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Posted: 14 Oct 2007 2:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Joramo
I would like any information on the surname 'Joramo'. In addition, if anyone else is looking for anyone with the last name 'Joramo'I would like to hear from you as the name is very rare. I can trace my family to 1880 when they came to the US but have hit a road block beyond that.
Posted: 14 Oct 2007 2:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
There are two people with the surname Joramoe in the 1865 census of Norway. Do you have names and dates on your people? The more information you give, the easier it is for someone to help you.
Margit

Municipality Name Occupation Year of birth Place of birth Name of farm
Lyngen Joramoe, Johannes H. Fisker 1835 Gudbrandsdalen Lyngseidet a
Lyngen Joramoe, Lars Husmand med Jord Smed 1829 Gudbrandsdalen Kobbenæs a*

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger_e.aspx
Posted: 14 Oct 2007 5:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
In the 1865-telling, you will find 60 hits for the FARM names - Joramo and Joramoen - in Lesja (#0512), Oppland.
"http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentgl..."
Your people "MAY" have taken the farm name as their family name when migrating.
What are the names of your family members? Birth dates? Marriage dates? Children? etc. etc. Maybe we can help in your search if we have some details to work with.
Have a nice weekend!
Clark in Japan

Re: Joramo

Posted: 14 Oct 2007 6:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
My grandmother on my father's side came from the Joramo people in Oppland. I have quite a few registrations there.

Who are you looking for more specifically?

John Morten

Re: Joramo

Posted: 14 Oct 2007 8:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
The 1900 US census lists the oldest Norway born "Joramo" as Ole E Joramo, 77 yrs old, living Lake Hanska, Brown Co., MN.
That same man is found in the 1865 Norwegian census -
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Another Norway born Joramo in Brown Co. MN 1900 is Fred P Joramo, 54 yrs old.
He lives on another section of that Norwegian farm in 1865 -
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html

Re: Joramo

Posted: 14 Oct 2007 1:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Joramo
I do not find Ole E. Joramo in my records, but he may be listed under a different farm name. There are many Ole and many Engebreth to choose from.

But, the second Fredrik Pedersen Joramo is a direct hit. He is my first cousin three times removed! I was not aware that he had emigrated to the US. I would love to hear more details about descendants of him there.

Here are the ancestors I have registered for Fredrik at the moment. The run up to 7th great grandparents. The accuracy of the information is worse the further back we get here, but this is the best I can do right now.

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Fredrik Pedersen Joramo, born 1847, occupation 1865 Snekker, emigrated to Amerika, resided 1900 in Brown county, Minnesota, USA.

Parents

2. Peder Olsen Stor-Joramoen, born 1804 in Stor-Joramoen, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died 1882. He married Anne Fredriksdatter Brustuen.
Children:
i Anne Pedersdatter Joramo, born 1851 in Lesja, Oppland, Norge, , , died 1912. She married 1872, Jørgen Tostensen Hovaukholen, also known as Jørgen Skomaker.
1. ii Fredrik Pedersen Joramo, born 1847, occupation 1865 Snekker, emigrated to Amerika, resided 1900 in Brown county, Minnesota, USA.
iii Pernille Pedersdatter Joramo, born 1855.

3. Anne Fredriksdatter Brustuen, born 1812 in Brustuen, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died 1891.

Grand Parents

4. Ole Pedersen Stor-Joramoen, born 1770. He married Sigrid Olsdatter Augardshågån.
Children:
2. i Peder Olsen Stor-Joramoen, born 1804 in Stor-Joramoen, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died 1882. He married Anne Fredriksdatter Brustuen.

5. Sigrid Olsdatter Augardshågån, born 1778, died 1841.

6. Fredrik Paulsen S. Brustugu, born 1782, died 1866. He married Kari Larsdatter Ølstad.
Children:
3. i Anne Fredriksdatter Brustuen, born 1812 in Brustuen, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died 1891. She married Peder Olsen Stor-Joramoen.
ii Paul Fredriksen Frekstad, also known as Paul Joramo, born 1824, died 1906.
Bor sammen med kona som kårmann hos sønnen Kristen på Frekstad ved tellingen i 1900. Ved tellingen i 1875 er det angitt at Pål er bortreist som "Opsynsmand ved veiarbeider i Maalselven". Hjemme hos Johs. Malerbakken finnes det to sølvskjeer og et fløtesett i sølv som Paul fikk som erkjennelser for godt utført arbeid i Målselv. De er gitt fra bøndene i området (skjeene) og fra herredsstyret (fløtesettet). Johs. Malerbakken tok med seg dette da han reiste til Målselv i 2004 for å se om han kunne finne opplysninger om Paul. Det ble omtalt i lokalavisen.

He married Marit Kristensdatter Bakkelykkja.

7. Kari Larsdatter Ølstad, born 1785, died 1873.

Great Grand Parents

10. Ole Erlandsen Lishaugen, born 1728, died 1781 in Lishaugen, Dovre, Oppland, Norge. He married Sigrid Eriksdatter Vesle-Ruste.
Children:
5. i Sigrid Olsdatter Augardshågån, born 1778, died 1841. She married Ole Pedersen Stor-Joramoen.

