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KIRKPATRICK, GROUNDWATER, LOUTIT, SHEARER

Tracey Janney (View posts)
Posted: 24 Jul 1998 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have two brothers Ebenezer KIRKPATRICK b. c1783 and Thomas KIRKPATRICK b. 1787 in Closeburn, Dumfries, who left there and moved to Orkney.

Ebenezer married Elspet GROUNDWATER and they had one son James Gould KIRKPATRICK b. 1828, Ebenezer then married Isobel LOUTIT in 1829 in the parish of Orphir, Orkney and they had one son Ebenezer KIRKPATRICK b. 1830.

Thomas married Margaret SHEARER in 1817 in Canisbay, Caithness and they had five children Donald b. 1818, Margaret b. c1820, Ebenezar b. 1821, Anna b. 1823 and Thomas b. 1825, the first two children were born in Canisbay and the remainder in Orphir, Orkney.

I would appreciate any info anyone might have on this line, will gladly swap any research.

James Groundwater/Grisil Wilson

William D. Groundwater (View posts)
Posted: 29 Sep 1998 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Groundwater
Hi Jean,

You've made a lot of progress since our last e mail exchange. I've got copies of some of the Parish records for Okney--Marriages/Births/Christenings.

I'm not absolutely certain I am interpreting these correctly, but on page 1,118 (Batch film# C110232) Special sheet
0344, there is a marriage listing for:

James Groundwater/Grisl Wilson 12 June 1720 in Orphir, Orkney. Parents: James Groundwater/Katherine Inksater.

On page 1,123

there is a listing for a Magnus Groundwater 20 October 1726. It actually appears to be a marriage listing, but that doesn't make any chronological sense. There is a "Jean Hay" listing within this entry.

Parents are listed as James Groundwater/Grisl Wilson.

References are Batch film# C11032 and A 458003, special sheets # 2044 and 0596

I'll try to scan these two sheets and send them to you

Searching for matches, additions

Jean Vesely (View posts)
Posted: 29 Sep 1998 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GROUNDWATER, CROMARTY

First Generation
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1. James (c1683)? Groundwater. Born 1683.

He married Grissil Wilson.
They had the following children:

2 i. Magnus (1713)? Groundwater

Second Generation
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2. Magnus (1713)? Groundwater. Born 1713.

He married Isabella? ?. Aka Isobel.
They had the following children:

3 i. James (1751)? Groundwater

Third Generation
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3. James (1751)? Groundwater. Born 1751.

He married Isobel ?.
They had the following children:

4 i. William (1783) Groundwater

Fourth Generation
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4. William (1783) Groundwater. Born Circa 1783. Died Circa 1833.

William GROUNDWATER (M)............... C: 30 Jun 1783 Ba: C110232

Father: James GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506

Mother: Isobel GROUNDWATER Pr: 6901949

He married Catherine Robertson, 8 Feb 1810 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland. Born 1786. Died 1873.
They had the following children:

i. Alexander Groundwater;

ii. Margaret Groundwater;

She married Thomas Halcro. Born ? in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland12. Died in Great Falls, Montana. Occupation Wheat Farmer.

5 iii. Andrew (1824) Groundwater

Fifth Generation
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5. Andrew (1824) Groundwater. Born 11 Jul 1824 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland13. Died Circa 1917.

Research:

Andrew GROUNDWATER (M)................ C: 11 Jul 1824 Ba: C110234

Father: William GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506

Mother: Catherine ROBERTSON Pr: 6901949

He married Isabella Ross Thomison, Circa 14 Feb 184512 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland. Born Circa 1826 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland13. Died Circa 1899.
They had the following children:

i. William Tomison Groundwater; Born Circa 6 Dec 1846 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland.

Research: William Tomison GROUNDWATER (M)....... C: 6 Dec 1846 Ba: C110234

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506

Mother: Isabella TOMISON



6 ii. Andrew (1855) Groundwater

iii. Isabella Groundwater; Born 7 Aug 1857 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland.

