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looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 3 Aug 2010 3:36AM GMT
Classification: Death
Surnames: Giles
Is there any hope? I have found a death record in the BYU special collection but not burial information. I have heard that getting information from the state about inmates in the asylum is near impossible. Has anyone had any luck? This is my GG Aunt, Lassie G Giles died 1956. The family story is that she was severely asthmatic and died of an overdose. Would love to know if the story is true.

Re: looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 12 Sep 2010 4:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
Yes, Idaho is restrictive on their release of records but 50 years after a death and if you meet the criteria, you should be able to order a copy of her death certificate.

Go to the Clearwater County Auditor, Recorder and Clerk of the District Court web site, clearwatercounty.org/?Auditor1 for contact info.

The Idaho Genealogical Society, 208-384-0542 might also have this info.

Contact the Clearwater Public Library, manta.com/c/mmcr87b/clearwater-public-library about requesting a copy of her obituary and any death article. Successful Searching!

Re: looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 14 Sep 2010 9:17AM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 13 Feb 2011 2:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
First, the family story of your GG/Aunt being asthmatic and died of an overdose, by itself, may or may not be true depending on family lore. But, if she was an inpatient at the North Idaho Asylum, that gives a much less value to this family lore. As an inpatient, her medication would have been limited to that given by doctors/ nurses/ medical staff.

Most States are highly protective of the rights of those voluntarily and involuntarily admitted into mental hospitals. Some of these States protect this information even after death. The verbiage of the statutes in Idaho indicate these laws extend to after death. Only until recently were records made available to identify those patients who were buried in State Hospital Cemeteries in Washington State.

This is the primary Idaho statute concerning mental health patent records:
Idaho Statutes:
Title 66: State Charitable Institutions;
Chapter 3: Hospitalization of Mentally Ill http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title66/T66CH3.htm
66-348: Disclosure of Information http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title66/T66CH3SECT66-348...
Basically says: If the person or his attorney consent; or if necessary to carry out ...(laws)... or if the court directs disclosure is necessary...

Title 9: Evidence
Chapter 3: Public Writings
9-340C. Records Exempt from Disclosure... Paragraph 6
http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title9/T9CH3SECT9-340C.h...

Her death certificate if issued by the State Asylum, or if identifies mental state, it is NOT releasable. UNLESS, you obtain a court order for release. Mere curiosity has been shown to not be a valid reason for release of confidential information. If you could prove a need to have the medical information to protect yourself or family, the court "might" take interest. If they did, they would review your petition, then review any and all documents subject to release to verify a legitimate need for release. But, in this case, I don't believe any medical history would be released. The court "might" release information as to the place of burial.

IF she was NOT a patient, you can order a NON-Certified copy of her death certificate for $14.00. There are other restrictions for a CERTIFIED copy:
http://healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/Health/VitalRecordsandHeal...
You could apply for her death certificate, if it is falls under the Idaho Statute for protection, ALL you can be told is there is no record. Legally, they can not tell you she was a patent, or the DC is protected.

If her death was due to overdose, or she had been an inpatient, the family probably would not have identified this in an obituary. You could try to obtain one, there is a volunteer here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~obitl/voli...

I base my comments above on my experience with Washington State and California attempts (CA for a friend) to obtain records. At one point, I was sent an impressive stack of papers to apply for court order for disclosure for Washington State. These mental health records are much like adoption records. They not only protect the person from disclosure; but also the family. I doubt you would like someone to obtain mental health records of your aunt to embarrass you.

Ron Bestrom
Tacoma, WA

Re: looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 13 Feb 2011 2:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
No. Her records are sealed, including her death certificate and burial records if she was a patient at the Idaho Asylum. Read my post directed to the original person inquiring.

Re: looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 16 Apr 2011 6:28AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you all for your help. It is mere curiosity on my part. She is a missing link in some family lore and I would love to pay my respects at her burial place.

Re: looking for infomation on burials of inmates North Idaho Asylum 1956

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 5:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Giles
I know that this is an older posting but did you try: www.findagrave.com? There are pictures of her headstone and tells the cemetery which she is buried in.
I am not related
Linda
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