officers, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)
Source: National Guard Education: 1 year of high school
Civil Occupation: Tracktor Driver* or Truck Driver, Heavy or Chauffeur or Truck Driver, Light An asterisk (*) appearing after a job title indicates that a trade test for the particular occupation will be found in the United States Employment Service Manual, Oral Trade Test
Marital Status: Single, without dependents Height: 67 Weight: 136
Social Security Death Index database
Anna Lisa SSN: 037-03-9996 Last Residence: 02909 Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States of America Born: 1 Jan 1914
Last Benefit: 02909 Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States of America Died: 25 Feb 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: Rhode Island (Before 1951)
Last Residence: 02904 Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States of America
Born: 31 Aug 1931
Died: 17 Dec 2000
State (Year) SSN issued: Rhode Island (Before 1951 )
Shirley A. Barbato
Last Residence: 02904 Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States of America
Born: 16 Nov 1937
Last Benefit: 02904 Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States of America
Died: 24 Dec 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: Rhode Island (1951-1952 )http://www.addresses.com/results.php?ReportType=34&aid=&...
Here is the extent of the free content on this site:
Gloria J Orlandi George G Orlandi (Age 78 Age 80)North Providence
Joshua Orlandi (Age 33)Providence
Juan A Orlandi (Age 63)Providence (don't think this one is yours)
Teresa Orlandi Theresa Orlandi (Age 89 Age 89)Providence
Concetta R Orlandi (Age 95)North Providence (Note- Michael's wife)
SHIRLEY A BARBATO (Age: 69) PREVIOUS CITIES: PROVIDENCE, RI BRISTOL, RI WARWICK, RI RELATIVES: RAYMOND BARBATO, CATHLEEN BARBATO, VALERIE BARBATO, LOUISA BARBATO (database must be pre 2004 which is when she died and Valerie was at that time a LEE)
RAYMOND BARBATO (Age: 69)PREVIOUS CITIES: BRISTOL, RI PROVIDENCE, RI WARWICK, RI WEST WARWICK, RI RELATIVES: SHIRLEY A BARBATO, CATHLEEN BARBATO, LOUISA BARBATO, VALERIE BARBATO
RAYMOND BARBATO BRISTOL, RI
VALERIE BARBATO (Age: 66) PREVIOUS CITIES: BRISTOL, RI PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: RAYMOND BARBATO, SHIRLEY A BARBATO, CATHLEEN BARBATO (One gooffed up database??...if Valerie is Shirley's daughter per obit, then with this age this Valerie must be a sister-in-law to Shirley)
LOUISA BARBATO (Age: 68)PREVIOUS CITIES: WARWICK, RI
PROVIDENCE, RI N KINGSTOWN, RI RELATIVES: SHIRLEY A BARBATO, RAYMOND BARBATO (With this age, must be a sister-in-law)
LOUISA BARBATO (Age: 45) PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: JO BARBATO, RICHARD A BARBATO, ROSEANN BARBATO, JOANNE BARBATO, JOAN AN BARBATO (Must be a dau to elder Louisa and a neice to Shirley)
CATHLEEN BARBATO (Age: 36)PREVIOUS CITIES: BRISTOL, RI
CRANSTON, RI PROVIDENCE, RI PAWTUCKET, RI RELATIVES: RAYMOND BARBATO, SHIRLEY A BARBATO, VALERIE BARBATO
WILLIAM A. ORLANDI 11 NOB CT WESTERLY, RI 2891
JOHN ORLANDI 122 DYE HILL RD HOPKINTON, RI 2832
GEORGE G. ORLANDI 40 ORCHARD ST NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI 2911
(401) 231-6156 PREVIOUS ADDRESSES:1 Address in CITRUS SPRINGS, FL 1 Address in NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI
ANGELINA ORLANDI 25 NARDOLILLO ST JOHNSTON, RI 2919
(401) 943-6169 PREVIOUS ADDRESSES: 1 Address in WARWICK, RI 1 Address in JOHNSTON, RI
RALPH E. ORLANDI 64 ALLEN AVE NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI 2911
(401) 231-0727 PREVIOUS ADDRESSES: 1 Address in PROVIDENCE, RI; 1 Address in HOPE, RI; 1 Address in COVENTRY, RI; 1 Address in NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI
ANGELINA C ORLANDI (Age: 90)PREVIOUS CITIES:JOHNSTON, RI
WARWICK, RI; RELATIVES: JOSHUA ORLANDI RAYMOND B ORLANDI (Hmm, looks like she lived with Raymond til his death, now lives with Joshua)
JOSHUA ORLANDI (Age: 32)PREVIOUS CITIES: WARWICK, RI, FALL RIVER, MA, CRANSTON, RI, PROVIDENCE, RI, SWANSEA, MA, RIVERSIDE, RI, NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI RELATIVES: MICHAEL ORLANDI, ANTHONY ORLANDI, ROY R ORLANDI, DIANE DIA ORLANDI, JUSTIN ORLANDI, RAYMOND B ORLANDI, ANGELINA C ORLANDI
MICHAEL ORLANDI PREVIOUS CITIES: WAKEFIELD, RI, WARWICK, RI, SHARON, MA, WYOMING, RI, NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI RELATIVES: DIANE DIA ORLANDI, ROY R ORLANDI, MEGHAN ORLANDI, JOSHUA ORLANDI
MEGHAN C ORLANDI (Age: 29) PREVIOUS CITIES: WARWICK, RI, WAKEFIELD, RI, CRANSTON, RI, EVERETT, MA, WHITEHALL, PA RELATIVES: MICHAEL ORLANDI
(Several Michael's besides the one above)
MICHAEL ORLANDI (Age: 62) PROVIDENCE, RI
MICHAEL ORLANDI (Age: 31) NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI
MICHAEL F ORLANDI (Age: 29) PREVIOUS CITIES: PROVIDENCE, RI NEW MILFORD, CT WASHINGTON, DC PRINCETON, NJ PORTLAND, ME
MICHAEL ORLANDI (Age: 33) WARWICK, RI
MICHAEL ORLANDI PROVIDENCE, RI
MICHAEL D ORLANDI NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI
(OK, if these were mine I'd think the two Providence Michael's were the same man, Michael 31 & 33 were probably the same guy and I'd think that maybe Michael 29 could be the same as 31 & 33 but differing residencies reflect college or possibly military service of some sort.
