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Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Posted: 16 Sep 2013 1:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Sep 2013 1:36AM GMT
I discovered a 120+ year old framed portrait of my grandfather who came to America in the early 1900s and before that purportedly lived in Austria-Hungary in the 1880s-1890s, Galicia region, Sanok county, in a small village called Kulaszne.
Today this location is in southern Poland, only a few miles from the Slovakia border to the south.

Stories from ancestors have rumors of him being some kind of border guard perhaps.
Also there were rumors of him being drafted in the Russia czar's army, but this doesn't look like a Russian uniform to me.
Any help in identifying the uniform, country, rank, etc. would be much appreciated.

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Re: Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Posted: 17 Sep 2013 12:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
It is an Austro-Hungarian Army uniform. I see no rank insignia on the collar so he is likely a "gemeiner" (a private). However, the image is not very clear. Can you see anything on his collar in the original picture?
CK

Re: Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Posted: 17 Sep 2013 1:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
By the way, on the soldiers left breast is a lanyard (the braided cord with tassels at the end). That is a type of qualification badge. Can you see any type of medal badge on this lanyard? If so, what is the emblem printed on the badge? That would indicate the type of unit he was in.
CK

Re: Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Posted: 17 Sep 2013 8:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Sep 2013 1:37AM GMT
Thanks for the info!
The 120+ year old (probably hand-tinted) photo is very fuzzy and faded from age so its very hard to make out details such as on the belt buckle.
Does the color (red) of the lanyard, braided cord and tassels, signify anything?
I've seen other photos on this board of Austria-Hungary uniforms with other color lanyards such as green.

Did Austria-Hungary draft men into the service in the 1880s-1890s in the Galicia region (mostly Ukranians)?
What age did they typically enter the service, late teens?
There are some old stories from older relatives that he may have been a border guard, would that type of uniform be correct for that?
Is this an infantry uniform?

Re: Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Posted: 28 Sep 2013 4:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Sep 2013 4:58PM GMT
looks very similar to kk Gebirgs(mountain)-Infantery (Landesschützen/Kaiserschützen) but maybe also some other like kuk Infanterie or kk Landwehr-Infanterie

Landesschützen/ Kaiserschützen:
http://www.geocities.ws/haugh58/KAISERSTROOPS863e.html?10790...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.k._Gebirgstruppe
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.k._Landessch%C3%BCtzen

The General Lanyard
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/badges/lanyard1.htm
this would possible fit
Scharlachrot (bright red)
"Schützenauszeichnung für die Infanterie - Marksmanship Lanyard made of bright red wool, introduced in July 1868 for soldiers of the infantry regiments including those of the border infantry regiments which were disbanded in 1873. From 1888 the soldiers of the Honvéd-infantry regiments were also eligible for the lanyard. In order to qualify the individual soldier had to successfully pass three basic exercises and could then continue to wear this lanyard as long as he successfully passed his annual training tests."

kuk Infanterie:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_k.u.k._Kampftruppen#D...
http://www.mlorenz.at/Bewaffnete_Macht/01_Infanterie/01_Infa...
kk Landwehr-Infanterie:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.k._Landwehr#Infanterie

Re: Help Identify Uniform - Possibly Austria-Hungary ~1890 Galicia, Sanok

Posted: 11 Oct 2013 12:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm curious about your mention of things on the collar of the uniform. I have a family photo in which one of the men is in what appears to be an Austro-Hungarian army uniform, I'm guessing from roughly the same period as the original post query.

Not sure the origins yet of this family line, though I suspect modern-day Ukraine (so similarly Galicia).

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