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Jemima Ward and Colin McLean

Jemima Ward and Colin McLean

Posted: 5 May 2013 7:44AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 May 2013 7:47AM GMT
Surnames: Doak, Graham, McLean, Ward
Hello
Jemima Ward and Colin McLean are my Great Great Grandparents, their daughter Emma McLean (my Great Grandmother) married Charles William Graham. All records that I can find is that they had five children: Hugh, Charles Jr, Hattie, Mary and Ruby. My Grandmother is their daughter Mary Georgina Graham. Charles Jr died at a very young age. My Grandmother was born 23 Jun 1902 and died 21 Dec 1885 in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
My grandmother told her children (12 of them), that her parents put her and her three living siblings (Hugh, Hattie and Ruby) in an orphanage in Winnipeg just after my Great Aunt Ruby was born in 1903. Only my Aunt Ruby was adopted as a baby, the other three were never adopted. It was Hugh who kept in contact with his sisters and that is how my family has stayed connected. thank goodness for him. However no one seems to know what happened to Emily and Charles? We were told them immigrated to the USA and joined Vaudeville but I cannot find any record of this or any records of their death or where they lived after 1903. Would you happened to have any information that you could shared? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks . My Grandmother married John Lendrum Doak and they had 12 kids, my mom Shirley was the 10 th child, there were 8 boys and 4 girls.

Clarification - Re: Jemima Ward and Colin McLean

Posted: 21 May 2013 10:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Graham, McLean, Ward
Hello -

I'd love to help you unravel your family mystery, but I'm confused and need clarification.

Are you trying to find out what happened to Charles William Graham and his wife Emma McLean Graham? Was Emma also called Emily?

Thank you for your future clarification.

Re: Jemima Ward and Colin McLean

Posted: 22 May 2013 10:56AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: MCLEAN, GRAHAM
1881
Name: Colin H. McLean
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 36
Birth Year: 1845
Birthplace: Quebec
Religion: Presbyterian
Nationality: Scotch (Scotish)
Occupation: Farmer
Province: Manitoba
District Number: 185
District: Lisgar
Sub-District Number: D
Subdistrict: Rockwood
Division: 2
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Name: Jemima McLean
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 30
Birth Year: 1851
Birthplace: Ontario
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Name: James A. McLean
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Birth Year: 1875
Birthplace: Manitoba
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Name: Colin H. McLean
Gender: Male
Age: 5
Birth Year: 1876
Birthplace: Manitoba
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Name: Emma M. McLean
Gender: Female
Age: 3
Birth Year: 1878
Birthplace: Manitoba
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Name: John Franklin McLean
Gender: Male
Age: 3m
Birth Year: 1881
Birthplace: Manitoba


1891
Colin Mclean 44 WIDOWED
James Mclean 16
Colin Mclean 14
Emma Mclean 12
Frank Mclean 10
Ollie Mclean 7
Province: Manitoba
District Number: 6
District: Lisgar
Subdistrict: Rockwood


1901
Name: Colin H Mclean
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 54
Birth Day & Month: 25 Sep
Birth Year: 1846
Birthplace: Qc
Relation to Head of House: Head
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: Conductor
Province: Manitoba
District: Selkirk
District Number: 11
Sub-District: Rockwood
Sub-District Number: H-3
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Name: Colin H Mclean
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 24
Birth Day & Month: 12 Feb
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Mb
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Colin H Mclean
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: Tinsmith
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Name: Emily Mclean
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Day & Month: 30 Dec
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Mb
Relation to Head of House: Daughter



Name: John Franklin McLean
Age: 27
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1881
Birth Location: Canada
Spouse: Edith E McLean
Children: Margaret E
Arrival Year: 1901
Issue Date: 5 Sep 1908
State: California
Locality, Court: Los Angeles, California, Superior Court
Record Type: Petition for Naturalization


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1901
Name: Charles Graham
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 50
Birth Day & Month: 25 Sep
Birth Year: 1850
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Racial or Tribal Origin: Irish
Religion: English
Occupation: Farm Laborer
Province: Manitoba
District: Brandon
District Number: 6
Sub-District: Whitewater
Sub-District Number: O-1
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Name: Emma Mc Graham
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Birth Day & Month: 20 Apr
Birth Year: 1876
Birthplace: Mb
Relation to Head of House: Wife
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Name: Hughie Graham
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 4
Birth Day & Month: 18 Apr
Birth Year: 1896
Birthplace: Mb
Relation to Head of House: Son
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Name: Charles Wm Graham
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 3
Birth Day & Month: 3 May
Birth Year: 1897
Birthplace: Mb
Relation to Head of House: Son
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Name: Hattie Florence Graham
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Birth Day & Month: 5 Aug
Birth Year: 1900
Birthplace: Mb
Relation to Head of House: Daugh (Daughter)
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Name: Carruthers Graham
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 52
Birth Day & Month: 4 Aug
Birth Year: 1848
Birthplace: Qc
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Racial or Tribal Origin: Irish



