Search for content in message boards

Gabriel Wheldon

Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 5 Feb 2004 6:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Jan 2005 6:20AM GMT
Surnames: Wheldon
Looking for name of ship Gabriel Wheldon came to America on. Also looking for volume or document number or date of Tribunal Record where Wheldon was "kicked out" of Plymouth Plantation for marrying Margaret, an Indian. I am directly descended from their daughter RUTH WHELDON.

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 12 May 2004 5:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Whelden/Wheldon
Ruth,

Who are your grandparents? I am from the cape and would love to hear your research. We may be related!

Glen

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 2 Jul 2004 10:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
*NOTE GABRIEL WHELDON DID NOT MARRY ANY Wampanoag Indian!

I HAVE SPENT NUMOROUS HOURS SORTING OUT THE WAMPANOAG INDIAN MYTH AND ITS JUST THAT A MYTH, HIS FIRST WIFE WAS MARY
DAVIS AND THEY WERE MARRIED August 3, 1617 Arnold, Nottingham, England, Sealing Spouse 10 SEP 1986 in OGDEN. GABRIEL WHELDON MARRIED A SECOND WIFE MARGARET WHICH I HAVE CONVINCING EVIDENCE SHE WAS THE SISTER TO REVEREND MARMADUKE MATHEWS. IN WHICH AFTER GABRIELS DEATH, MARGARET RETURNED TO WALES WITH MARMADUKE AND HIS WIFE!

CHERRI TIMMER

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 3 Jul 2004 12:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Jan 2005 6:20AM GMT
Surnames: Wheldon, Taylor, Marchant, Lewis, Baldwin
What is your 'convincing evidence'? I have a Master's Degree in English, plus am working on a second Master's Degree in History, and all genealogical research must must documented. I have spent my life researching my family's genealogy. What is this that you claim about about the second marriage?
If he did not marry an Indian, why did Wheldon live outside of Plymouth, as deeds and other documents record? Did he choose to? From another source, Wheldon was was one of the first settlers in the area. Perhaps it was his wife wasn't "lily white", and he was an independent thinker.
I, for one, am proud of my Indian heritage. If it weren't for them, the Pilgrims would have perished. They were the original Americans, anyway.
But at the same time his daughter Catherine did marry Giles Hopkins, who came over on the Mayflower. Catherine was apparently from his first marriage. I descend from his daughter Ruth, and his second marriage.

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 3 Jul 2004 1:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry If I offend you, I was also very Proud of the Indian Heritage, but the fact is all the children of Gabriel Wheldon were born to his first wife. I knew with my findings this was going to make some very angry. I have spent numourous hours and have Lots of documented items I have located. First with his Marriage Record:

Gabriel Wheldon married Mary Davis
August 3, 1617 Arnold, Nottingham, England, Sealing
Source Information:
Batch Number: 8606630
Sheet: 18
Source Call No.: 1396167 Type: Film

Spouse 10 SEP 1986 in OGDEN. Obtained this from the only
Ancestry Family Tree at Ancestry.com with the proper information, I checked this file. You can also locate this only file in you Type in Gabriel Wheldon and Put in Mary Davis as spouse you will find it.

I also am very aware of how important Indian Tribes are in our country, and the suffering they have endured since are arrival.
And have very much respect for these Tribes and their Native American History. I have been doing genealogy for well over 10 years, 5 years online. I invest at the least 40 hours doing research. I have a hunger and love of History, and much History knowledge. I have lots of records I would love to share with you regarding this family and all the source information I can give you.

Please contact me at northerncherry@msn.com
If you are willing to look at my Documentation, and are willing to do it with a open mind.

Sincerely,
Cherri Timmer


Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 3 Jul 2004 1:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Just to let you know I also stem from Ruth Wheldon whom married Richard Taylor. And you are welcome to visit
http://www.gencircles.com and type in Bertha Huguelet on the left hand side search then go to the file that named family ties and click on it and go to the W and click and go down the list till you come to Wheldon and click and go from there.