11. Sigrid Eriksdatter Vesle-Ruste, born 1736 in Vesle-Ruste, Dovre, Oppland, Norge, died 1786.

12. Paul Olsen N. Selsjord, born 1739, died 1795.
I Digitalarkivets "Register til Oppland lagmanns dombøker 1748-1783" finner jeg Pål Selsjord i en sak fra 30.07.1778 der gården ved "Eksekusjon" overføres til "Madam Dampe". Dommen finnes i lagdomsprotokollen for 1765-1783 på side 273.

He married Anne Engebretsdatter Augard.
Children:
6. i Fredrik Paulsen S. Brustugu, born 1782, died 1866. He married Kari Larsdatter Ølstad.

13. Anne Engebretsdatter Augard, born 1747, died 1832.

14. Lars Syversen Ølstad, born 1740. He married Anne Kristensdatter.
Children:
7. i Kari Larsdatter Ølstad, born 1785, died 1873. She married Fredrik Paulsen S. Brustugu.

15. Anne Kristensdatter.
fra Vågå

Great Great Grand Parents

24. Ola Hansen Lindsø, born 1703, died 1764 in Lindsø, Dovre, Oppland, Norge.
fra Dovre Bror til Marit Hansdatter Lindsøe ?

He married Marit Olsdatter Svensgård.
Children:
12. i Paul Olsen N. Selsjord, born 1739, died 1795. He married Anne Engebretsdatter Augard.

25. Marit Olsdatter Svensgård, born 1706 in Svendsgård, Dovre, Oppland, Norge, died 1772 in Lindsø, Dovre, Oppland, Norge.
fra Dovre

26. Engebret Eriksen Sørungard, born 1723, died 1751. He married Margrete Iversdatter N. Tynnøl.
Children:
13. i Anne Engebretsdatter Augard, born 1747, died 1832. She married Paul Olsen N. Selsjord.

27. Margrete Iversdatter N. Tynnøl, born 1728, died 1809.

28. Syver Toresen Ølstad, born 1698, died 1763. He married Rønnaug Kristoffersdtr. Syst. Norderhus.
Children:
14. i Lars Syversen Ølstad, born 1740. He married Anne Kristensdatter.

29. Rønnaug Kristoffersdtr. Syst. Norderhus, born ca 1707, died 1794.

3rd Great Grand Parents

52. Erik Engebretsen Ommundgard, died 1723. He married Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard.
Children:
26. i Engebret Eriksen Sørungard, born 1723, died 1751. He married Margrete Iversdatter N. Tynnøl.

53. Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard, born ca 1700, died 1780 in Sønstebø uppistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge. She married (1) Erik Engebretsen Ommundgard, died 1723. She married (2) Tosten Pedersen Oppistugu Sønstebø, born 1680, died 1776 in Sønstebø uppistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge.
Children by Erik Engebretsen Ommundgard:
26. i Engebret Eriksen Sørungard, born 1723, died 1751. He married Margrete Iversdatter N. Tynnøl.
Children by Tosten Pedersen Oppistugu Sønstebø:
ii Peder Tostensen Sønstebø, born 1734 in Sønstebø uppistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died før 1801 in Sønstebø uppistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge. He married 1761, Ragnhild Larsdatter Ulekleiv.

54. Iver Johannesen Tynnøl, born 1710. He married Sigrid Engebretsdatter.
Children:
27. i Margrete Iversdatter N. Tynnøl, born 1728, died 1809. She married Engebret Eriksen Sørungard.

55. Sigrid Engebretsdatter.

58. Kristoffer Kristoffersen Syst. Norderhus, born ca 1663, died 1746. He married Jøda Knutsdatter Flittie.
Children:
29. i Rønnaug Kristoffersdtr. Syst. Norderhus, born ca 1707, died 1794. She married Syver Toresen Ølstad.

59. Jøda Knutsdatter Flittie, died 1712.

4th Great Grand Parents

106. Sølvfest Arnesen Nordistugu Hådi, born 1650 in Hådi nordistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died 1719. He married Anne Jørgensdatter Oppigård Bottem.
Children:
53. i Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard, born ca 1700, died 1780 in Sønstebø uppistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge. She married (1) Erik Engebretsen Ommundgard, died 1723. She married (2) Tosten Pedersen Oppistugu Sønstebø, born 1680, died 1776 in Sønstebø uppistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge.

107. Anne Jørgensdatter Oppigård Bottem, born 1660, died 1756.

116. Kristoffer Pedersen Systugu Norderhus, born ca 1634. He married Guro Jakobsdatter Sygard Rånå.
Children:
58. i Kristoffer Kristoffersen Syst. Norderhus, born ca 1663, died 1746. He married Jøda Knutsdatter Flittie.

117. Guro Jakobsdatter Sygard Rånå.

118. Knut Bjørnersen Flittie, born 1600, died 1663.
Både fødsels og dødsår er antagelser.

He married Rønnaug Jakobsdatter Stor-Avdem.
Children:
59. i Jøda Knutsdatter Flittie, died 1712. She married Kristoffer Kristoffersen Syst. Norderhus.

