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Posted: 14 Aug 2011 10:14PM GMT
Looking for family information on Joe, born July 26, 1877 in Bishop Creek, California.
Re: Joseph Moran
Posted: 13 Feb 2012 4:46AM GMT
Moran, Scoble, Hammond
I did find the Moran Family Tree,
In 1900 Harriett Scoble was living in Muldoon, Blaine, ID.
Delilah Scoble, head, b. OR Feb 1865, divorced.
Maryann, b. OR Aug 1875, widow.
Harriett, b. ID June 1885, father born=England & mother born=OR.
Joseph, b. ID May 1887.
Jessie J., b. ID Oct 1889.
Name: Joseph Moran
Bride: Etta Scoble
Married: 12 June 1904, Bellevue, Blaine, ID
On Sept. 10, 1918 Joseph Moran was living at Bellevue, Blaine, Idaho.
Born: 26 July 1877
Occupation: stock raiser & herder, self-employed.
Source: World War I Draft Registration Cards 1917-18.
In 1920 Joseph was living in Deep Creek, Twin Falls, ID.
James Coleman, head household, b. UT, 31, single, stockman range cattle.
Joseph Moran, lodger, b. CA, 42, single.
In 1920 Harriet Moran was living in the Idaho State Insane Asylum, Bingham, ID.
Harriet Moran, b. abt. 1888, ID
Marital Status: Married
Father born: England
Mother born: Oregon
The Moran Family Tree shows that Joseph and Harriet "Etta" had three children and one was Joseph Richard Moran, b. 1911 and died 1992.
In 1920 Joseph and his siblings were living in Rigby, Jefferson, ID.
Mary Smitham, head, b. OH, 43, widow, midwife public practice.
Sylvia Smitham, dau, b. OH, 24, single, teacher junior hi.
Wm Moran, nephew, b. ID, 14,
Vilet Moran, neice, b. ID, 12.
Joseph Moran, nephew, b. ID, 8.
Name: Harriet Moran
Died: Blackfoot, Bingham, ID on Aug. 19, 1953 per death cert #2976.
Source: Brigham Young University,
There is an obituary volunteer for Bingham Co. at
Scroll down to Bingham Co. & click on Renee.
Name: Joseph Moran [father]
Bride: May Hammond [wife #2]
Married: Sept. 1, 1921, Shoshone, Lincoln, Idaho
Source: Idaho Marriages 1842-1996. Lincoln Co. Court House, Vol. 3, page 288.
In 1930 he was living in Bellevue, Blaine, ID.
Joseph Moran, head, b. CA, 53, married, stockman cattle ranch.
May, wife, b. OH, 49.
Charles Hammond, stepson, b. ID, 12.
John J. Chapman, lodger, b. OH, 41, single.
Name: Joseph Moran [no middle initial]
Born: 26 July 1877, Bishop Creek, Inyo, California
Residence in 1942: Bellevue, Blaine, ID
Nearest Relative: Mrs. Mary Moran
Source: U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards 1942.
Joseph Moran died 1 July 1959 in Sawmill Canyon, Blaine, Idaho.
Source: Moran Family Tree.
An inexpensive way to "prove" this date and place is to look for his obituary (one might not have been published). Use the URL above for obituaries and scroll down to Blaine Co.
Joseph Richard Moran [son] in 1930 was living at Fort Lewis, Military Reservation, Pierce Co., Washington.
Joseph R. Moran, b. abt. 1909, ID, single, Private in U.S. Army.
Name: Joe Moran [son]
Born: 22 July 1911
Died: 21 May 1992
Last Residence: Bellevue, Blaine, ID
His soc. sec. # was assigned in California before 1951.
Source: Social Security Death Index.
The information in the Last Residence field is NOT necessarily where he last resided. Social Security uses that field for their own purposes.
You can't verify this info because the State of Idaho doesn't release death info until 50 years after the death. Therefore we don't have any other info to go on and his family did live in Bellevue.
It's located in Blaine Co. and the obituary info is listed above. Successful Searching!
Re: Joseph Moran
Posted: 13 Feb 2012 6:32AM GMT
Findagrave has Joseph R Moran's memorial at:
I was slightly acquainted with this Joseph Moran.
