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Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2010 4:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fragali/ Arcuri
Hello, I'm trying to research my father's side of the family, and I was wondering if anyone out there can help me.
My great grandfather Carmine Fragale was born about 1875 and his sister Rosa Caterina Fragale was born around 1883 in San Mauro Marchesato. Carmine immigrated to Raleigh county, West Virginia on May 27, 1903 and his sister on March 2, 1905.

Carmine married a Maria Teresa Arcuri and they had eight children. Sadly, grandpa was murdered doing the coal mining wars in early West Virginia.

II'd be so grateful if anyone could help me figure out who Carmine and Rosa's parents and other siblings were in Italy.

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2011 1:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fragale and Sansone
Hi, I am pretty sure I might be able to help you. I was searching through records of Ellis Island yesterday and found my grandmother's name - Rosa Caterina Fragale. Rosa supposedly traveled to America for an arranged marriage with my grandfather - Antonio Sansone. Together they had 7 children (and 2 or 3 babies who died at birth). My grandfather died in 1932 and my grandmother died in 1957. Sadly, I know nothing of their family in Italy. My grandfather worked as a storekeeper and also at some point for the railroad. They lived in various places in WV- at the time of my grandfather's death, they were living near Buckhannon, WV. My grandmother died in San Francisco - she had moved out there to live with one of her daughters sometime after WWII.

When did your gerat grandfather die? I would love to know who my extended family might be...

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2011 1:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, Yes, Yes!!!! We are the same family! Only I had Antonio as a Samson not Sansone.

My GreatGrandfather Carmine would die in 1917. He is Rosa's older brother. They also had two other brothers Pasquale and Vincenzo.

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2011 3:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sometime in the 1930s, the family "Americanized" the name to Samson. Apparently there was much prejudice and outright persecution shown to Italians in those days. They thought by changing the name, it would help.

So did Pasquale and Vincenzo immigrate to America or did they stay in Italy?

Follow this link to some old Samson(Sansone) family photos:
http://webpaiges.com/Sansone/

Let's see - what does that make us? Some sort of cousins removed or something?

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2011 10:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
I've searched high and low but have not been able to find anything out about the other siblings....

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2011 12:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Amazing! Is that Rosa in a couple of the older pics?

Rosa would have been my great grand Aunt....makes us 3rd cousins?

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 1 Nov 2011 11:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Rosa is the woman holding the baby on her lap along with two other men - one of whom would be Antonio. There is a later picture of her at her daughter's wedding - probably in the 1940s. She died in 1957 when I was 6 years old. My memories of her are vague. She spoke very little, broken English. She was very sweet and gentle.

Tell me more about your great-grandfather. What were the coal mining wars and how was he killed?

I had always been told that Rosa had come over to America to marry Antonio - it was a pre-arranged marriage. She was 20+ years younger than he was. Did your great-grandfather have anything to do with this arranged marriage? Did he bring Rosa to American? Do you know their parents' names in Italy?

My father was Angelo Samson (Sansone). He died at age 68 in 1982. He always told me that when he was very young, he remembers being awakened by his parents in the middle of the night. They all left their home and took only what they could carry. He said that the "Black Hand" had threatened my grandfather and the family. I wonder if that was at the same time your grandfather was killed....

I am 59 years old and live in Virginia.

Susie

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 2 Nov 2011 1:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Great Grandfather Carmine was murdered, but I've since found out that it wasn't from the mining wars. His death was in August 1917. Cause of death was gunshot wound.

Carmine and Rosa's parents were named Luigi Fragale and Marie Caterina Giacobbe all from San Mauro Marchesato, Italy. I've been reading Italian microfilms for the past year and have gathered a good deal of info on them. I'll be happy to share. :)

I wish I knew the details of Rosa's marriage...

Rosa came over in 1905 with my GGrandmother Maria Teresa Arcuri(GGCarmine's wife)and their young son Luigi. Carmine came over In 1902 with Maria's brother Leonardo.

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 2 Nov 2011 1:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
The photos that I shared with you came from my cousin Frank. Rosa lived with them when he was a little boy in San Francisco. It was there that she died. Frank's mother died a few years ago and he found the photos. Sadly, most were not marked. I wonder if any of them contain you GGCarmine and/or his family?

I do so appreciate you sharing with me. My father's family did not speak much of their upbringing. Sadly - they are all dead now.

I would love to hear what you have found out from Italy!

Susie

Re: Fragale family in San Mauro Marchesato, Italy

Posted: 2 Nov 2011 10:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Susie, what is your email address? I'll start showing you the documents of the family that I've gotten off the microfilms. I have births, deaths, and marriages. Sadly, I do not have Carmine's and Rosa's birth papers. The documents had lots of mildew and water damage by the time they were recorded onto the microfilms.
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