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Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 5:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pries
Can anyone help me with Peter and his wife Friederika?

They had at least one child, John Henry Peter Pries (1841-1906) who emmigrated from Germany to USA sometime before 1866.

I'm looking for the shipping/travel records for leaving Germany and arriving in the USA.

Son, John Henry Peter emmigrated from the USA aboard the Sea Star of Sunderland leaving San Francisco and arrived in Sydney, Australia on 03.04.1866 on his own.

It is said... that he left a sister in the USA and that his twin brother also emmigrated to Australia. I have not been able to prove or disprove this.

Any assistance would be gratefully received as I am not able to access USA records and can not read or access German ones.

Hoping to hear from anyone :)

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 4:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Mar 2013 4:47PM GMT
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Peter Pries
Name: Peter Pries
Arrival Date: 12 Mar 1890
Birth Date: abt 1821
Age: 69
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Luxembourg
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Friesland
Search Ship Database: Search the Friesland in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database




1880 United States Federal Census about Marx Eckmann
Name: Marx Eckmann
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: Holst
Home in 1880: Davenport, Scott, Iowa
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Holst
Mother's Birthplace: Holst
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Carpenter
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Pries 63
Friederika Pries 62
Marx Eckmann 38
Agnes Eckmann 28
Henry Eckmann 6
Hugo Eckmann 5
Friederika Eckmann 4
Emil Eckmann 2
Doris Pries 24


Looks like whoever translated couldn't read the writing and mispelled his name

1860 United States Federal Census about Peter Price
Name: Peter Price
Age in 1860: 43
Birth Year: abt 1817
Birthplace: Holstein
Home in 1860: Pleasant Valley, Scott, Iowa
Gender: Male
Post Office: Pleasant Valley
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Price 43
Fredrica Price 42
Henry Price 16
Crestina Price 13
Eliza Price 10
Agnes Price 8
Mina Price 6
Autof Price 4
Minnie Price 6/12
George Cornelius 17
Gasper Shoemaker 57

Iowa, State Census Collection, 1836-1925 about P H Pries
Name: P H Pries
Birth Year: abt 1818
Birth Place: Germany
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Census Date: 1856
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Scott
Locality: Pleasant Valley
Roll: IA_65
Line: 25
Family Number: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
P H Pries 38
H F Pries 38
H Pries 15
Christina Pries 10
Eliza Pries 7
Agnes Pries 5
Mena Pries 3
Adrof Pris

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 4:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
New York Port, Ship Images, 1851-1891 about Peter Pries
Name: Peter Pries
Arrival Date: 12 Mar 1890
Age: 69
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Ship route: Antwerp-NY
Port of Arrival: New York, United States
Ship Name: Friesland
Ship built: 1889
Shipping Line: Red Star Line
Ship tonnage: 6,409 tons
Ship Description: 4 masts, 1 funnel

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 9:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
1850 United States Federal Census
District 4, Scott, Iowa
15 November 1850
Peter Pries, 33, m, Farmer, 800, Germany
Fredrica ", 32, f, Germany
Henry ", 7, m, Germany
Christina ", 5, f, Germany
Eliza ", 1, f, Iowa
Fritz ", 35, m, Farmer, 800, Germany
John ", 25, m, Farmer, 600, Germany
(Indexed as Peter Price)

If the birthplaces are correct on this census, they came to Iowa between Christina (5) and Eliza (1)... so between 1845 and 1849. And you can see there is no twin brother for Henry. Also it looks like John and Fritz are probably brothers to Peter and may have come at the same time


1870 Census
Pleasant Valley, Scott Iowa
Post office: Pleasant City
Priest, Peter, 52, m, w, Farmer, 45000, 15000, Holstein
Fredricka, 52, f, w, Keeps House, Holstein
Agnes, 18, f, w, at home, Iowa
Amelia, 16, f, w, at home, Iowa
Otto, 14, m, w, at home, Iowa
Peter, 9, m, w, Iowa
Ketsner, Frederica, 97, f, w, Holstein

(same page, lower down)
Priest, Hans H, 56, m, w, farmer, 2000, 500, Holstein
Christina, 58, f, w, Keeps house, Holstein
Pollena, 18, f, w, At home, Holstein


