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Posted: 11 Dec 2001 4:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear All:

Please start a separate sub-thread for each Clan ancestor.

The thread on this board (and the mailing list) is intended for
comments, hints on how to locate, and discussions
on those distant ancestors ( sometimes brick walls) that are
very hard to locate. Anyone with knowledge of the
Clan Ancestors or searching for ancestors and especially
the Clan Genealogist are especially encouraged to post
their finding on the Clan ancestors.

Please do not use this board for merely looking for
recent descendants. That function is better in the
Surname message boards and mailing lists.

Use the standard procedure in the subject header of
inserting your family ancestor information in the following format
NAME > location > dates

Best Wishes and Happy Hunting to All

John A Hansen
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William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 13 Mar 2003 6:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Oct 2004 10:17AM GMT
Surnames: GRANT
Seeking further information about William GRANT and his origins:

I. William GRANT (934) was a half-pay lieutenant, First Royals, Aberdeen, Scotland. He was born at Carron, Parish of Abelour, Morayshire, Scotland. He was Lieutenant in the 1st Royal Carron Regiment, Carron Parish, Aberlour, Scotland. He resided at Gladhill. He fought under General Wolfe at the Battle of the Plains of Abraham in 1759 during the Seven Years War. As a soldier he earned the right to draw land and settle in Canada but he chose to return to Scotland. William gave his eldest son Lewis "Power of Attorney" to draw land to which he, William, was entitled and never claimed. Two of William's sons went to the USA about the same time that Lewis came to Canada. He married Catherine GRANT, daughter of Lewis GRANT, circa 1765 at Scotland. He was buried at Scotland. Children:

A. Lewis GRANT was born in 1771 at Carron, Parish of Abelour, Morayshire, Scotland. He was educated before 1791 at Aberdeen, Scotland, in medicine, but quit before completion. He immigrated in 1791 to Canada. Mrs. SIMCOE from Lewis GRANT's boat identifies Scarborough Bluffs. "Mr. GRANT who was provincial surveyor of Upper and Lower Canada, came to Canada in 1780 by way of St. Johns Newfoundland, and erected Grants Mills, about a century ago. These he operated for fifty years." He "built the first gristmill in the district, hauling the machinery 100 miles from Montreal by oxen, as there were then no railroads." "Early mills: ... Grant's mill, on the Nation river, in Edwardsburg, was built by Louis GRANT, a land surveyor" in 1805. He married Anna GUERNSEY, daughter of Daniel GUERNSEY and Rachel JONES, on 16 Mar 1805 at Edwardsburgh Twp, Grenville Co, ON. He was one of fourteen deputy surveyors in the province on 25 Apr 1805 at ON. He died on 3 Jun 1855 at Grants Mills, Grenville Co, ON. He was buried at South Gower Cemetery, South Gower Twp, Grenville Co, ON.

B. Laughlan GRANT was born in 1774.

C. Eliza GRANT was born in 1776.

D. Mary GRANT was born in 1779.

E. Anderly GRANT was born in 1782.

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 1 Jul 2003 9:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Oct 2004 10:17AM GMT
Surnames: Grant
Transcriptions of correspondence, 1791 - 1841, between William and his son Lewis, a surveyor in Upper Canada, can be seen at:

http://www.sensato.com/Grant

There are dozens of references to William's contemporaries, both local to Moray and foreign .... including a Gordian knot of Grants that I would like to cut through!

Hugh

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 23 Jul 2006 4:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GRANT
I believe I have found a link from William Grant's wife, Catherine Grant (maiden name) to the "Second Grants of Wester Elchies" (as described by William Fraser). The 1844 obituary for their son Lachlan states:

DIED -- At Rinnachat, Aberlour, on the 19th Instant, Lieutenant LACHLAN GRANT of the Royal Navy, late of Constitution Hill, Antigua. He was the fourth descendant of Patrick, progenitor of the family of Wester Elchies, second son of James Earl of Moray, by Lady Anne Gordon, daughter of the Marquis of Huntley -- Anno 1663 -- The Lieut. has left a widow, an only son, and two daughters.

More info at http://sensato.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1153228363

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 10 Oct 2010 2:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am trying to connect the Grant family I am researching, and hope that you can help me. I am not sure if this line is connect to the line I am researching but any help would be appreciated.

thanks cynthia

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 10 Oct 2010 2:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GRANT, LURG
I mentioned some other web addresses earlier in this thread. Those are now defunct, but my chart for William GRANT is still available here:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

Hope this helps.

Hugh C.

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 12 Oct 2010 2:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grant
The Chiefs of Grant by Fraser shows the Pedigree of the Grants of Carron ending with the death of Captain James Grant in 1790. As Hugh Campbell has related in earlier replies, his lineage continues in Antigua via Joseph Grant. I am interested in what happens to Effingham Grant (EH), another of his sons. I know he joins the Inverness-shire Highlanders or 97th Regiment of Foot prior to 1794 as a Surgeons-mate and he resigns on the 14th of November 1794. No record that I can find confirms his existence after that.

Records do confirm that an Effingham Howard Grant was born in Scotland in 1776 and died in Kendal (England) in 1841. EHG was my GGGGGrandfather. It appears that the only way I can confirm or refute that EH and EHG are the same person is through DNA testing. Is there anyone out there, male of direct lineage, to the Grants of Carron who has had their DNA tested? I assume that this would include the Canadian lineage of Carron and/or the Antigua lineage.

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 6 Apr 2012 10:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grant
Patrick Grant of the Grants of Wester Echlies was not the son of the 3d Earl of Moray. His mother was the only daughter of James Grant the 2d Earl, thus Patrick was the grandson of the 2d Earl,and not 2d son of the 3d Earl. She married James Grant, 7th Laird of Freuchie. See http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/earldoms/chapter6s5... for the details.
I also find no evidence that William, Lachlan's father was descended from Patrick.

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 9 Apr 2012 9:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks. How would interpret Lachlan's obit in that case?

Research materials I and others worked on a few years ago have now been posted at (new link):

http://williamgrantofcarron.wordpress.com/

Re: William GRANT > Carron > 1770

Posted: 9 Apr 2012 10:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Grant --
How I would interpret the obit? Simple! Realize that the family furnishes the info for the obit and they simply confused the two James Grants. After all, four generations had elapsed since the 3d Earl. That plus wishful thinking. It happens all the time. That's why you don't want to ever put much stock in obits without verifying the info from another source. Info in obits should never be treated as more than "possible."
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