Research: Isabella GROUNDWATER (F).............. B: 7 Aug 1857 Ba: C110231

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Isabella THOMISON



iv. Margaret Georgina Groundwater; Born 30 Jul 1859 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland13.

Research: Margaret Georgina GROUNDWATER (F)..... B: 27 Sep 1863 Ba: C110231

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Isabella THOMISON



7 v. Mary Groundwater

8 vi. Hellen Anderina Groundwater

vii. Caroline Groundwater; Born 25 Mar 1869 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland.

Research: Caroline GROUNDWATER (F).............. B: 25 Mar 1869 Ba: C110233

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Isabella THOMISON



Sixth Generation
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6. Andrew (1855) Groundwater. Born 6 Dec 1855 in Banks, Orphir, Orkney, Scotland12 ,13. Died Circa 1929 in Chicago, IL. Occupation Atlantic fisherman, also Hudson's Bay Co., Canada/Scot.11. Aka lived at: 1881 Norns Cottage, Orphir14 ; 1913+ 15 ,4 ®.

Research: Andrew GROUNDWATER (M)................ B: 6 Dec 1855 Ba: C110231

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Isabella THOMISON

Norns Cottage was situated somewhere between Orphir House and Swanbister in the area around Toyness. Not on 1903 map of Orphir. Probably a very modest abode.12

He first married Jemima Stewart Cromarty, daughter of Samuel Wards Cromarty & Catherine Sabiston, 1880 in Stromness, Orkney, Scotland. Born 29 Apr 1856 in Stromness, Orkney, Scotland13, F#: 442376. Aka Ba: C110301 ; So: 6035516 REGISTER.

Research: Jemima STEWART CROMARTY (F)........... B: 29 Apr 1856 F#: 442376 @

Father: Samuel Wards CROMARTY Stromness, Orkney, Scotland

Mother: Catherine SABISTON

Jemima Stewart CROMARTY (F)........... B: 29 Apr 1856 Ba: C110301

Father: Samuel CROMARTY Stromness, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Catherine SABISTON

They had the following children:

i. Andrew Groundwater; Born 188013 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland. Died Circa 1900 in New York.

ii. William Cromarty Groundwater; Born Circa Apr 188313 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland. Died 27 Mar 1903 in Laurel, Montana10. Occupation Cowboy. Aka Billy.

iii. Peter Cromarty Groundwater; Born 188413 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland. Died Circa 1929 in Wisconsin & Minnesota border. Occupation Iron Worker - built bridges. Aka Ouclare, fell off bridge into Miss. River11.

9 iv. James Cromarty (1886) Groundwater

He second married Mary ?, in May not have been married. Born in Scotland?. Died Circa 1933 in Chicago, IL?. Occupation Andrew's Housekeeper in Scotland. Christen Daughter, Margaret, by previous marriage b 1886?5, 3. Aka "Grandma" to Dorothy, William and James Groundwater.

7. Mary Groundwater. Born 30 Jul 1859 in Linnadale, Orphir, Orkney, Scotland13 12.

Research: Mary GROUNDWATER (F).................. B: 30 Jul 1859 Ba: C110231

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Isabella THOMISON

She married William Muir Shearer, 187812. Born 25 Dec 1856.
They had the following children:

10 i. Margaret Shearer

8. Hellen Anderina Groundwater. Born 23 Jul 1867 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland.

Research: Hellen Anderina GROUNDWATER (F)....... B: 23 Jul 1867 Ba: C110231

Father: Andrew GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 6035516 REGISTER

Mother: Isabella THOMISON

She married ? Ballantine?.
They had the following children:

11 i. Violet? Ballantine?

ii. Archer? Ballantine?;

He married Swedish? Woman?. Aka swedish woman.

Seventh Generation
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9. James Cromarty (1886) Groundwater. Born 24 Jan 18862 in Orphir, Orkney, Scotland13. Died Feb 19752 in Chesterton, Indiana, 463042. Buried in Chesterton, Indiana. Occupation Motorman. Christen Methodist. Aka 340-03-99632.