1860 Census
Pleasant Valley, Scott, Iowa
106/102 John Price, 34, m, farmer, 4800, 1575, Holstein
Susan, 40, f, Holstein
Mary, 8, f, Iowa
John, 5, f, Iowa (marked as female)
Doris, 3, f, Iowa
Emma, 1, f, Iowa
John Kritsfelft, 34, m, Farm hand, Holstein
Katherine ", 34, f, Holstein
Margaret ", 13, f, Holstein
Emma ", 9/12, Iowa
Paul Shoemaker, 16, m, Holstein

Next household
107/103 Fritz Price, 45, m, Farmer, 4200, 900, Holstein
Katherine, 21, f, Holstein
John, 1, m, Iowa
Hans Kush, 43, m, Holstein

108/104 Peter Price, 43, m, Farmer, 5900, 1500, Holstein
Fredrica, 42, f, Holstein
Henry, 16, m, Holstein
Cristina, 13, f, Holstein
Eliza, 10, f, Iowa
Agnes, 8, f, Iowa
Mina, 6, f, Iowa
Autof, 4, m, Iowa
Minnie, 1/12, f, Iowa
George Cornelius, 17, m, Holstein
Gasper Shoemaker, 57, m, Holstein

Next household
109/105 Henry Price, 54, m, Farmer, Holstein
Christine, 46, f, 1500, 200, Holstein
Paulina, 8, f, Holstein
W M Long 30, m, Farmer, 1380, Pennsylvania


Find-a-Grave
Peter Pries
Birth: Apr. 2, 1818, Germany
Death: Nov. 11, 1890
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA

Peter married Fredricka.


Burial:
Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA
Plot: Section 2 Lot 99

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PR...;


Fredrika Pries
Birth: 1819, Germany
Death: Jul. 12, 1880
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA

Fredricka was the wife of Peter Pries.


Burial:
Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA
Plot: Section 2 Lot 99

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Pr...;

Peter remarried at some point after Fredrica's death in 1880.

1885 Iowa State Census
Davenport Ward 2, Scott, Iowa
Peter Pries, 818 W 9th, 66, m, Retired farmer, Ger
Anna ", 54, f, Ger
Anna Swendorf, 77, f, Ger

Davenport Morning Tribune (Davenport, Iowa)
16 November 1890, page 4
Saturday the will of the late Peter Pries was filed for probate. To his wife Anna Pries, he gives $500 and all the household furniture. To each of his four daughters he gives $500; to his son Henry, $500; to his son Adolph, $200; to his grad daughter, Meta, the daughter of Adolph $300. His wife is appointed executrix without Bond.
(Spelling of "grad daughter" as written in article)

Apparently the only other son besides Henry surviving his father is Adolph Pries


In 1880 Adolph Pries is in Moline, Rock Island, Illinois

He died in 1900 and is buried in Davenport Iowa
Adolph Pries
Birth: Feb. 17, 1856, Germany
Death: Feb. 28, 1900
Wisconsin, USA



Burial:
Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA
Plot: Section 2 Lot 99

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PR...;

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 10:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Burial:
Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA
Plot: Section 2 Lot 99

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PR...;





Iowa, County Marriages, 1838-1934
Name: Peter Pries
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 05 Jun 1883
Event Place: Scott, Iowa, United States
Age: 65
Birth Year (Estimated): 1818
Father's Name: Henry Pries
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Stuht
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: ...Na C. Becke [Anna C Becker]
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Age: 53
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1830
Spouse's Father's Name: Henry F. Lohndorf
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Richter
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID: Vol 1 p102
GS Film number: 1004421
Digital Folder Number: 004309876
Image Number: 109

"Iowa, County Marriages, 1838-1934," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCWG-8BG : accessed 15 Mar 2013), Peter Pries and ...Na C. Becke, 1883.

Note Peter's parents' names. Also other copies of the same record say "Anna C Becker" for the wife. Note that is a married name for her. Her father's surname is Lohndorf.


