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Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 31 Aug 2005 3:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2006 12:04AM GMT
Surnames: Trenchard, Curtis, Powell
These three TRENCHARDS were called cousins to Ann POWELL, formerly Ann CURTIS of Salem Co., NJ, in her 1716 will. How were they related?

A later John Trenchard, esq. of Salem Co. born in 1742 to George and Jane Wood Trenchard married in 1770 Theodocia OGDEN and they had a son named CURTIS TRENCHARD. This John Trenchard died in 1823 in Fairfield, Cumberland Co., NJ.

So the Curtis named survived through this family.

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 11 Nov 2007 2:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Curtis, Trenchard, Powell
Sir George Trenchard married Elizabeth Curtis. They had sons, George, Edward, and John. Could it be that Elizabeth had a sister named Ann that married a Powell?

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 18 Nov 2007 5:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Curtis, Powell, Trenchard, Warner, Robinson, Haslewood, Gill
I don't have a clue how they relate but at least your information provides another layer to this family. Samuel Curtis was married to an Ann. They had a daughter named Ann and Samuel may have had a sister named Ann. I'm searching for information on the Ann Curtis who married George Robinson with a possible marriage date of ca 1660.

Can you supply any dates for the marriage of Trenchard to Elizabeth Curtis or the birthdates of their children?

Various records mention Samuel Curtis of Alloways Creek, Salem Co., NJ such as:

[1692/93 Feb 14. On this date Samuel Curitce of Monmouth River aka Allaways Creek, Salem Co. deeded to John Haslewood, for love and affection unto his beloved daughter Ann Curtis who was about to marry John Haslewood. The land was for 1/2 of the land that Samuel currently lived on, the other 1/2 to go to them after the death of Samuel's wife Ann. see Calendar of Delaware Wills (misc. pg 178) and New Jersey Will Book A, pg 182 and 185, NJ Calendar of Wills.]

[1695 July 20. Do. Samuel CURTISE, yeoman, and Benjamin GILL, ship carpenter, both of MunMouth R. alias Allawayes Creek, Salem Co., with his wife Ann HASLEWOOD, now wife of said GILL, executors of John HASLEWOOD dec'd, to the heirs of Thomas WATSON, late of the Town of Greenwitch, dec'd, for 16 acres in said town, formerly surveyed for Thomas MOWYER, on the main street above the lot formerly laid out for George Prouoe, part of the 2,000 a. granted by John FENWICK to Vicessi- mus NETTLESHIP.]

[John Deacon of Philadelphia, late of Barbados wrote his will 09 Mar 1698, probated 20 May 1698 wherein he names his wife Ann as his sole executress. Mention is made of his wife's daughter Ann Curtis.]

I am left with references to Ann Curtis in these and other records but none are enough to secure her position within the families I'm researching.

The Ann who died in 1716, who I believe to have been the wife of Samuel Curtis, also mentioned my beloved Simon Warner. I've never found any information on this man.

There is the following with mention of a William Warner. Perhaps some relationship to Simon.

[NEW JERSEY COLONIAL RECORDS, West Jersey Records: Part 10 - Volume 21 Calendar of Records 1664-1703
1701 Dec. 16. Do. Hugh MIDDLETON of Beriton, Salem Co., mer-chant, to Wm. HALL of Salem Town, merchant, for 100 acres, of which 50 in the Precinct of Allawayes Creek, adjoining Edward CHAMPNEYS, were sold by Wm. WARNER of West Crookerne Wood, Salem Co., to Edward LUMLEY of Maneton, said Co., and wife Alice January 20, 1684-5; they conveyed the land to Richard BUTCHER of Salem Town August 5, 1685, and he assigned it to present grantor December 2, 1696; the other 50 a. adjoin- ing said BUTCHER on the East were sold by Samuel CURTISE of MunMouth R. to John SNOOKE of Salem in 1684 and assigned to grantor January 7, 1688-9. pg 98

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 18 Nov 2007 6:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Trenchard, Curtis, Warner
First, let me say that the small amount of information I have collected on this line is from these boards and ancestry.com.

The birthdates for the children of George Trenchard and Elizabeth Curtis that I have are:

John Trenchard abt 1686 (not sure if he is older or younger than George)
George Trenchard August 17 1686
Jane Trenchard between 1686-1692
Edward Trenchard about 1688

The mother, Elizabeth Curtis, looks to be a daughter of Samuel Curtis (born abt 1621) and Ann to me.

Simon Warner, born about 1641 may have been the son of William Warner and Joan Curtis, with Joan being a sister of Samuel.

Larry Curtis

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 21 Nov 2007 7:44PM GMT
Classification: Query

Thanks for those dates, Larry. A little here and a little there and eventually we may get to know more about these families.

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 9 Oct 2014 2:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Elizabeth Curtis who married Sir George Trenchard had a brother Samuel Curtis who married an Ann, last name unknown. After Samuel's death in about 1713, she remarried to a Powell. I don't have his first name. My ancestor is the oldest child of Samuel and Elizabeth Donne Curtis of Somerset, England. Ann was born in 1647 and married George Robinson. Both the parents died in Salem Co., New Jersey before 1680. I've never found the will Altogether there were 6 children born to Samuel and Elizabeth all in Somerset, England. Ann 1647, Elizabeth 1650, Samuel 1652, Joan 1655, Roger 1657, John 1659.

Many people have speculated that it was Ann Curtis Robinson who married John Haslewood, Benjamin Gill and Peter Blackfield after George died. This is incorrect. The Ann who married Haslewood, Gill and Blackfield was Ann Curtis the daughter of Samuel Curtis born 1652 and his wife Ann - the one who later married Powell.

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 13 Dec 2014 8:28PM GMT
Classification: Deed
Surnames: Curtis, Powell, Warner
From the index to Early Land records online at the NJ State Archives Searchable Database;
Curtis, Elizabeth (Estate of, et al) (Grantor) CONVEYANCE. [West Jersey]. Crewkerne Wood, Salem County. (ALL NAMES: William Warner (ux) (Grantee); Elizabeth Curtis (Estate of, et al) (Grantor); Samuel Curtis, Sr. (Estate of, et al) (Grantor)). (ALL LOCATIONS: West Jersey; Salem) 8 Jan 1680 Sal 2 : Folio 99
https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/NJPro...
(type in Eliz Curtis and select Salem co then hit search to bring it up)

See also a message on the Salem county list archives at rootsweb about Curtis and the ancestral property also called Crewkerne, in Somerset, England. I've been going back through these lately, so why I began paying attention to these threads.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NJSALEM/2008-0...

If I had to guess, the following records suggests Samuel Powell could be the 2nd husband of Ann Curtis, just following the land. Or he might be a son of her 2nd husband had Powell predeceased her. (Ann Powell's will probated just a few month prior to the following deed in Salem co). The land on Alloways creek is key, since it was historically Curtis property. The recital in the deed should explain how Samuel Powell had right to sell it.

D-119 Powell, Samuel of Philadelphia to Simon Warner of Alloways Creek, Salem co. Plantation and 200 acres of land known as Crookhorn Woods. Original deed. Nov. 6, 1716. Unrecorded. Old Deeds Belonging to Salem County Historical Society

Re: Trenchard, George, Edward and John

Posted: 15 Dec 2014 10:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Curtis, Donne, Powell, Deacon
Thanks for the additional information, Valerie, This gives me the given name of Samuel for Mr. Powell. I am still searching for the surname of Ann who married Samuel Curtis, son of Samuel Curtis and Elizabeth Donne. I have learned that her mother was also an Ann, surname unknown and she married 2nd to a John Deacon who died in 1698 in Chester Co., PA.
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