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Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 10:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Dec 2012 11:12PM GMT
Surnames: English, Englishmann
Daughters of David English ( born Englishmann) and Jessie English (Née Newman ; died, Bergen, NJ)
I am trying to track down the descendants of my above noted cousins. Dorothy was born in Buenos Aries and Mary was born in the USA (Brooklyn or NYC). Mary may still be alive ( born circa 1933)

The family was split when David left Oxford University, in England to marry Jesse. David was born David Englishmann to Isaac and Deborah in Stoud, England. He was the elder brother of my grandmother, Dolly (Leah).

I don't know of Dorothy or Mary ever married or where or when David died. I believe that Jessie died, in her 80's in Bergen, NJ.

I am desperate to locate my musing family and to repair the wrong done to David & Jessie
Linden Rees,
Toronto, Canada

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 12:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Dec 2012 12:17AM GMT
This appears to be David English, dying in Texas in 1960
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JF45-5JM

Here is Jessie - notice the informant is D. Patricia English
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JF45-TT5

The surname for her is not right, but perhaps the daughters didn't know.
Dorothy Patricia English
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JVXZ-KMS

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 12:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
SAN ANTONIO (TEXAS) EXPRESS AND NEWS April 23, 1960 Page 33

ENGLISH

David English, age 69, of 408 Cloverleaf Ave, died Friday at a local hospital. Survivors: Wife Mrs. Jessie English; daughters Miss Mary Grace English, Miss Dorothy Patricia English, all of San Antonio. Arrangements when compeleted will be announced by
PORTER LORING

(Note: I saw another notice that gave his age as 71, which would match his birth year)

SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS April 27, 1960, Page 19

ENGLISH

Mrs. Jessie English, age 61, of 408 Cloverleaf Ave, died Tuesday at a local hospital.She is survived by her daughters, Miss Mary Grace English and Miss Dorothy Patricia English, both of San Antonio. Services Thursday at 11:30 at the Porter Loring Chapel with Dr. Samuel Terry officiating. Interment in Sunset Memorial Park under the direction of Poter Loring.

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 12:43AM GMT
Classification: Query

Name: Jessie English
Arrival Date: 21 Aug 1929
Birth Date: abt 1901
Birth Location: Gt Britain
Birth Location Other: London
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Montevideo, Uruguay
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Voltaire
David English 39 accountant born Stroud, Gt. Britain
Dorothy English 06 born Argentina

1930 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
David English 39 arrived 1929 was 29 when he married public accountant
Jessie English 29 was 19 when she married
Dorothy P English 6 says born England

Name: Jessie English
Arrival Date: 24 Nov 1931
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: London
Age: 31 visa 668003 issued DC 26 Nov 1930
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Havana, Cuba
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Morro Castle
David English 40 occupation special re'tive born Stroud.Glos. England, immigration visa R. Permit 719173 issued Washington DC 19 May 1931 last permanent residence Brooklyn, USA
Dorothy English 07 born London visa 668325 issued DC 26 Nov 1930

Name: Jessie English
Arrival Date: 16 Aug 1937
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: London
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: American;English (American)
Place of Origin: United States of America
Port of Departure: Havana, Cuba
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: California
David English 45
Dorothy English 14 B. Aires, Argentina
Mary English 06 born USA 13 May 1931

1940 Assembly Dist 21, Brooklyn, New York City, Kings county, NY
head David English M 44 England, 168 East 29th Street, same address in 1935, employed as Asst. export of ? factory
wife Jessie English F 39 England
daughter Dotorthy English F 17 Argentina
daughter Mary English F 7 New York

name: David English
event: Draft Registration
event date: 1942
event place: 168 East 29th St, Kings Co, New York
gender: Male
birth date: 04 Sep 1888 Gloucestershire England, Jessie English nearest relative
nara publication title: World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of New York, Kings, Borough of Brooklyn
nara publication number:
arc identifier: 2555973
film number: 2369482
digital folder number: 004126580
image number: 05176

Name: Jessie English
Age: 43
Birth Date: abt 1900
Issue Date: 25 Feb 1943
Petition #: 347503
State: New York address 168 E. 29th Street, Brooklyn
Locality, Court: Eastern District of New York, District Court

Name: Dorothy Patricia English
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1923
Issue Date: 30 Aug 1945
State: New York, 401 E 23rd St, Brooklyn petition 434763
Locality, Court: Eastern District of New York, District Court

Name: David English
Birth: 31 Aug 1891
Death: Mar 1966 - Camden, Camden, New Jersey, United States of America
Civil: New Jersey

There was a David English born in Georgia USA abt 1891 that lived in Camden in 1940 also registered WW II draft there in 1942 said he was born 01 Jan 1891 in Georgia.

Sorry, find no one researching this family and I am not related.

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 12:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you and the two other correspondents (I've tried, in vain, to respond to them too) for your kindness. I have been trying to find my family for over 40 years.

My e mail address is : daibach@bell.net

I'd love to establish how you all found out what you did.

Hat a eobnderfulmXmas New Year's gift from you all

Linden

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 1:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you so very much. This is so very kind of you.

The names all match too well not to be the family I've searched for for 40 years.

I found a JessievEnglish who died in Bergen, NJ in about 1977. I'm not sure which is the correct one now.

My e mail address is ; daibach@bell.net

Thanks again :-)

Linden

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 1:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
I searched at www.familysearch.org (free site) for a David English born England 1887-1889 (I got his birth year from the http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ which is also a free site)
You have to register at familysearch to see the actual certificate. Then I searched for them on a newspaper archives site.

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 1:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
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Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 1:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank again ; I shall try and follow your lead.

I'd really like to thank you again for your help:-)

Linden

Re: Dorothy Patricia English / Mary Goldie English

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 2:25PM GMT
Classification: Query

Name: Mary G. English
Last Residence: 78233 San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, United States of America
Born: 13 May 1931
Died: 27 Jun 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

Name: Mary English
Residence Year: 1960
Street Address: 408 Cloverleaf
Residence Place: San Antonio, Texas
Occupation: Ofc Sec for Firestone
Publication Title: San Antonio, Texas, City Directory, 1960
& Pat English 408 Cloverleaf sec for W E Bakke

They are listed at this address in 1959 as well.
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