Son Adolph marriage
Name: Adolph Pries
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Dec 1890
Event Place: Iowa City, Johnson, Iowa, United States
Age: 34
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Father's Name: Peter Pries
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Friederika Tusna
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Friederika Heinold
Spouse's Titles and Terms: Spouse's Age: 39
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1851
Spouse's Father's Name: Danzenbach
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rebecca Hoolach
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID:
GS Film number: 1674088
Digital Folder Number: 004320749
Image Number: 1205
"Iowa, County Marriages, 1838-1934," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XJF1-1N3 : accessed 15 Mar 2013), Peter Pries in entry for Adolph Pries and Friederika Heinold, 1890.

Note this is not likely Adolph's first married since it is just a little over a month after his father's death, and his father's will mentions Adolph's daughter Meta.

Here's another marriage for Adolph

Iowa, Marriages, 1851-1900
about Adolph B Pries
Name: Adolph B Pries
Gender: Male
Spouse: Arvina Stohl
Marriage Date: 27 Oct 1877
County: Scott
State: Iowa

The 1880 census, Adolph is in Illinois. Arvina is??? Daughter Meta, mentioned in Peter's will is living with the England family as a niece (1 year old). Christina England is the daughter of Peter and Fredrica

1880 United States Federal Census
Davenport, Scott, Iowa
England, John, w, m, 44, m, Deals in farm machinery, Schlesvieg, ? ?
Christina, w, f, 34, wife, m, Keeping house, Holstein, Holstein, Holstein
Anna, w, f, 14, daughter, s, at school, Iowa, Schlesvieg, Holstein
Fredericka, w, f, 12, daughter, s, at school, Iowa, Schlesvieg, Holstein
Alvina, w, f, 10, daughter, s, at school, Iowa, Schlesvieg, Holstein
Agnes, w, f, 8, Daughter, s, at school, Iowa, Schlesvieg, Holstein
Johnne, w, m, 6, son, s, Iowa, Schlesvieg, Holstein
Pries, Meta, w, f, 1, Niece, s, Iowa, Iowa, Holstein


Alwina Stahl Pries
Birth: Dec. 28, 1853
Death: Mar. 11, 1879, USA

Buried beside Adolph Pries


Burial:
Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Davenport
Scott County
Iowa, USA
Plot: Section 2 Lot 99
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PR...;



Peter & Fredrica's daughter Agnes married Max Eckmann (the 1880 census record someone else provided)

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 15 Mar 2013 10:55PM GMT
Classification: Query

Meta Pries, daughter of Adolph and Alvina appears as Meta England on the 1900 census in Farmington, Cedar, Iowa. She marries and lists John & Christina (Pries) England as her parents.



Name: Earnest Lantz
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Mar 1901
Event Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States
Age: 31
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Father's Name: Charles Lantz
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Charlotte Lieb
Mother's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Name: Meta England
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1878
Spouse's Father's Name: John England
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Christine Pries
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID: Vol 1 p 118 L#14075
GS Film number: 1004421
Digital Folder Number: 004309876
Image Number: 794
"Iowa, County Marriages, 1838-1934," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XJVD-JW5 : accessed 15 Mar 2013), Christine Pries in entry for Earnest Lantz and Meta England, 1901.

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 1:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pries
Thank you so much kumeyaayindian & Joyful.

It appears that the family arrived between 1845 & 1849.
And that their son Henry doesn't appear anywhere after 1860?!

Henry is 3 years younger than my John Henry Peter but that's entirely possible, so is changing the order of his name I guess... He seems to have been a bit of a shrewd business man here in Australia so I wouldn't put anything past him.

Now I'll enter all that wonderful information and get my head around it all.

Thank you once again, you have both been very helpful!

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 2:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
You are quite welcome... anytime ... Karen

Re: Peter PRIES born abt 1817 in Holstein Germany

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 12:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pries
Hi Karen

Thank you for all your help. I have now been able to rule out this family as my John Henry Peter Pries'.

They did have a son Henry a couple of years younger than my John Henry.
Their Henry is on the census records and he is buried in the same plot as his parents Peter and Friederika Pries. My John HP Pries is buried in Sydney.
Peter's probate menitions 4 daughters and 2 sons Henry and Adolph. The daughters are Christina, Eliza, Agnes and Mena.

I'm now wondering if John HP left Germany in 1867 bound for Australia via the San Francisco port without his family. That would account for him not being on any census records. Maybe his sisters immigrated to the US as adults too.

*sigh* He's a hard nut to crack!

Thanks again and happy researchng :)
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