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Selah'S Mill (Murray)

Selah'S Mill (Murray)

Posted: 21 Apr 2012 5:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Apr 2012 12:18AM GMT
Surnames: Murray
my great great grandfather listed this place as his birthplace on his marriage record, but without a state or country. google has not helped me at all, does anyone anywhere know where this might be?

Re: Selah'S Mill

Posted: 21 Apr 2012 6:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
What is youe great great grandfather's full name???

WHERE did he live???

WHO did he marry????
Need her 1st name + DOB + birthplace

Need 1st names of all children + birthplaces.

Re: Selah'S Mill

Posted: 22 Apr 2012 12:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
Two states have towns named Selah: one is in Yakima County, WA and the other in Marion County, OR.

Joan

Re: Selah'S Mill

Posted: 22 Apr 2012 3:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
william murray lived in cumberland county nj
married (in new jersey)
flora french born:march 4 1877 in glassboro nj
children (all born in nj):
leroy
clarence
caleb
william
milton
flora
jonathan
elizabeth
kenneth
wilbert

the family bible has his birthplace listed as ireland, the census's have his birthplace listed at pa, back in the 1980's my grandmother had a search done in the philly records for him, but no luck.

Re: Selah'S Mill

Posted: 22 Apr 2012 9:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
You need to post your query on a more specific locality board and not on USA General for anyone to be able to help you.

Joan

Re: Selah'S Mill (Murray)

Posted: 22 Apr 2012 9:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
A Google search on Selah's Mill keeps bringing up Elk County, Pennsylania. Might be worth taking a close look.

Re: Selah'S Mill (Murray)

Posted: 24 Apr 2012 12:42AM GMT
Classification: Query


The one thing that no one has asked and you did not provide. What else is on that marriage "record" such as county and state. Was it Cumberland Co NJ ?

I found the transcription. Is this what you are looking at or do you have a copy of the original ledger page ? These transcription can be misread.

Groom's Name: William Murray
Groom's Birth Date: 1874
Groom's Birthplace: Selah'S Mill
Groom's Age: 23
Bride's Name: Flora M. French
Bride's Birth Date: 1878
Bride's Birthplace: Glassboro
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 02 Jan 1897
Marriage Place: Glassboro, Gloucester, New Jersey
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02889-0
System Origin: New Jersey-EASy
Source Film Number: 589816
Reference Number: P 261 n 29
Source Citation
"New Jersey, Marriages, 1678-1985," index, FamilySearch -1885 NJ state census and NJ births 1660 - 1980. https://familysearch.org

Name: Murray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Oct 1898
Birthplace: Bridgeton, Cumberland, New Jersey
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Wm Murray
Father's Birthplace: Us
Father's Age: 23y
Mother's Name: Flora French
Mother's Birthplace: Us
Mother's Age: 20y
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05368-8
System Origin: New Jersey-EASy
Source Film Number: 494240
Reference Number: v 58 p 252
Source Citation
"New Jersey, Births and Christenings, 1660-1980," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

09 June 1900 census says he was born in New Jersey month of July 1875 age 24 so he was about to be 26 and married 1897 parents born NJ the 1920 census says his parents were born in PA and appx birth year was 1873 age 47 on the 15 of Jan 1920. I do not find them 1910 census.

Flora born NJ Mar 1879, Leroy was born Oct 1899 per the record. They lived at 356 Magnolia Ave he was a farm hand and rented. Clarence was then born in July after the 1900 census and Flora M Murray was widowed by 1930 census lived in Commercial, Cumberland County. They lived in Downe, in 1920 census on Landing Road. The enumerator first wrote he was born PA then changed it to NJ.

That is were you need to start is a death record between 1928 and 1930. He said he was 23 on the marriage record 02 Jan 1897 so he turned 23 sometime in 1896. He is last listed in the 1928 city directory in Bridgeton then Flora is listed in the 1930 directory at same address as 1928 with Wm.

Flora French was listed in the 1880 US census in Cumberland County but not William Murray. Flora and family were listed in Fairfield, Cumberland Co 1885 NJ state census and in Hopewell, Cumberland Co 1895 NJ state census; two years before they married. The state records only list gender, color but not ages. Flora was counted twice.

