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Ronsman Family

Posted: 24 Jan 2013 8:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ronsman
Looking for Obituaries or any info for
Louis Henry Ronsman b. 3-28-1894 d. 12-10-1980
Martha ? Ronsman b. 3-15-1896 d. 7-3-1957
Norman Ronsman b. 9-7 1916 d. 8-26 1963
Other children were Ione,Shirley & Alden
The Ronsman family lived in the Seymour area.
I am trying to find Martha's maiden name.
Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 7 Apr 2013 9:01AM GMT
Classification: Cemetery
Surnames: RONSMAN, MUENSTER
would they have a copy @

St John Catholic Cemetery
Seymour
Outagamie County
Wisconsin, USA
Plot: north section

where the couple are buried + daughter Shirley Ronsman Muenster

Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 14 Apr 2013 3:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, I am not related. Hope this helps. Ruth Pokorny
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According to the Appleton Public Library obituary index for Louis, his first wife was Martha Goerling. His second wife was Mathilda Diedrick ....according to Martha's obit index, she was born in Wausau ....

http://db.apl.org/obit/

Louis Ronsman
Spouse: Mathilda Diedrick Request a Photocopy
Born: March 28, 1894
Place of Birth: New Franken, WI
Obituary
Newspaper: Post-Crescent
Notice Date: December 11, 1980
Section: D
Page: 8
Type: OB
Cemetery
Name: St. John Catholic
Location: Seymour, WI
Notes
age 86, first wife Martha Goerling
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Ronsman
Spouse: Louis Ronsman Request a Photocopy
Born: March 15, 1896
Died: July 3, 1957
Place of Birth: Wausau, WI
Obituary
Newspaper: Post-Crescent
Notice Date: July 5, 1957
Section:
Page: 10
Type: OB
Cemetery
Name: St. John
Location: Seymour, WI
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Shirley L. Muenster
Maiden Name: Ronsman
Spouse: Karl Muenster Request a Photocopy
Born: May 23, 1925
Died: October 19, 1986
Place of Birth: New Franklin, WI
Obituary
Newspaper: Post-Crescent
Notice Date: October 20, 1986
Section: C
Page: 5
Type: OB
Cemetery
Name: St. John
Location: Seymour, WI
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Mathilda Ronsman
Maiden Name: Diedrich
Spouse: Louis Ronsman Request a Photocopy
Born: October 17, 1904
Died: August 9, 1975
Obituary
Newspaper: Post-Crescent
Notice Date: August 11, 1975
Section: B
Page: 7
Type: OB
Cemetery
Name: Highland Memorial Park
Location: Appleton, WI
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Mathilda Ronsman
Maiden Name: Diedrich
Spouse: Louis Ronsman Request a Photocopy
Born: October 17, 1904
Died: August 9, 1975
Obituary
Newspaper: Post-Crescent
Notice Date: August 11, 1975
Section: B
Page: 7
Type: OB
Cemetery
Name: Holy Cross
Location: Kaukauna, WI

Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 14 Apr 2013 3:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again, this seems to be Martha, and her 4 siblings, Gertrude, Nicholas, Leona, and Laura.

Martha was adopted by Herman and Anna Kriescher, who lived in Preble, Brown County. Before that, Martha and her siblings were living at the St Joseph's Orphan Asylum in Allouez, Brown County.......the marrige record for Martha and Louis is most likely in Brown County in Green Bay.
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St Joseph's Orphan Asylum (all 5 children in same place)

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Martha Goerling
Age: 5
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1900: Allouez, Brown, Wisconsin[Brown]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Laura Goerling
Age: 8
Birth Date: abt 1892
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1900: Allouez, Brown, Wisconsin[Brown]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Leona Goerling
Age: 7
Birth Date: abt 1893
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1900: Allouez, Brown, Wisconsin[Brown]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Gertrude Goerling
Age: 12
Birth Date: Aug 1887
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1900: Allouez, Brown, Wisconsin[Brown]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicolas Goerling [Nieolas Goerling]
Age: 10
Birth Date: Aug 1889
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1900: Allouez, Brown, Wisconsin[Brown]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
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Martha was listed under her adoptive parent's name in 1905..

Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Mortha Kruescher
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Brown
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Preble
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Marital Status: Single
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: HermanKruescher
Mother's Name: Anna Kruescher
Line: 24
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Herman Kruescher 31
Anna Kruescher 32
Mortha Kruescher 9
Loyd Kruescher 2
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1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Myrtha Garling[Martha Garling]
Age in 1910: 14
Birth Year: abt 1896[1896]
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1910: Preble, Brown, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Adopted
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Mother's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Household Members: Name Age
Herman J Kriescher 35
Anna M Kriescher 37
Lloyd Kriescher 6
Myrtha Garling 14
Henry Sheering 58
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1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Louis Ronsman[Louise Ronsman]
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Humboldt, Brown, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Martha Ronsman
Father's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Mother's Birthplace: Belgium
Home owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Ronsman 25
Martha Ronsman 23
Norman Ronsman 3
Iona Ronsman 0 [3/12]


Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 14 Apr 2013 3:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Gertrude Dorothea Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1887
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nic Goerling
Father's Birthplace: America
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Augusta Welitz
Mother's Birthplace: America
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-8
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305085
Reference ID: item 3 p 138
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6H-NFJ : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Gertrude Dorothea Goerling, 01 Aug 1887.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Nicholas Valentine Goerling
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Auguste Wehlitz
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 1 p 335
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6F-SH3 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Valentine Goerling, 01 Aug 1889.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Lora Auguste Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1891
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicolas Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Auguste Welitz
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 2 p 214
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6D-G38 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Lora Auguste Goerling, 27 Aug 1891.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Leona Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1893
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Auguste Welitz
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 2 p 540
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6D-29N : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Leona Goerling, 19 Dec 1893.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Martha J. Gaueling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1896
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nich Gaueling
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Augusti Wilitz
Mother's Birthplace: German
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00319-0
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305087
Reference ID: P 47 rn 277
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6F-1M9 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Martha J. Gaueling, 15 Mar 1896.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Nicklaus Gorling
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Auguste Friedricke Wehlitz
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 15 Feb 1882
Event Place: Marathon, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Johann Gorling
Mother's Name: Anna Maria Gorling
Spouse's Father's Name: Carl Wehlitz
Spouse's Mother's Name: Charlotte Wehlitz
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00810-0
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1292016
Reference ID: 02778
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRVQ-DLZ : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicklaus Gorling and Auguste Friedricke Wehlitz, 15 Feb 1882.

Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 14 Apr 2013 11:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again, I found more information. Besides Martha's 4 siblings, Gertrude, Nicholas, Leona, and Laura, I found 2 more. Anna M., and Eleanor/Ella/Elouise, who died at age of about 2. Leona married a Cromwell, and eventually went to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Nicholas married Sophia Monian, and moved to Monterey, California, where he died in 1956. They had 3 known children, Eugenia, Barbara, and Ruth. Ruth married a Gordon and died in 1982.

If I am right, Their mother, Augusta (Wehlitz) Goerling was put in an asylum in Marathon County, and has been there since at least 1910 until 1930. I couldn't find her in the 1900 & 1905 census yet. I didn't find her in 1940 census, ao maybe she died by then.

