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finding grandparents parents

Posted: 9 Dec 2012 2:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
i am new at this and i am wondering how i could locate my grandfathers parents? my grandfather paul raab came over on the kroonland in 1907 from germany now i am stumped on how i can find out who his parents are as my family has no idea atleast not the living relatives. any help would be so greatly appreciated.thank you

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 9 Dec 2012 6:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
You can look for documents that may list his parents, such as his marriage license, death certificate, or naturalization documents.
If you can tell us more information, such as when he was born, where he came to in the US, and the names of his wife and children, we can give you more specific information.

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 9 Dec 2012 7:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Dec 2012 7:36PM GMT
Do you subscribe to Ancestry.com? If not, you can go to the free Ellis Island website and find Paul RAAB's ship manifest entering the U.S. on the ship Kroonnland on September 11, 1906.

Included is his last place of residence and the name of the person he is traveling to join. This would be a good place for you to start your research.


http://ellisisland.org/

His listed age was 16 when he entered the U.S. in 1906, making his birth date about 1890 in Germany. Knowing from the ship list that he was joining his aunt in St. Louis, Missouri, we can find his World War 1 draft registration card:

St. Louis, Missouri, June 5, 1917

Paul J. Rabb [his signature gave the correct spelling of RAAB], age 28

address: 6942 Manchester, St. Louis, MO
birth date: December 8, 1889
citizenship: alien
where were you born: Steinbach, Germany.
occupation: cane maker [looks as though it says core maker]
by whom employed: Scullen? [can't read well] Gallagher
supporting: wife and three children
married, caucasian, no prior military service
medium height, medium build, brown eyes, dark hair, not bald.



Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 9 Dec 2012 8:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
According to Paul's passenger list, his last residence was Steinbach, Germany. His WWI draft card states that he was born in Steinbach, Germany. Hope this helps. RP
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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Paul Raab
Arrival Date: 11 Sep 1906
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Kroonland

***Last Permanent Residence: Steinbach, Germany
***Destination: St. Louis, Missouri to Aunt Barbara Fischer

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1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Paul Raal [Paul Raab]
Age in 1910: 20
Birth Year: 1890
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1910: St Louis Ward 8, Saint Louis City, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Fischer 59[39] imm 1888
Barbara Fischer 57[37] m2 16 y 0/0 imm 1873
Paul Raal 20
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1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Paul Raab
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1920: St Louis Ward 24, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Emma Raab
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Paul Raab 32
Emma Raab 29 b illinois
Walter Raab 8
Helen Raab 6
Elnore Raab 3[3 5/12]
Raymond Raab 0[8/12]


1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Emma Raab
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Missouri
Race: White
Home in 1930: Maplewood, St Louis, Missouri
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Raab 37 md age 18
Walter F Raab 18
Helen L Raab 15
Elenor P Raab 13
Raymond J Raab 10
Stanford Raab 8
Regina V Raab 5
Theodore G Raab 3[3 2/12]
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U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Paul J Rabb
Residence: 6942 Manchester St. Louis
City: St Louis
County: St Louis (Independent City)
State: Missouri
Birthplace: Germany (Steinbach Germany)
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1889
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 24
Age: 28
Occupation: Core Maker
Employer: Scullen? Gallagher
Dependants: Wife & 3 children
Height/Build: Med/Med
Color of Eyes/Hair: Brown/Dark
Date: June 5, 1917

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 12 Dec 2012 11:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
he was born in 1888 he is from germany wife was emma he came over on krooland in 1907 manifest only list a aunt no parents

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 13 Dec 2012 12:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
i have found my grandfather paul now i am stumped on how to find his parents who stayed in germany. and thank you to all that responded i have learned alot

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 13 Dec 2012 4:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Have you tried to find his marriage record to Emma?
His parents should be listed on it. RP

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 13 Dec 2012 4:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Dec 2012 5:18PM GMT
I see there are many posts on this family name.. from last year.. have you looked at those.. type in the last name and you will see what I am talking about. I believe the original german spelling of the name was Raab.. There were some Raab's in Dachau concentration camp.. have you looked at those records?
All Germany, Dachau Concentration Camp Records, 1945 results for Raab

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Anton Raab Schelkingen 17 Feb1907 German or Austrian (German) Schelkingen
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Johann Raab 10 Jan 1862 Polish Freyung
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Michaly Raab Komaron 27 Jun 1888 1944 Hungarian Komaron
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Phillip Raab Gross-Tapoloani 24 Jun 1889 Austrian German (Austrian) Wien 10
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Michael Raab Györszemere 17 Oct 1890 1945 Hungarian Györszemere
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Jenö Raab Jaszfalu 15 Jun 1892 1945 Hungarian Kolta
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Hugo Raab Pforzen 27 Aug 1894 German or Austrian (German) München
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Ignatz Raab Batorkeszi 17 Feb 1894 Hungarian Batorkeszi
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Heinrich Raab Ruderatzhofen 15 Apr 1900 German or Austrian (German) München
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Adam Raab Höchst 5 Apr 1901 German or Austrian (German) Höchst
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Zoltan Raab Kiskunhalas 24 Aug 1902 Hungarian Nyirmada
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Johann Raab München 30 Oct 1903 German or Austrian (German) München
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Johann Raab Schweinfurt 25 Mar 1906
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Josef Raab Tracht 7 Oct 1908 German or Austrian (German) Wien
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Leopold Raab München 24 Jun 1909 German or Austrian (German) München
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Alfred Raab Orlau 31 May 1912 1945 Czech Prag I
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Johann Raab Riesendorf 4 Jul 1912 Schweinfurt
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Josef Raab 4 Jul 1915 Polish Straubing
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Erno Raab Sopron 22 Jan 1916 Hungarian Sopron
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Christian Raab Hanh 10 Jul 1921 German or Austrian (German)
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Ladislaus Raab Györ 3 Apr 1927 1945 Hungarian Deca
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Salamon Raab Kolta 20 Dec 1927 Hungarian Kolta



I also saw this (see the name Paul raab is in the article
Document 4 on Slave Labor
fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DOCSLA4.htmWithout consideration of health or age the people were shipped to Germany ... a letter from Paul Raab, a district commissioner in the territory of Wassilkow, ...

http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DOCSLA4.htm

Re: finding grandparents parents

Posted: 13 Dec 2012 5:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
yes i have searched but unable to locate it
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