119. Rønnaug Jakobsdatter Stor-Avdem.

5th Great Grand Parents

212. Arne Olsen N. Hådi, born ca 1614, died 1711. He married Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard.
Children:
i Svein Arnesen Nordistugu Hådi, died 1719. He married Ragnhild Jacobsdatter Kårbø.
106. ii Sølvfest Arnesen Nordistugu Hådi, born 1650 in Hådi nordistugun, Lesja, Oppland, Norge, died 1719. He married Anne Jørgensdatter Oppigård Bottem.

213. Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard.

214. Jørgen Ellingsen, born 1626, died 1690. He married Brit Olsdatter Oppigard Bottem.
Children:
107. i Anne Jørgensdatter Oppigård Bottem, born 1660, died 1756. She married Sølvfest Arnesen Nordistugu Hådi.
ii Ola Jørgensen Oppigard Bottem, born 1663. He married Marit Arnesdatter N. Hådi.

215. Brit Olsdatter Oppigard Bottem, born ca 1635.

232. Peder Kristoffersen Nordigard Søre Hole, died ca 1658. He married Guri Jakobsdatter Systugu Norderhus.
Children:
116. i Kristoffer Pedersen Systugu Norderhus, born ca 1634. He married Guro Jakobsdatter Sygard Rånå.

233. Guri Jakobsdatter Systugu Norderhus, born ca 1608.

236. Bjørner Erikson, born 1600, died 1663.
Både fødsels og dødsår er antagelser.

He married Gyda Olsdatter Kleppe.
Children:
118. i Knut Bjørnersen Flittie, born 1600, died 1663. He married Rønnaug Jakobsdatter Stor-Avdem.
ii Kari Bjørnersdatter Flittie, born 1630, died 1671. She married Gunnar Pederson Ekre.

237. Gyda Olsdatter Kleppe.
fra Vågå

238. Jakob Trondsen Avdem, born ca 1600, died ca 1662. He married Marit Sveinsdatter Systugu Tordhol.
Children:
119. i Rønnaug Jakobsdatter Stor-Avdem. She married Knut Bjørnersen Flittie.

239. Marit Sveinsdatter Systugu Tordhol, died 1670.

6th Great Grand Parents

424. Ola Sveinsen N. Hådi. He married jente fra Hådi.
Children:
212. i Arne Olsen N. Hådi, born ca 1614, died 1711. He married Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard.

425. jente fra Hådi, born ca 1612.
datter av Ola som betalte skatt på Hådi i 1610

426. Sølvfest Sørungard, born 1610.
Children:
213. i Anne Sølvfestdatter Sørungard. She married Arne Olsen N. Hådi.

430. Ola Arnesen Oppigard Bottem. He married Mari Olsdatter.
Children:
215. i Brit Olsdatter Oppigard Bottem, born ca 1635. She married Jørgen Ellingsen.

431. Mari Olsdatter.

466. Jakob Arnesen.
Children:
233. i Guri Jakobsdatter Systugu Norderhus, born ca 1608. She married Peder Kristoffersen Nordigard Søre Hole.

472. Erik Knutsen Vorkinn.
Children:
236. i Bjørner Erikson, born 1600, died 1663. He married Gyda Olsdatter Kleppe.

476. Trond, born ca 1560, died 1647. He married Ingrid.
Children:
238. i Jakob Trondsen Avdem, born ca 1600, died ca 1662. He married Marit Sveinsdatter Systugu Tordhol.

477. Ingrid.

7th Great Grand Parents

850. Ola Hådi.
Children:
425. i jente fra Hådi, born ca 1612. She married Ola Sveinsen N. Hådi.

860. Arne.
Children:
430. i Ola Arnesen Oppigard Bottem. He married Mari Olsdatter.

Re: Joramo

Posted: 14 Oct 2007 1:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
OK, one lesson learned here, always check with the older generation!

Fredrik (locally called Frek, returned to Norway either in the late 1920ies or early 1930ies. He was broke and lived for the rest of his life on the farm of his sister. My father remembers him well, and has always been amused that Frek celebrated the 4th of July every year.

I am still a bit puzzled that his escapade to the US had not been told previously. Now, being close to hijacking this thread, I am even more interested in getting more details regarding whatever registrations can be found for him in the US.

John Morten
Posted: 14 Oct 2007 8:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi john,
i am working on the olstad family lines. syver toresen and lars syversen are my direct lines going back in time. i have a greatgrandfather who was born on the joramo farm he was hans larsen he came to minnesota @1880 with his family.we live in duluth mn. where are you living?
wiley

Re: Joramo

Posted: 14 Oct 2007 8:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
I live in Oslo, Norway.
Posted: 14 Oct 2007 9:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi john,
glad to hear from you. have you been doing genealogy for a while? i have been at this for about 30 years now and just got into my norwegian lines two years ago. i have one line that comes from rissa sor-tron and one from lesja oppland co. i was just wondering if you could help me out at finding some of the women that i can't find and their family lines?
wiley
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