Lots of my information is there and If you want all my sources I can give them to you. Were you not aware of a second wife, because most are, and were you not aware that there was also a Rev. Mathews that resided in each place with Gabriel and his wife. I have lots of documentation regarding that issue. Mr Matthews was known as Marmaduke Matthews was Preacher of the Church of Malden, His wife was Katherine, Which after Gabriel Wheldon died his wife Margaret went back to England with Rev Marmaduke Matthews and his wife Katherine because of a Gabriels children took her to court over his will. I do have this documentaton as well. In fact I found numorous people trying to find out who Mr. Mathews was. And it was I who found them this documentation which they all except. As do others who have written books on they family genealogy are now adding my Documented Source information.

Sincerely,
Cherri Timmer

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 3 Dec 2007 3:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wheldon
Hi Cheryl, I am also a descendant of of Gabriel Wheldon. I a very much interested in him. I have been trying to find out if he was married t an Indian,and if so, about the docuentaion of it.I have seend pros and cons on this. Hope you will reply. Sincerely Merry Page ( McDonald) Miller

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 3 Dec 2007 11:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
The fallacy of Gabriel marrying an Indian Princess is just that. His wife---by whom he had his children---is MARY DAVIS.

I have a considerable amount of data on descendants from 5 major branches; the NJ branch, the SC branch, the Long Island, NY branch, the Connecticut branch and lastly the Va line. From these lines the family radiated throughout the country.

Persecution (due to witchcraft) caused change in spellings of some branches: WHEELDEN/WHEELDON (in Maine), WELDON (on Long Island, NY), WHILDEN (in SC/NC), WHILLDIN (in NJ/Penna) for some of the variations. In Massachusetts the original spelling---WHELDON---was retained. In NH we find spelling of WELDEN/WELDON.

GABRIEL was married more than once. He did have a wife named MARGARET, but she was not an Indian. GABRIEL came here first in 1629 as per Plimoth Colonial records at the time he had his second wife, MARGARET, whom he had married in England. He had no children by this 2nd wife.

What is your descent? Drop me a line @.....

alantompkins001@hvc.rr.com

I have copies of news articles regarding members of WHELDON descent including birth, death, marriage as well as some obituaries from Civil War dealing with those killed in battle. Also have copies of tin types form that era; pictures of silverware made by WHILDEN company in Charleston as well as pictures adn data regardi g POINTE PLANTATION, a
plantation on which rice was raised from 1700s up the the time of the Civil War. Much more willing to share in response to gaining descent of others such as yourself.

Your Wheldon Cousin,

Alan Tompkins

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 11 Nov 2008 3:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wheldon, Massasoit,
I'm from the Ruth line in 3 different ways (sounds weird I know but back then those things happened) Up until my great great aunt Lottie we had a "Indian head dress" passed down. Lottie had no child but my grandfather spent a lot of time with her. He recalled playing with it as a small child that the tail would drag on the ground as he ran around her living room. She promised this to be passed down to him but when she died he was unable to retrieve it. This was one of his major regrets in life because we no longer know where this is. In oral tradition we were related to the Wompanoag and as a small child my mother was told about our great whatever grandfather that was said to bring popcorn to the settlers. My grandfather always said he would think of this every time he would string popcorn for decorating the Christmas tree. This is what makes me believe Ruth is in fact half native. It took me awhile to find who they were because the names were impossible to remember and with all but my mother and her sister is left in what we know of our family I have to rely on what I find in these websites. But I know what my grandfather had told us and it was well before the internet. I tend to believe his stories over the internet. I can atleast contest that Lottie was of some native descent, she looked it! And both her native lines (Ruth and James & Ruth Maker) are all in question. But if you take one look at her you'd know she was native. Also her brother who would be my great grandfather also looked native but he only had the possibility of Ruth being native because they were only half siblings.

I think the possibility is still there so I hope that people reading this will not rule it out.

Re: Gabriel Wheldon

Posted: 11 Nov 2008 4:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for your post! I lean toward believing that there Gabriel Wheldon indeed married a Native American woman, a Wompanoag. Have you heard anything about Wheldon being banished from Plymouth because of his marriage to a Native American, and he had to live outside of the town because of the marriage?

per page

Find a board about a specific topic

  • Visit our other sites:

© 1997-2014 Ancestry.com | Corporate Information | New Privacy | New Terms and Conditions