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Castlecomer, Wandesforde Estate

Castlecomer, Wandesforde Estate

Posted: 17 Oct 1998 12:00PM GMT
Edited: 9 Jul 2001 1:16AM GMT

Castlecomer

Posted: 8 Jan 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 24 Jun 2001 6:39PM GMT
Surnames: DUNN, CASS
My great grandparents and all their children came from Castlecomer, Kilkenny, to the US in the 1860s. In Ireland they lived on Wandesforde property which covered many townlands and the coal mines in the area. The Topographical Dictionary of 1837 by Lewis has detailed information and is
found in most genealogy libraries and family history centers. My family lived on both Skehana and Firoda townlands northwest of Castlecomer and I believe there were Brennans found on one or both. If you like I could look up my research for the Tithe Applotment and Griffiths Valuation
and send you what I have in my notes. Good luck.

Brennan

John Murphy (View posts)
Posted: 3 Feb 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Kate Brennan and Edward Murphy sponsored my greataunt Mary Murphy on 24th of Aug. 1856 in Crutt. My ggp are John Murphy and Mary Walsh. John was 78 in the 1901 census.

Wandesford assisted emigrations

Mike O'Shea (View posts)
Posted: 4 Feb 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello, While on a genealogical trip to Kilkenny a few years ago I purchased a very useful book written by William Nolan called "FASSADININ, Land, Settlement & Society in South-East Ireland 1600-1850". The book does an excellant job of covering the Wandesford demesne. He was one of the few landed gentry who actually assisted emigration from about 1840 through 1853 to Canada the USA and Australia. The book also covers this, but, unfortunately does not give names. I contacted the author who indicated that very good records were kept by the Wandesford family on all individuals they assisted to emigrate. These records are now housed in the basement of the National Library in Dublin. When I tried to
access them I was told that very little of the estates papers had been indexed and that until they were public access was restricted. Very discouraging to me since my great-grandfather also left Castlecomer during 1842 leaving his mother and probably a brother and a sister living on the John Brennan Estate at Woodview in Gorteen. I'm certain there must be some way that those emigration papers could be located, but it will probably be years before that occurs. Hope this has helped a little bit. Purchasing the book should be rather easy. I bought mine at the Rothe House in Kilkenny City and I'm sure they probably still carry it. It's certainly a book every researcher in Kilkenny and particularly the northern area around Castlecomer should have. Mike O'Shea, Norfolk Virginia, USA

Wandesford

Posted: 27 Feb 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 12 Dec 2002 8:47PM GMT
Surnames: Dreaper, Houghton, Fowler, Lester, Shortall
I have read Mr. Nolan's book and sought to review the Wandesford papers in the National Library in Dublin. I was able to receive a permit after a lengthy application, but ran out of time to study them next visit to begin again.But the point is that in 1995 the Library would provide authorization, taking a couple of days, but I would love to do it. My ancestors were Dreaper/Edge/Houghton/Tracey were
Church of Ireland. They married Catholic Shortalls, Fowlers/Lesters and setlled in Ontario, Canada 1820-1840.
Most of family from Castlcomer,Kilkenny. The Lesters from Castle Dungarvan Kilkenny or Waterford I am seeking links to all the above T.F Draper Connecticut, USA

Estate

S Miller (View posts)
Posted: 11 Mar 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brennan
You said something about a John Brennan, do you have any dates or wifes name. I have an ancestor Owen John born 1816. born in Stranvolan, Ireland. I think that is the county and not he city but I am a hick and have no idea how to tell the city. I am just intrested if it is my ancestor what if any information you could give on the John Brennan Estate,
Thank you so much
S Miller
Posted: 31 Jul 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Apr 2002 8:50PM GMT
I am interested in the Ryan family form Kilkenny. I am just beginning my search for family who settled in Pa.
Thanks for your help.
Posted: 5 Oct 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Nov 2001 6:31PM GMT
Surnames: Ryan
I think I can help you on your search. My great-grandmother was Annebelle Ryan who was born in Girardsville, PA. Her parents were Martin Ryan(from Castelcomer, Kilkenny County, Ireland) and Mary Elizabeth Ryan (from Wexford County, Ireland). There were many brothers and sisters. I have a family bible and other relatives who are over in Ireland now doing research. Please let me know if you are interested or if you think we have a connection. It would be so good to find family.

Ryans from Pa.

Posted: 9 Oct 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Apr 2002 8:50PM GMT
Surnames: Ryan, Lane
Thank you for responding to message for Ryan's from Kilkenny
Iam not sure where my great grandfather was from. Wm Ryan died in 1908 in Wayne County Pa. Married Bridget Lane in 1857. She died in 1912 in Scranton, Pa.

Hope some of this information will be of help to you. And I am interested in any information you have.

Wandesforde Estate Papers

Mike Brennan (View posts)
Posted: 16 Jan 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brennan
I'm also very interested in seeing the list of those assisted to emigrate from the Wandesforde estate in Kilkenny in the 1840s. Does it mention people by name - Nolan's book suggests that it does, given that payments were made to these people. Anyone got this list??

Mike Brennan
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