JUSTIN ORLANDI WARWICK, RI RELATIVES: JOSHUA ORLANDI, RAYMOND B ORLANDI, ANGELINA C ORLANDI
ANTHONY EDWARD ORLANDI (Age: 32) PREVIOUS CITIES: WARWICK, RI, LOWELL, MA, VIRGINIA BEACH, VA RELATIVES: JOSHUA ORLANDI
ANTHONY ORLANDI PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: THERESA ORLANDI
TERESA O ORLANDI
ANTHONY F ORLANDI (Age: 86) PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: THERESA ORLANDI, TERESA O ORLANDI
THERESA ORLANDI (Age: 89)PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: THERESA ORLANDI, ANTHONY ORLANDI, TERESA O ORLANDI
TERESA O ORLANDI (Age: 88)PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: THERESA ORLANDI (I'd wager that Teresa O 88, Theresa and Theresa 89 are all the same lady just collected from different databases explaining the different spellings and ages.)
ROY R ORLANDI (Age: 51)PREVIOUS CITIES: WAKEFIELD, RI, WYOMING, RI, WARWICK, RI, NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI RELATIVES: DIANE D ORLANDI, MICHAEL ORLANDI, JOSHUA ORLANDI
DIANE DIA ORLANDI (Age: 50) PREVIOUS CITIES: WAKEFIELD, RI WYOMING, RI WARWICK, RI NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI SOUTH KINGSTOWN, RI (Wakefield is a village in S. Kingstown) RELATIVES: MICHAEL ORLANDI, ROY R ORLANDI, JOSHUA ORLANDI
WILLIAM A ORLANDI PREVIOUS CITIES: WESTERLY, RI; PAWCATUCK, CT; CAMBRIDGE, MA RELATIVES: JO ORLANDI
WILLIAM V ORLANDI CRANSTON, RI RELATIVES: WM ORLANDI
JOHN B ORLANDI (Age: 67)PREVIOUS CITIES: HOPKINTON, RI
HOPE VALLEY, RI (Actually Hope Valley is a village within the town of Hopkinton) RELATIVES: MARTHA Y ORLANDI
JOHN JOSEPH ORLANDI (Age: 44) PREVIOUS CITIES: COVENTRY, RI
MARTHA Y ORLANDI (Age: 67) HOPE VALLEY, RI RELATIVES: JOHN B ORLANDI
GEORGE J ORLANDI (Age: 83)PREVIOUS CITIES: NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI; PLAINVILLE, MA; YONKERS, NY; FARMINGHAN, MA; CHERRY HILL, NJ RELATIVES: GIORGIO ORLANDI, RONALD ORLANDI, GLORIA J ORLANDI
GEORGE G ORLANDI (Age: 80)NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI (Could be the same Geo; no way of knowing what databases were used and your Geo did appear on the censuses as both J and G if I'm remembering correctly from the other night.)