1906
Name: Chas W Graham
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 9
Birthplace: Manitoba
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Province: Manitoba
Sub-District Description: Town of Portage la Prairie
Sub-District: 19B


1916
Name: Hugh Graham
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 19
Est. Birth Year: 1897
Birthplace: Manitoba
Home in 1916: 12, Marquette, Manitoba
Address: Main Street, Minnedosa

Charles William Graham and Emma McLean

Posted: 22 May 2013 5:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Graham, McLean
I did find a Manitoba provincial database with marriage records older than 80 years.

In that database I found the record of the marriage of a Charlies William Graham and Emma McLean, 26 Feb 1896, married at South Norfolk, Manitoba.


This is the link to the home page for the Manitoba Vital Statistics Agency Genealogy Searches for Unrestricted Records:
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
Read the information there.

In the search boxes farther down that page, select "Marriages" and enter the last name "Graham" and "Charles William" in the proper boxes and click on the Search button.

Through the link giving the marriage record basics, you can order (pay for) the more complete marriage license/registration information. With luck the information will include the names of the parents of both Charles and Emma and the birth dates of the bridal couple.

It looks like each record ordered will cost $12.00 Canadian. This is the link to the order form, FYI:
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/GenealogyRequest.php

It looks like the request, with payment info (credit cards accepted) must be sent by traditional mail.

With luck the info on the marriage record for Charles William Graham and Emma McLean will lead you to more sources of info.

Best wishes

Re: Clarification - Re: Jemima Ward and Colin McLean

Posted: 22 May 2013 10:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes I am trying to find out what happened to Charles William Graham and his wife Emily (Emma) McLean Graham.

Re: Clarification - Charles William Graham and Emma (Emily) McLean

Posted: 23 May 2013 12:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Graham, McLean
Thank you for the clarification.

Without knowing at least the birth years for both Charles William Graham and Emma McLean, it may be hard to determine any census record for them, either in Canada or the USA. So, obtaining a copy of their Manitoba marriage record may lead to their birth dates. See my reply with the link to the Manitoba Vital Records database.

Also, if they did "go on the state" in vaudeville, their stage names may not have been the same as their actual names. Plus, they could also have taken on other names and used them in records that may exist, including census records.

I checked the Canadian census records for 1911 for them and did not find anything for anyone I think may have been them. The 1911 Canada census is the most recent that is available for searching. Canadian law does not allow the release of census records until after 100 years have passed.

I'll check US census records, too, but without at least a birth year for each of them, determining if a census record is for them or not will be a challenge. US census records are available up through 1940.

I'll come back and post what I find (or don't find) regarding US census records for them.

Correction - Canada Census

Posted: 23 May 2013 12:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Correction: The records for the 1916 census of the western Canadian provinces are also available to search.

Re: Clarification - Charles William Graham and Emma (Emily) McLean

Posted: 23 May 2013 9:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Charles William Graham was born on 25 Sep 1850 and Emily (Emma) Mabel McLean Graham was born on 30 Dec 1877. I have checked the US census but there are so many names, I also checked historical sites about Vaudeville but I cannot find them either. I had not given up, eventually I will get the info I need to complete the mystery. Many members of my family are curious to know also, any assistance that you can provide would be much appreciated.

Re: Clarification - Charles William Graham and Emma (Emily) McLean

Posted: 23 May 2013 9:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
On the Manitoba Vitals Stats , it shows that they were married on 26 Feb 1896 in South Norfolk, MB.

Birth Dates - Charles William Graham and Emma (Emily) Mabel McLean

Posted: 23 May 2013 10:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Graham, McLean
Thank you for the birth dates. I will see if I can find anything on them. Unfortunately Graham and "Charles William" are common enough names. Too bad he wasn't named "Zaphod Beeblebrox." :-)

By the way, did you also post a message about them in the message boards (General and others) for Manitoba? I checked and saw some messages about your McLean family line on the Manitoba > General; Manitoba > Winnipeg; and Manitoba > Interlake message boards.

I also scanned/looked through Manitoba message boards for the surname Graham. None of the messages seem to be about your Charles William Graham.

I'll let you know if I find anything that seems to be for your Charles William Graham and wife Emma (Emily) Mabel McLean Graham.

Best wishes
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