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Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 17 Mar 2007 2:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Looking for further info on Henry Winkleblack...he is my
ggggStepGF...He married the widow of my ggggGF, James
McMahan/McMahon. Her name was Susannah Lake...they were
married in Monroe Co. WV in 1803. I'm assuming she was not his first wife. Henry was a Revolutionary War Soldier,
serving at Fort Pitt, Fort McIntosh, Fort Lawrence, & Fort
Wheeling. Was also quite the Indian fighter (killed 10 Indians in one battle) The info we have says he moved to
Kansas in a covered wagon and was a blacksmith. I believe
he had children with Sussanah Lake after leaving WV. There
is some indication that possibly they were in IN for a time.
Please pass along any Info... bobwickline@yahoo.com

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 2 Apr 2007 10:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi - I wonder if you are referring to John Henry Winkleblack I? What I have on him is that he was born in 15 Sept 1756, in Lancaster, PA. He married Elizabeth (no last name found)b:abt 1760. They had one child, John Henry II, b: 1780 in Union, VA; m: 22 Nov 1803 in Union, VA. John Henry II married Sussannah McMan Lake, b: abt 1785 in Scotland, d: in Union, VA. One of the children was John Henry III, b: 1 April 1809 in Greenbrier, VA, m: 17 Jan 1839, d: 5 Sept 1881. He married Jane Gibson, b: 5 Nov 1819 in Greenbrier, VA, d: 30 Oct 1877 in Plymouth , IN. Their daughter was Lydia Almira Winkleblack, b: 10 Mar 1846 in Ohio, d: 29 Dec 1912, in Kansas. She married John Marion Snodgrass in Plymouth, Marshall, IN 25 Feb 1866. She was my great grandmother, but she died in Ft. Dodge, KS 4 March 1954, a few months before I was born. The group of my family that eventually settled in Kansas, was in Indiana for a period of time, in Marshall County. They moved first to Blue Rapids, KS and then onto Selden, KS.

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 3 Apr 2007 3:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Susannah Lake McMann was my ggggGM... Her first husband was
James McMann/McMahon. My real interest is to find further
info about James' origins. James & Susannah had 2 sons
before James' death and Susannah's eventual marriage to
John Henry Winkleback. Their sons were William & John...
John was my gggGF. If you know of anyone who might have old Bible records with more info on Susannah & her first husband
James McMann/McMahon, I'd much appreciate it...

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 3 Apr 2007 4:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi - I wish I could help, but I don't have anything like that. My information comes from, "Genealogy of the Winkelblech, Winkleblack,Winklepleck family in American", by Aaron M. Winklepleck. I found it in the Univ. of Madison history society library, call number CS 71 W7724 1968. On page 517, I found the following, "There is a definite record that Henry Winkleblack II, and John McMahan together purchased 90 acres of land on Second Creek, Monroe County, West Virginia, in 1834, a part of the tract of land on which Henry Winkleblack I, then lived. No record of the dates of the births, place of residence, dates of deaths, places of interest, for Henry II, and his wife Susanna have been found." His references are from records in the court house at Union, Monroe County, West Virginia. The information I have after that, for the Winkleblacks, comes from a family history that was done by a cousin who lives in Washington D.C. area and found information at the National Archives.

Your information actually is helpful to me, as it clears up something that had been listed with a question mark in my cousin's family history, about Susanna. I only found the family history on the Winkleblacks in Madison about a week ago and had not had time to read all of the copies I made. I wonder if "my" Henry II was a neighbor and he married Susanna after "your" John died since they were already acquainted with each other?

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 3 Apr 2007 8:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Henry W. II was either a step-bro. or half-bro. of John McMahan... Susannah was "John's" mother by her first husband
James McMahan. Susannah & James had 2 sons~ William & "John"
Henry W.I married Susannah shortly after James' death. William & John McMahan were "boys" or young teens when their
Mother married Henry W.I, so his previous childfren & later children with Susannah likelt grew up as siblings in same
home.

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 23 May 2008 6:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Winkleblack, Winkelblack, Black, Eads, Lake, Lewis, Myers, Young, Yeager
John Henry Winkleblack(1756-1835) had SIX children, including my ggggrandfather, See my family tree on rootsweb.com.
Elizabeth Winkleblack married Colton Eads
Henry Winkleblack married Susannah Lake
Margaretha Peggy Winkleblack married George Lewis
John Winkleblack aka John W Black (my line) married Sarah Myers
Samuel Winkleblack married Jane Young
Mary Polly Winkleblack married George Yeager

By the way, NO ONE has applied for DAR membership based on descent from John Henry Winkleblack. I thought about it, but it is a lot of work establishing all the ties. Anyone want to collaborate here?

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 24 May 2008 1:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi - I just found out 2 weeks ago that my application for membership in the DAR was successful for my HARROLD ancestor on my father's side. As you mentioned, it was a lot of work but was able to complete it by working on it for the past year, as I had time. I want to do an ancestor on my mother's side and the WINKLEBLACK ancestor might be the one to use since there is such a nice family history published (see my previous posts). I have a lot going on the next month but might be interested in working with you after that. Let me know what work for you. - Kay

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 26 May 2008 7:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Don't believe a published history. Some of them are full of junk. I have heard of Aaron Winkelplecks's book. He never tracked my line from Henry. Each generation needs to be established by careful evidence. In my case, it was going to be every difficult because John Winkleblack that married Sarah Myers in 1812 in Monroe Co, WV changed his name between 1830and 1840 to BLACK! I can prove my circumstantial evidence that he is the John W Black of Buchanan Co, MO in 1840 by the marriage of his daughters there and in a nearby county and the Oregon Donation Land Claims. I already ordered the Revolutionary War records for the old guy from NARA. He used a pseudonym during the war. Why? I haven't got a clue unless it was to keep it from his family. The WInkelblacks were originally part of the Amish community in Lebanon Co, PA and left about 1760 for West Virginia. Amish are strict pacifists.
I work at home so I would love to establish this line for the DAR. My cousin applied on my father's side and that wasn't too hard as two lines married together right after the Revolutionary War. When I was working with my DAR consultant, she checked for me and confirmed that there were no applications based on Henry Winkleblack's line. He must have hundreds if not thousands of descendants by now.

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 22 Jul 2008 8:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi to "Winckelblech" - I had mentioned that I would have more time to work on this by July. Things have slowed down and I had time for genealogy today. I received my new member packet from the DAR and can now search the members database. I found the record for John Henry WINKELBLECK listed with service in Virginia, rank of private, birth 15 Sept in Lancaster PA, death est. as 12 Oct 1835 in Union, Monroe Co, VA, and spouse as Elizabeth. If you would like to proceed, you can contact me at khswl@hotmail.com. - Kay

Re: Henry Winkleblack (b.1756)

Posted: 2 Apr 2009 5:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Winkleblack
I can trace my line from Henry through Samuel and Jane Young Winkleblack. I have recently considered the DAR application process but can't seem to get anyone with the local chapter to contact me. I have a copy of Henry's final pension payment and some other items from the National Archives that my Aunt requested back in the '70's. I would like to hear from anyone still working on this.
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