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VERTATSCHITSCH

George Plautz (View posts)
Posted: 26 Jul 2006 8:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Vertatschitsch
Looking for members of the Vertacic or Vrtatschitsch familes from Doblice. Trying to determine a connection between two members with the same surname.

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 19 Jan 2010 5:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: VERTATSCHITSCH
I'm a Vertatschitsch, with roots in Kocejve, just northwest of Doblice. I am also curious about the connection between these variations. How did you become interested in this relatively rare surname?

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 19 Jan 2010 6:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: VERTATSCHITSCH VERTACHICH VERTACIC
This family Vertacic came from Doblice. A member of this family married into my Plautz family up in Calumet, Michigan. Matt was the only child, but he had a stepbrother also in Calumet. This family also married into other families from Crnomelj parish I am tracking.

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 19 Jan 2010 7:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Is it possible that Vertatschitsch is actually a spelling variation of Vrtatschitsch originating from Ellis Island immigration officials, who may have added the 'e'? Unless the variation runs further back than that. Do you know if the region had both Vertatschitsch and Vrtatschitsch famillies pre-WWII?

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 19 Jan 2010 8:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have heard that Vertacic or Vrtacic if are roots of Vertatschitsch etc, as a result of spelling changes to German phonetics around the late 1800's.

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 20 Jan 2010 12:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
You are correct in Vrt*, but the only Vertachich I know of in the US settled in Ontonagon, Michigan. Have not traced any other male Vertacic to the US. Who are you descended from? There are Vrtachitisch's in Doblice prior to 1941. They were in several houses there. I assume Kocejve is the the former Gottschee, and not the village next to Crnomelj?

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 9:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Vertatschitsch and Vrtatschitsch are the germanized forms of
Vertacic or Vrtacic. germans have written it how it sounds for them. the slovenian "cic" is spoken like german "tschitsch".

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 2 Feb 2010 9:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
the name has his orgin of a mountain-range/openfield and comes about slovenian "Vrtaca" germanized "Vertatscha"
= Karawanken (mountain-range at borderline Austria-Slovenia)
also Karstgegend (openfields).
so means someone who was coming once from that area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karawanken
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karawanken_Tunnel_%28motorway%2...
http://images.google.at/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedi...
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Alps_of_Slovenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ferlacher_Horn_01.jpg

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 18 Apr 2012 2:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Have a great grandfather Johann Vrtacic,b1889 and name was mispelled and deceased with the spelling Wertacet,Wertaset instead of his original spelling. Found Vrtacic mispelled many different ways. Slovenia and died in Wyandotte County,Kansas. Had a son John and a doughter Mary.

Re: VERTATSCHITSCH

Posted: 18 Apr 2012 3:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Apr 2012 4:11AM GMT
Thanks for your post, I wasn't aware of this variation on the surname. The numerous spellings led me to wonder about this cold case file in my lineage: my dad was one of 10 kids from the Gottschee region and they immigrated over to north america -- the eldest child was first to come over but never heard from again. They presumed him deceased during passage. At one point, before electronic records, a private investigator was hired to resolve the mystery, which I think didn't yield much. There isn't any evidence to suggest one way or another if he was estranged and plotting the numerous variations on the spelling is the only starting I can think of to see if the database records have truly been exhausted.

Of course, logic would dictate that this missing Vertatschitsch, if he survived, could have more easily sought out his kin than the other way around and the fact that this has never transpired is evidence enough that he passed -- but still, it's an interesting tangent to explore and some consider it unresolved.

Also, my grandfather had a brother who came over in the early 1900s and was lost in the history books. Same mystery. If we were to locate this individual, that would be paydirt in terms of pulling our tree together.
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