Their father Nicholas Goerling, seems to have been married once before to Henriette Kickenbush, and had at least 6 children with her, John, Carl, Peter, Joseph, Ida & Louis. These would be Martha's half siblings. See next post for this family....
Ruth Pokorny
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Anna M Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1883
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Augusta Welitz
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00319-0
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305087
Reference ID: P 699 rn 2755
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6F-F55 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Anna M Goerling, 21 Sep 1883
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Eleanor Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1884
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Augusta Relitz
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 3 p 343
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR66-5V9 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Eleanor Goerling, 01 Dec 1884.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Ella Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1884
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon Co., Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nick. Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Auguste Wehlitz
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-7
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305085
Reference ID: item 2 p 447
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6Z-3K9 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nick. Goerling in entry for Ella Goerling, 01 Dec 1884.
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"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968"
Name: Eloise Goerling
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 09 Aug 1886
Death Place: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Age: 1
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1884
Birthplace: Wausau
Occupation:
Race: White
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Augusta Wueltz
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06533-7
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1306212
Reference ID: P488
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968," index, FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XLWD-MFF : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Eloise Goerling, 01 Dec 1884.
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Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Laura Goerling
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Brown
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Allouez
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Race: White
Line: 8
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_2
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Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Leons Goerling (Leona)
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Brown
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Allouez
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Race: White
Line: 9
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_2
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Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Nicholis Gorling
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Green Lake
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Mackford
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Marital Status: Single
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Race: White
Relation: Servant
Line: 37
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Chas Mclaughlin 76
Bridget Mclaughlin 60
Edward Mclaughlin 34
Nicholis Gorling 15
Gust Weber 22
Rosa Setchoff 16
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1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Nick Goerling[Nick Goerling] [Goesling]
Age in 1910: 20
Birth Year: abt 1890[1890]
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1910: Wausau Ward 7, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: United States
[United States of America]
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gus Steinberg 56
Elizebeth Steinberg 50
Theo Steinberg 22
Richard Steinberg 18
Elma Steinberg 19 [14]
Walter Steinberg 15
Irene Steinberg 9
Nick Goesling 20
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1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Nick Goerling
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Wausau Ward 3, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Heneretta Goerling 70
Heneretta Goerling 38
Nick Goerling 30
Arthur Scherbast 23[22]
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1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Race: White
Home in 1930: Monterey, Monterey, California
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophie Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Goerling 39
Sophie Goerling 40
Eugenia Goerling 9
Barbara Goerling 7
Ruth Goerling 5
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1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Respondent: Yes
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Monterey, Monterey, California
View Map
Street: Franklin Street
House Number: 739
Inferred Residence in 1935: Monterey, Monterey, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 4A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 66
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: France
Occupation: Warehouseman
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 25
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Duration of Unemployment: 476
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in Government work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1320
Income Other Sources: No
Native Language: English
Veteran: Yes
Military service: World War
Social Security Number: Yes
Usual Occupation: Chauffeur
Usual Industry: Private Home
Usual Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Goerling 50
Sophia A Goerling 50 born Wisconsin
Eugenia M Goerling 19 born California
Barbara F Goerling 16 born California
Ruth E Goerling 15 born California
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"California, Death Index, 1940-1997"
Name: Nicholas Valentine Goerling
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 20 Sep 1956
Event Place: Monterey, California, United States
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Goerling
Mother's Name: Wehlitz
Citing this Record
"California, Death Index, 1940-1997," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VPW3-5NV : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Valentine Goerling, 1956.
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"United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918"
Name: Nickholas Rolland Goerling
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: Marathon County no 2, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Birthplace: Wausau, Wisconsin, United States
Nationality: United States
Affiliate Publication Title: World War I Selective Service System
Draft Registration Cards
Affiliate Publication Number: M1509
GS Film number: 1674774
Digital Folder Number: 005251482
Image Number: 01927
Citing this Record
"United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8QY-TB2 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nickholas Rolland Goerling, 1917-1918.
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"United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942"
Name: Nicholas Valentine R Goerling
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Monterey, Monterey, California
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th
Registration) for the State of California
Affiliate Publication Number:
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 603155
GS Film number: 2407759
Digital Folder Number: 004667506
Image Number: 01974
Citing this Record
"United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V48F-LP4 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Valentine R Goerling, 1942.
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"California, Death Index, 1940-1997"
Name: Ruth Gordon
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 24 Jan 1982
Event Place: Monterey, California, United States
Birth Date: 09 Mar 1925
Birthplace: California
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Goerling
Mother's Name: Monian
Citing this Record
"California, Death Index, 1940-1997," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VGGP-6ZX : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Goerling in entry for Ruth Gordon, 1982.
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Seems to be Laona....Leona....