He shares a memorial with Byrle Keyes.
Re: Joseph Moran
Posted: 14 Feb 2012 3:58AM GMT
The Moran Tree you found belongs to the poster, it is one of TWO owned by the poster.
Re: Joseph Moran
Posted: 14 Feb 2012 4:17AM GMT
BillJan154 (Jan ?),
When you post, post the link to your family tree. That gives the "big picture" on what you already know. You have two trees on the Moran family of your four, this is the link to Joseph Moran on your larger of the two:
Also be very careful in your wordings when you post. Identify if you are looking for ancestors or descendants. Based on your posted family trees (four), it appears you might be looking more for information on the ancestors of Joseph than his descendants. I've address some of that.
Your tree (accessible with Ancestry membership or access at local libraries using their computer system) shows:
Joseph Moran, born 26 July (abt) 1877, in Bishop Creek, CA, died 1 July 1959 in Blaine County, ID.
--he marriet Etta Scoble, born Muldoon, Blaine Co, ID to Richard James Scoble(born in Cornwall, England) and Delilah Jane Swank(born Oregon)
The World War I Draft Registration Card Image database:
Joseph registered at Hailey, Idaho on September 10, 1918 (the last of the Draft Registrations). He was identified as being 41, born July 26, 1877.He was medium in height and build, brown eyes and dark hair. I find about half of these dates of birth off by one year.
The World War II Draft Registration Card Image database (The Old Man's Draft).
Joseph (No Middle Name) Moran, age 64, born July 26, 1877 in Bishop Creek, California.
Name and Address of Person Who Will Always Know Your Address: Mrs. May Moran (This is NOT a "nearest relative" listing, sometimes the registrant gave employment or friends names). This person was written as "May" not "Mary." He was White, 5'-10" in height, 165 pounds, Gray hair, gray eyes, Ruddy Complexion. He registered on April 27, 1942.
--There are three Bishop Creek, CA. One in Mariposa County, near Yosemite National Park; one in Siskiyou County, near the CA/Oregon border; and, one in Inyo County, near the border with Mono County, along Route 395. The three are just names of Creeks. Only one has a town name nearby of Bishop, the one in Inyo County. I checked the US Geological Survey to see if there were any "historically" named populated areas, without success. There are many times were a name found for a person was identified being born in the name of the voter precinct.
The 1880 Census of Vallejo, Solano Co, CA
Paul Moran, age 42, Miner, born in "Chillie" (Chile)
James, 2. All children born in CA, no mother listed).
---This is the only "Joseph Moran" found in the 1880 Census. There is NO PROOF this is the correct person. This Joseph was four, which could put his birth to 1875, depending on the date of his birth and the enumeration date of the census. This "father" does not show his wife, so, if this "is" the correct Joseph, he may have lived in an orphange etc. But, there is no proof of that. The "correct" person does not appear (readily) in the 1900 or 1910 census, with a person born in California. BUT, the information in the US Census was often wrong.
The 1930 Census of Bellevue, Blaine County, ID
Joseph Moran, age 53, was shown as born in California to both parents born in CA. So, was this correct or was this the only "guesstimate" available, if given by Joseph or his wife, or even his stepson. This Joseph is shown as being first married at age 21 (about 32 years before [1897/1898] so, he could have been married in the 1900 Census).
Since you are new to genealogy, here is a link to a good posting:
As you progress in your research, I'd suggest doing it yourself, it is more rewarding that way AND you know you are getting the correct information versus wrong information provided by volunteers. BUT, documentary evidence (census, death certificates, birth certificates, etc) are often wrong themselves, do not trust any document until you can match it with other proof. Do NOT trust someone's family tree. I, on a daily basis, find wrong information being posted. I'm constantly correcting mistakes made, or adding information overlooked or misquoted. Do NOT trust anyone that "assumes" information not based on evidence. "I couldn't find them so they must have died..." I think I've found one of the worst genealogists online, a CONSTANT battle to correct errors and send information off list to the original poster.
There are MANY resources online to find the images of the US Census, genealogy records, etc. Far to many for me to list.
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