1895 record family 353 Hopewell
Jacob Becket
Flora M French
Charles H French
Lizzie M French
John M Becket
Rachel Becket b. 1840 NJ wife of Jacob son John
Ida M Caddock 1861 NJ wife of Charles W
John W Caddock son of Ida and Charles
Charles Caddock son of Ida and Charles

1895 Family 339 Hopewell, Cumberland Co
David S Coombs born NJ abt 1860 married Bridgeton 1886 no children
Hannah PERRY Coombs born NJ abt 1860
Wm S Perry 1828 NJ Hannah's father
Horace Carney colored
William Murray

1895 record family 818 in Bridgeton ward 1, Cumberland Co
Charles Craddock
Ida Craddock
John Craddock
Charles French
Flora French

1895 Bridgeport, Gloucester family 166
C Fletcher Myers
Anna Myers
William Murray
Joseph Williams

And of course there were other William Murray's throughout NJ.

Name: Leroy Murray
County: Cumberland
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1898
Race: White med height & build grey eyes brown hair
FHL Roll Number: 1711994
DraftBoard: 1 WW I 12 Sept 1918 addresss RFD 4, Bridgeton farming for Minch Bros in Bridgeton, Flora Murray nearest relative

Name: Clarance Murray
County: Cumberland
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1900
Race: White med/med grey eyes light hair
FHL Roll Number: 1711994 same info

For some reason this one will not open but I found Anton Murray and mother Mary wife Catherine dtr Marion son Robert in Cumberland Co
.
Antoine William Murray
County: Cumberland
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1875
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1712094
DraftBoard: 2

1880 Residence: Fairfield, Cumberland, New Jersey
Parent Franklin P. French M 26 NJ appears to be living next to father Richard B French age 58 wife Elizabeth age 52
Parent Ida M. French F 18
Flora M. French F 1 says she had the chicken pox
Charlotte French F 30 widowed sister in law born PA
Thomas T. French M 4 nephew
Samuel J. French M 2 nephew

Another William Murray married in Woodbury, Gloucester Co to Carrie Norton and they lived in Logan. He too was born about the same time as your William.

This one I found in the 1880 census in Gloucester Co father was "deceased"
Name: William Murray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1873
Birthplace: Greenwich Township, Gloucester, New Jersey
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Murray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Matilda
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05083-4
System Origin: New Jersey-EASy
Source Film Number: 494174
Reference Number: v CG p 471
Source Citation
"New Jersey, Births and Christenings, 1660-1980," index, FamilySearch https://familysearch.org


Name: William Murray
Residence Year: 1899
Street Address: 15 Magnolia ave
Residence Place: Cumberland, New Jersey
Occupation: Farmhand
Publication Title: Cumberland, New Jersey, City Directory, 1899

1926 Bridgeton City Directory
Wm and Flora Murray 21 Lincoln farmer
Leroy Murray 21 Lincoln junk dealer
Clarence Murray 21 Lincoln junk dealer
Milton Murray 21 Lincoln laborer

1928 Bridgeton Directory
Wm & Flora Murray 44 Ellis laborer

1930 Bridgeton, New Jersey City Directory
Mrs. Flora Murray 44 Ellis
Caleb L, Clarence C, Leroy and Milton P Murray 44 Ellis

1937 -1938 Bridgeton
Mrs. Flora Murray 44 Ellis with Clarence C, Johnson C, Leroy and Wilbert J student. Caleb wife Mary 129 American Ave.

Widow's are usually listed as "widow of then spouse's first name" I guess it was a choice.

1940 Bridgeton
Flora M Murray (wid Wm) 44 Ellis with Leroy, Clarence & Wilbert
Caleb & Mary M 114 American Ave
Milton & Edna 263 S Pine

1945, 1947, 1949, 1950 Bridgeton
Flora M Murray (wid Wm) 261 S Pine with Leroy, Milton wife Edna M

Re: Selah'S Mill (Murray)

Posted: 24 Apr 2012 11:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
that is the record i was looking at. and you found so much more!! thank you very much, though im still no closer to his parents :(

Re: Selah'S Mill (Murray)

Posted: 4 Jan 2013 5:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
It may be SELAH, Yakima, Washington.
It is a small town, with great people.
Apple Tree Juice is made there.
I was in a nearby city until 1868 and move to King and Snohomish Wa. So I know there have been many changes.

At that time I had relatives living there.
I hope this helps you. God Bless and Happy Hunting.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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