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Laura Goerling[Lorna Goesling] [Goerling]
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Milwaukee Ward 3, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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"Brazil, Rio de Janeiro, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965"
Name: Leona G.Cromwell
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1945
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Nationality: United States
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1893
Birthplace: Wasau,Wisc,EUA
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Mother's Name: Augusta Wehlitz Goerling
Traveling With Children: No
Digital Folder Number: 004771499
Image Number: 00012
Citing this Record
"Brasil, Cartões de Imigração, 1900-1965," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1S1-8N3 :
accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Leona
G.Cromwell, 1945.
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Marathon County Insane Asylum

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Augusta Goerling [Augusta Goerling]
Age in 1910: 47
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1910: Weston, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Patient
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
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Marathon County Insane Asylum & Home

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Augusta Goerling[Augusta Goesling]
Age: 54[34]
Birth Year: abt 1866[abt 1886]
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1920: Weston, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
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Marathon County Asylum

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Augusta Goerling
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Germany
Race: White
Home in 1930: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Insane
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany

Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 15 Apr 2013 12:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Oops in last post. It was Kickbush, not Kickenbush.

Here is the information of Nicholas Goerling's first family, and wife Henriette Kickbush. This marriage record seems to have the same parents for Nicholas as was in his marriage to Augusta Wehlitz.
Nicholas may have been in the Northern Hospital for Insane, in Winnebago County in 1900, and may have died there 20 Aug 1900.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Henrietta W. F. Kickbusch
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 14 May 1870
Event Place: Manitowoc, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Johann Goerling
Mother's Name: Anna Maria Muller
Spouse's Father's Name: Carl Kickbusch
Spouse's Mother's Name: Caroline Marquardt
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00723-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1292016
Reference ID: 01657
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRNG-DZF : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling and Henrietta W. F. Kickbusch, 14 May 1870.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Charles Goerling
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1871
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hemnia Kickbusch
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 3 p 351
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6F-8HN : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Charles Goerling, 21 Feb 1871.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Joseph Goerling
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 29 Nov 1875
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Henrica Kickbush
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00319-0
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305087
Reference ID: P 624 rn 2310
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6N-F4G : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Joseph Goerling, 29 Nov 1875.
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"United States Census, 1880"
Name: Nicolaus Goerling
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Stettin, Marathon, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farmer
Race (Original):
Ethnicity: American
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Ohio, United States
Birth Date: 1848
Spouse's Name: Henriette Goerling
Spouse's Birthplace: Germany
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Page: 414
Page Letter: A
Entry Number: 2078
Affiliate Film Number: T9-1433
GS Film number: 1255433
Digital Folder Number: 004244756
Image Number: 00840
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Nicolaus Goerling M 32 Ohio, United States
Wife Henriette Goerling F 31 Germany
Son John Goerling M 10 Wisconsin, United States
Son Carl Goerling M 8 Wisconsin, United States
Son Peter Goerling M 7 Wisconsin, United States
Son Joseph Goerling M 5 Wisconsin, United States
Daughter Ida Goerling F 3 Wisconsin, United States
Son Louis Goerling M 0 Wisconsin, United States
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MN4B-7HS : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicolaus Goerling, 1880.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Peter Louis Goerling
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Wausau, Wis.
Age:
Spouse's Name: Lucy Casey Or Bellis
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace: Oshkosh, Wis.
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 19 Aug 1903
Event Place: Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Mother's Name: Henrietta Kieckbush
Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Casey
Spouse's Mother's Name: Elizabeth Delaney
Race: White
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01096-6
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1014014
Reference ID: P300,CN1919, Vol 151
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRXB-RDP : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Peter Louis Goerling and Lucy Casey Or Bellis, 19 Aug 1903.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Louis G. Goerling
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Wausau
Age:
Spouse's Name: Mary A. Garry
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace: Manawa
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 19 Jun 1907
Event Place: Manawa, Waupaca, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Mother's Name: Henrietta Kickbusch
Spouse's Father's Name: Patrick Gurry
Spouse's Mother's Name: Margaret Griffin
Race: White
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00332-8
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1275607
Reference ID: cn 25 p 441
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR2W-QHC : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Louis G. Goerling and Mary A. Garry, 19 Jun 1907.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Charles N. Goerling
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Mary Behm
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 10 Jun 1893
Event Place: Marathon, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Nic Goerling
Mother's Name: Henriette Kickbusch
Spouse's Father's Name: William Behm
Spouse's Mother's Name: Louise Duchow
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00724-1
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1292018
Reference ID: 2418
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRNR-QKK : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nic Goerling in entry for Charles N. Goerling and Mary Behm, 10 Jun 1893.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Joseph B. Goerling
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Mathews
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 25 Aug 1898
Event Place: Marathon, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Nicolas Goerling
Mother's Name: Henriette Kickbusch
Spouse's Father's Name: John L. Mathews
Spouse's Mother's Name: Kruetz
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00724-2
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1292019
Reference ID: 791
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRNR-YL1 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicolas Goerling in entry for Joseph B. Goerling and Elizabeth Mathews, 25 Aug 1898.
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"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Otto Ebersold
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Ida Goerling
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 17 May 1900
Event Place: Marathon, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Simon Ebersold
Mother's Name: Karoline Menzner
Spouse's Father's Name: Nic Goerling
Spouse's Mother's Name: Kickbusch
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00724-2
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1292019
Reference ID: 1313
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRNT-HHN : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nic Goerling in entry for Otto Ebersold and Ida Goerling, 17 May 1900.
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"United States Census, 1900"
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 164 Northern Hospital for Insane, Winnebago, Wisconsin, United States
Birth Date: 1850
Birthplace: Germany
Relationship to Head of Household:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Birthplace:
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1899
Mother of how many children:
Number of Living Children:
Immigration Year:
Page: 10
Sheet Letter: B
Family Number:
Reference ID: 89
GS Film number: 1241825
Digital Folder Number: 004120651
Image Number: 00251
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MM2T-FWF : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling, 1900.
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"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968"
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Gender: Male
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 20 Aug 1900
Death Place: Winnebago, Wisconsin
Age: 50
Birth Date: 1850
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race: White
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06571-1
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1311665
Reference ID: 2164
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XL6M-X2H : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling, 1850.
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These next records don't make sense to me. Was one of these the death of Nicholas' first wife, Henriette? How can one child be born in Feb. and one in March of the same year with same parents?

