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James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

Maureen (View posts)
Posted: 26 Apr 2003 4:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Myers, Cummings, Lind
I'm looking for information on James Cummings and his wife Ellen Hannah (nee Unknown). They both were born before about 1885. Had at least one daughter, Nellie Ellen, b. May 28, 1899 in Glasgow. Nellie died in October, 1982, in Akron, Ohio, USA.

I don't know if James and Ellen Cummings immigrated to the USA, or Nellie came on her own. I have no dates on this either.

Nellie Ellen m. Henry Louis Myers in Akron, Ohio, USA, before 1930. They had seven children: Nellie, Evelyn, Ellen, Eleanor, Louis, and Robert. The daughter Nellie married into the Lind family in the USA.

I have good documentation on two generations beyond Nellie. Ellen.

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

Posted: 26 Apr 2003 8:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
One of the starter points is finding the birth certificate and from it, if registered in Scotland, would be the names of the parents and possible date of marriage etc.

So it came as something of a surprise that I have been unable to find the birth of your Nellie Ellen Cummings in the records of 1899. The following are all the female Cummings born/registered in Scotland in 1899. The last named is the only Nellie between 1855 and 1902.

1 1899 CUMMINGS AGNES F MUIRAVONSIDE 486/00 0062
2 1899 CUMMINGS ANN COVENTRY F DUNFERMLINE FIFE 424/00 0699
3 1899 CUMMINGS ELIZABETH F PORT GLASGOW 574/00 0192
4 1899 CUMMINGS ELIZABETH F GOVAN 646/02 0222
5 1899 CUMMINGS ELIZABETH F GREENOCK EAST 564/01 0861
6 1899 CUMMINGS ELIZABETH FINLA F GREENOCK WEST 564/02 0111
7 1899 CUMMINGS ELLEN FREW F DALSERF LANARK 638/02 0074
8 1899 CUMMINGS HELEN F ST GEORGE EDIN 685/01 0487
9 1899 CUMMINGS HELEN HENDERSON F BUCKHAVEN FIFE 459/02 0188
10 1899 CUMMINGS JANE NIMMO F OCHILTREE 609/00 0057
11 1899 CUMMINGS JANET F ST ROLLOX GLASGOW 644/06 1061
12 1899 CUMMINGS LILY MARY F GOVAN 646/02 0865
13 1899 CUMMINGS LIZZIE HAY F PARTICK 646/03 1356
14 1899 CUMMINGS MARION F BLANTYRE LANARK 624/00 0293
15 1899 CUMMINGS MARION PEDDIE F LEITH SOUTH 692/02 0717
16 1899 CUMMINGS MARY HELEN F BLACKFRIARS GLW 644/05 0336
17 1899 CUMMINGS MARY JANE REID F BO'NESS WEST LOTHIAN 663/01 0016
18 1899 CUMMINGS MARY MONACHAN F OCHILTREE 609/00 0056
19 1899 CUMMINGS MARY REID F JOHNSTON ETC RENFR 573/02 0223
20 1899 CUMMINGS MARY WATT NELSO F ST ANDREW EDIN 685/02 0809
21 1899 CUMMINGS WILHELMINA ARNO F SCOONIE FIFE 456/00 0069

1 1894 CUMMINGS NELLIE JASPER B F ST NICHOLAS ABER 168/01 1184


There is nothing in the 1901 census that matches your family grouping



Which one would you like to investigate further?

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

Maureen (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 1:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cummings, Myers, Lind
Gordon, it is so kind of you to search your information for me. I really appreciate your effort.

How disappointing Nellie Ellen was not there. I was so hopeful, since I thought I had a solid birthdate and city. I will ask my Aunt again, to be sure she is confident about the name, date and location. Maybe there was some alteration of name or maybe her mother wasn't born in Glasgow at all, but moved there later. Since you searched so wide a range of years without finding her, I'm worried.

So, nothing on James Cummings either? Don't know when he was born, but if he was about 19 when he got married and had Nellie Ellen, he might have been born around 1880.

Maureen

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

janette (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 8:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Maureen.
Their are 2 Nellie Cumming , 1 born 1898 the other 1900 not sure which part of scotland yet.
Will be on Scotlandspeople a little later and will check for you.
If anyone gives yu the info before hand could you let me know
janette@janette96.freeserve.co.uk

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

Posted: 27 Apr 2003 9:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Looking at the 1901 census (England & Wales) for James Cummings( b Scotland) there are the following :

Ella Cummings 1 Brompton Kent Kent Gillingham  
Ella Cummings 28 O Bay Scotland Kent Gillingham  
James Cummings 27 Glasgow Scotland Kent Gillingham Leading Stoker R N

Possible birth from this: Births Mar 1900
Cummings  Ella Laura B    Medway  2a 701  
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with a further James:

Beatrice Cummings 6 Birmingham Warw Birmingham Balsall Heath  
Emily Cummings 30 Birmingham Birmingham Balsall Heath  
Harold Cummings 7 Birmingham Birmingham Balsall Heath  
James Cummings 27 Sutherland Scotland Birmingham Balsall Heath Clerk Merchants
Laura Cummings 1 Birmingham Birmingham Balsall Heath  
Nellie Cummings 4 Birmingham Birmingham Balsall Heath  
Samuel Cummings 9 Birmingham Birmingham Balsall Heath  

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

janette (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 10:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Maureen
1890 CUMMING NELLIE F ST NICHOLAS SU/D 168/01 0836

1898 CUMMING NELLIE F DALZIEL LANARK 639/00 0018

1900 CUMMING NELLIE HALL F WEST PETERCULTER 231/02 0044

1893 CUMMING NELLIE HANNAH F DAILLY AYR 585/00 0026

1894 CUMMINGS NELLIE JASPER B F ST NICHOLAS ABER 168/01 1184

let me know what you think.
Janette

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

Maureen (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 10:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Shearer, Cummings, Myers
Thank you so much for responding! I'm so lost at this point.

No one has found a Nellie Cummings for me, born in 1899 in Glasgow. I spoke with my Aunt today, and she said her mother could have been born in Redrockshire or Aberdeen and then moved to Glasgow when she was very young. No one is certain now.

Nellie's mother -- who married James Cummings -- was named Ellen Hannah Shearer. She was born in Scotland also, but I would be guessing at a date. If I add, say, 20 years back from Nellie's birthdate, Ellen Hannah may have been born about 1879. No idea where.

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

Maureen (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 10:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cummings, Shearer
I have just learned that the maiden name of the Ellen Hannah who married James Cummings was SHEARER. James' and Ellen's daughter, Nellie, was born about 1899, is there a place I can look for the marriage of Cummings and Shearer before that, in Scotland? That might help me.

You are so kind to take the time to look for me!

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

janette (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 10:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Maureen their is no marriage for James cummings and ellen Shearer , heres a list of all marriages for James to a hellen or Ellen from 1855-1927 Scotland.
1 1856 CUMMING JAMES SUTHERLAND HELLEN KINGUSSIE & INSH 102/00 0001

2 1857 CUMMING JAMES CHALMERS HELEN FORGUE 194/00 0007

3 1865 CUMMING JAMES COLQUHOUN HELEN RENFREW 575/00 0003

4 1869 CUMMING JAMES WALSH ELLEN ST GILES EDINBURGH 685/04 0077

5 1876 CUMMING JAMES WATSON ELLEN TARVES 243/00 0014

6 1883 CUMMING JAMES MCCORRY ELLEN ST ANDREW EDIN 685/02 0095

7 1898 CUMMING JAMES STEVENSON HELEN DENNISTOUN GLASGOW 644/03 0521

8 1898 CUMMING JAMES RAE HELEN DENNISTOUN GLASGOW 644/03 0521

9 1899 CUMMING JAMES SCOUGALL ELLEN ROBERTSON OPR REG. CURRIE 682/00 0011

10 1899 CUMMING JAMES KENNEDY HELEN B DENNISTOUN GLASGOW 644/03 0468

11 1899 CUMMING JAMES ROBERTSON ELLEN OPR REG. CURRIE 682/00 0011

12 1900 CUMMING JAMES DOUGLAS MARY ELLEN CLOSEBURN 816/00 0003

13 1915 CUMMING JAMES WALKER HELEN LENNIE JA KIRKCALDY & ABBOTS 442/00 0066

14 1915 CUMMING JAMES POTTINGER HELEN MARY LERWICK 005/01 0055

15 1919 CUMMING JAMES QUINN HELEN PAISLEY 573/01 0575

16 1919 CUMMING JAMES MCKENZIE HELEN QUINN PAISLEY 573/01 0575

17 1923 CUMMING JAMES SCOTT HELEN JANE DUNC ST CLEMENT DUNDEE 282/02 0395

18 1924 CUMMING JAMES ROBERTSON HELEN INNES GLENMUICK ETC 201/00 0006

19 1912 CUMMING JAMES MCTEAR HUME HELEN RANKIN PENNINGHAME 895/00 0004

20 1912 CUMMING JAMES MCTEAR HORROCKS HELEN RANKIN PENNINGHAME 895/00 0004

21 1913 CUMMING JOHN JAMES WARD HELEN LERWICK 005/01 0076

22 1921 CUMMINGS JAMES AITKEN KENNEDY HELEN RAMSAY DUNBLANE & LECROPT 348/00 0013

Re: James Cummings b. Scotland, m. Ellen b. Glasgow

janette (View posts)
Posted: 27 Apr 2003 11:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
these are the only Shearer Cummings marriages.

1863 CUMMING ROBERT SHEARER MARY HIGH CHURCH GLAS 644/02 0205

1921 CUMMING ROBERT SHEARER AGNES JOHNSTONE STIRLING 490/00 0209

1916 CUMMING ROBERT S SHEARER ETHEL IRENE NRH 021/00 0021

1890 CUMMINGS MATTHEW SHEARER HANNAH BOTHWELL 625/01 0104
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