GLORIA J ORLANDI (Age: 80)N PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: GEORGE J ORLANDI, GIORGIO ORLANDI
GLORIA J ORLANDI (Age: 78) NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI
GIORGIO ORLANDI (Age: 83)N PROVIDENCE, RI PLAINVILLE, MA YONKERS, NY RELATIVES: GEORGE J ORLANDI, GLORIA J ORLANDI
RALPH E ORLANDI NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI
RALPH ORLANDI COVENTRY, RI
RALPH E ORLANDI (Age: 43) PREVIOUS CITIES: NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI; COVENTRY, RI; PROVIDENCE, RI; HOPE, RI (Not the same as Hope Valley. This Hope is a village in the town of Scituate) RELATIVES: ROSEMARIE ORLANDI, MARY ORLANDI, RALF E ORLANDI
ROSEMARIE ORLANDI (Age: 46) PREVIOUS CITIES: NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI HOPE, RI COVENTRY, RI PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: RALPH ORLANDI, RALF E ORLANDI, MARY ORLANDI
RALF E ORLANDI (Age: 43)PREVIOUS CITIES: NORTH PROVIDENCE, RI COVENTRY, RI RELATIVES: ROSEMARIE ORLANDI, RALPH E ORLANDI, MARY ORLANDI
MARY ORLANDI (Age: 78)N PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: RALPH E ORLANDI, ROSEMARIE ORLANDI, RALF E ORLANDI
E SPINO 30 ITALY ST PROVIDENCE, RI 2908
(401) 751-5018 (Note - Italy St. is where Angelina lived after Giovanni died; search for Elizabeth yielded this)
ELIZABETH M SPINO (Age: 75)PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: BETTY M SPINO, LORI A SPINO, DAVID J SPINO, MICHAEL D SPINO
BETTY M SPINO (Age: 75)PREVIOUS CITIES: JOHNSTON, RI
PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES:ELIZABETH M SPINO,DAVID J SPINO, LORI A SPINO, MICHAEL D SPINO, ROBERT S SPINO, ROBT T SPINO, LAURA L SPINO, PAULA M SPINO
LORI A SPINO (Age: 45)PREVIOUS CITIES: PROVIDENCE, RI
JOHNSTON, RI SMITHFIELD, RI RELATIVES:MICHAEL D SPINO, JEAN M SPINO, DAVID J SPINO, BETTY M SPINO,ELIZABETH M SPINO, M J SPINO
M J SPINO & MICHAEL D. SPINO yield MICHAEL J SPINO (Age: 52)JOHNSTON, RI RELATIVES: MICHAEL J SPINO, LORI A SPINO, JEAN M SPINO, DAVID J SPINO, LAURA L SPINO, BROS SPINO, ELIZABETH M SPINO
DAVID J SPINO (Age: 47)PREVIOUS CITIES: JOHNSTON, RI PROVIDENCE, RI SMITHFIELD, RI WALTHAM, MA RELATIVES: BETTY M SPINO, LORI A SPINO, ELIZABETH M SPINO, MICHAEL D SPINO, BROS SPINO, JEAN M SPINO, LAURA L SPINO, ROBERT T SPINO, ROBT T SPINO, PAULA M SPINO
BROS SPINO PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: MICHAEL D SPINO, DAVID J SPINO, JEAN M SPINO
JEAN M SPINO (Age: 62)PREVIOUS CITIES: JOHNSTON, RI TORRINGTON, CT BRISTOL, CT PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: DAVID J SPINO, MICHAEL D SPINO, BROS SPINO, LORI A SPINO
ROBERT S SPINO (Age: 50)PREVIOUS CITIES:JOHNSTON, RI
NORTH SMITHFIELD, RI RELATIVES: PAULA M SPINO, BETTY M SPINO, ROBT T SPINO, LAURA L SPINO, DAVID J SPINO
ROBERT T SPINO WARWICK, RI
ROBERT SPINO JOHNSTON, RI RELATIVES: PAULA SPINO
PAULA M SPINO (Age: 50)PREVIOUS CITIES:JOHNSTON, RI
NORTH SMITHFIELD, RI RELATIVES: ROBERT T SPINO, DAVID J SPINO, LAURA L SPINO, ROBERT SPINO
LAURA L SPINO (Age: 38)PREVIOUS CITIES: JOHNSTON, RI, PAWTUCKET, RI, PROVIDENCE, RI RELATIVES: MICHAEL D SPINO, DAVID J SPINO, ROBERT S SPINO, BETTY M SPINO, ROBT T SPINO, PAULA M SPINO
Anna Lisa - I don't think any of the 4 in this database are yours. Anna Orlandi Lisa would have been abt. 76y at death.
There is an Anna Lisa age 79y - already past your Anna's death age; Ann Dunlap Lisa - not unless you know of some Dunlaps in your family; Ann Butler Lisa 38 yrs - same comment as Dunlap; Ann StGermain Lisa - ditto. None of them give relatives.
RE: RI zip codes - these should all start with "0"
Providence white pages all area code 401:
Angelina 25 Nardolillo Jstn 02919 943-6169
Geo G 40 Orchrd N Providence 02911 231-6156
Ralph E 64 Allen Ave N Providence 02911 231-0727
Sharon 15 Higgins Sfld 02917 232-5014
Theresa 28 Argol Prov 02904 272-5168
Wm 85 Briggs Crns 02920 946-6805
Marrocco & Levesque - no female listings & don't know husbands or even if phones are published #'s.
Spino, E 30 Italy Prov 02908 751-5018
Lee- can't find Valerie and don't know hubby's name.
Barbato, Raymond, Jr. Bristol not in the Prov. white pages.
I looked up my Barone's My aunt had only one brother and he died early on so if there is a connection then maybe it that your Maria Barone will turn out to be a cousin to my aunt. My aunt's father's brother, her Uncle Giuseppe and Aunt Maria as newlyweds lived with my Aunt's family in 1910.
Well, this is quite a lot of information to digest so I'll be done for now.