"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Meurica Maria Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1881
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nichol Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Henrica
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 3 p 271
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR66-BY4 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nichol Goerling in entry for Meurica Maria Goerling, 28 Feb 1881.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Wilhelmine Henriette Tugendreich Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 29 Mar 1881
Birthplace: Settin, Marathon Co., Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicolaus Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Wilhelmine Henriette Kickbusch
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-7
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305085
Reference ID: item 2 p 219
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6Z-FQF : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicolaus Goerling in entry for Wilhelmine Henriette Tugendreich Goerling, 29 Mar 1881.
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"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968"
Name: Wilhelmine Henriette Tugendreich
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place: Stettin
Death Date: 31 Mar 1881
Death Place: Stettin, Marathon, Wisconsin
Age:
Birth Date: 31 Mar 1881
Birthplace: Germany
Occupation: Farmer
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nicolaus Goerling
Father's Name: Karl Kickbusch
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06534-0
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1306212
Reference ID: 81
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XLDM-TZW : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicolaus Goerling in entry for Wilhelmine Henriette Tugendreich, 31 Mar 1881.

Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 15 Apr 2013 12:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank You so much for this information. Martha's maiden name was a mystery. This info explains why. I figured she had to be from the New Franken area like Louis was, but I couldnt find any info on her. Thanks again!
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