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Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 9:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Johnson
The family story is that Charles came over from Sweden at a young age, after being orphaned, and that he was sent to a relative somewhere near Alexandria, MN. My aunt believes that he had a birthday while on Ellis Island, which according to census records I've found would have been in 1877.

I've found him in the 1920, 1930, and 1940 US Census records with enough collaborating information to be sure I've got the right Charles Johnson.

With such a common first and last name, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can trace him back to Sweden and find out anything about his parents?

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 1 Apr 2013 1:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Charles E Johnson
This post was deleted by the author on 10 Apr 2013 12:10AM GMT

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 2 Apr 2013 5:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Pillager, Cass county, Minnesota

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 3 Apr 2013 4:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 3 Apr 2013 5:18PM GMT
> "With such a common first and last name, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can trace him back to Sweden and find out anything about his parents?" <

By being very very specific about every tiny detail including posting full transcriptions of every record you've found.

The 1940 US census lists Charles's wife as Ida. There are about a half dozen couples named Charles and Ida of about the right ages living in Minnesota contemporaneously.

In 1910 is this couple Charlie Johnson born about 1875 in Sweden and Ida C Johnson in Cass County with children Annie, Carl, and Mabel?

I'll leave it to you to add much much more about him to help the forum distinguish "your" family. The forum needs the same corroborating evidence you used.

Do name your sources and identify sources you do not have. For example, a marriage certificate, naturalization papers, and death certificate will have more information on the original than what is available online. Let the forum know if you do or do not have these documents.

After creating a really useful complete query, you'll probably want to post on the Sweden board to get help tracing Swedish ancestry. Bear in mind, they will have the same questions - and needs - that we do.

Most of us usually underestimate how important it is to share your facts when seeking genealogy help - and we underestimate the importance of the USA information in making the link across the Atlantic.

Charles is usually Carl in Scandinavia.

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 8 Apr 2013 9:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for your reply. I don't have any birth, death, or marriage certificates - yet.

In 1920, Charles and his second wife, Ida, are in Pillager, Cass County.
Hannah, Peter Carl, and Viola are his children with his first wife, Anna Nyman.
Ingrid (my grandmother) and Victor are his and Ida's children.
According to this census, he was born about 1868, immigrated in 1877, and was naturalized in 1904.

These children all match the information I got from my father, and I know that his grandparents lived in Pillager, so this census record (and the 1940 one) is the most solid one I've got so far.

I haven't found the family in 1930, but I know that sometime around then they were in or around Cloquet, MN, where my grandmother attended high school.

I'm less convinced that the 1910 census record you mention is my Charles and Ida; Dad has never mentioned an Aunt Annie (though I realize she could have died before he was born). Also, Charles's immigration date here doesn't match the information on the 1920 census. Carl P in that census could be Peter Carl in the 1920 one, and Mabel V might be Viola, but I'm not sure how much that's stretching things.

I just found a 1900 census record, though, where Charles and his wife Anna C are living in Rail Prairie, Morrison county, next to Peter and Anna Nyman, likely her parents. This record gives Charles's birth as March 1869, which fits with the 1920 and 1940 records (the two I'm most confident in so far), and their marriage as 1897. It sounds like a trip to the county recorder in Little Falls is probably my best next step.


Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 8 Apr 2013 10:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
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Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 9 Apr 2013 1:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Apr 2013 2:25PM GMT
This info was all included in a following post.

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 9 Apr 2013 1:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Apr 2013 3:12AM GMT
An Ancestry.com tree says Mabel Viola Johnson was called "Viola." That's common with Scandinavians - to be called by a middle name. We often see the first name in a record, and then later the "calling name," or see the first and middle name flipped. None of which proves that 1910 census is your family - but it probably is.

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Since Charles immigrated so young, seems he would have been accompanied by an adult. Is that part of the family story about him?

A candidate in 1880?

1880 US Census
Alexandria, Douglas, Minnesota
Andrew Johnson 45 b abt 1835 Sweden
Anne S. Johnson 47 b abt 1833 Sweden
John Johnson 14 b abt 1866 Sweden
Mary Johnson 12 b abt 1868 Sweden
Charles Johnson 11 son, born about 1869 in Sweden <-----
Oscar Johnson 5 b abt 1875 Minnesota

(to clarify - I didn't look at the Ancestry tree I mentioned above)

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 9 Apr 2013 11:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Johnson
This post was deleted by the author on 10 Apr 2013 12:11AM GMT

Re: Charles E. Johnson b. 1868

Posted: 9 Apr 2013 12:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 14 Apr 2013 12:01AM GMT
Hi ritarodriguez123, I'll look for your new thread.
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