He married Hattie Louise Fritsch, daughter of John Fritsch & Ottilie Boerner, 16 Jun 190911 in Chicago, Illinois. Born 30 Jul 18902 in Chicago, Illinois2. Died Mar 1979 in Chesterton, Indiana, 463042. Buried in Chesterton, Indiana. Christen Methodist. Aka 306-70-56622.
They had the following children:

i. Dorothy Louise Groundwater; Born 27 Mar 1910 in Chicago, Illinois. Died 9 Nov 1996 in Indiana, 46383. Occupation Secretary. Christen Methodist. Aka 568-07-64182.

12 ii. William Stewart "Bill" (1911) Groundwater

iii. James Randolph Groundwater; Born 1 Feb 1917 in Chicago, Illinois5. Occupation Postal Worker.

He first married Jean Cleveland, daughter of ? Cleveland & Violet? Ballantine?, Circa 1950.

He second married Betty Kielty, Circa 1980. Born 19 Jul 1919 in N. Ireland. Died Circa 1991 in Sun City, AZ. Occupation Postal Worker. Aka grew up in Pittsburgh area, Betty Sickle.

10. Margaret Shearer. Born 21 Jan 1882 in Aikislay, Orphir, Scotland12.

She married William Russell, 1904 in Leith. Born 1882 in Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland12.
They had the following children:

13 i. Stanley Groundwater Russell

11. Violet? Ballantine?.

She married ? Cleveland.
They had the following children:

i. Jean Cleveland;

She married James Randolph Groundwater, son of James Cromarty (1886) Groundwater & Hattie Louise Fritsch, Circa 1950. Born 1 Feb 1917 in Chicago, Illinois5. Occupation Postal Worker.

Eighth Generation
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12. William Stewart "Bill" (1911) Groundwater. Born 20 Oct 1911 in Chicago, Illinois. Occupation Machinist. Christen Methodist.

He married Blanche Bell McGillivray, daughter of James McGilvray 1 & Jennie Davis, 30 Aug 1935 in in James McGillivray home, Chicago, IL3. Born 23 Mar 1910 in Chicago, Illinois. Died May 1980 in Santa Cruz, CA, 95060. Buried Circa 1970 in Four Seasons, Santa Cruz, CA. Occupation Nursery School Teacher. Christen Methodist. Aka born Blanche Bell McGilvray 6 360-01-00862.
They had the following children:

14 i. Jean Paula Groundwater

15 ii. Harriette Louise Groundwater

13. Stanley Groundwater Russell. Born 14 Mar 1909.

He married Dorothy May Dummett, 193112. Born 4 Apr 1908 in Erith, Kent, England12.
They had the following children:

i. ______1st daughter? Russell;

ii. ______1st son? Russell;

iii. ______2nd Daughter? Russell;

16 iv. Peter Groundwater Russell

v. _______daughter? Russell;

vi. ________son? Russell;

vii. youngest daughter, Stephanie Russell;

She married Thomas Groundwater. Aka family left Orkney before 185112.

Ninth Generation
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14. Jean Paula Groundwater. Born 2 May 1940 in Chicago Osteopathic Hospital, Chicago, IL7. Graduation 15 Aug 1962 in BE, Chicago State University. Occupation Teacher. Christen Methodist. Aka Jeanne.

She married James Frank Vesely, son of Frank Anton Vesely & Lillian Marie Soucek, 20 Oct 1963 in Washington Heights Methodist Church, Chicago, Illinois. Born 20 Oct 1940 in Women & Children's Hospital, Chicago, IL9. Occupation Editor. Christen Presbyterian.
They had the following children:

i. Deborah Jean Vesely; Born 22 May 1968 in Henry O. Kase,MD, Kane County, Elgin, Illinois8. Graduation 15 Jun 1984 in BA, Kalamazoo Col., Kalamazoo MI; Teach. Cert., CO State. Occupation OEM Sales. Aka Debbie.

ii. Rebecca Louise Vesely; Born 22 Oct 1970 in Henry O. Kase, MD, Sherman Hosp., Kane, Elgin, IL8. Graduation Jun 1986 in BA, Mills College, Oakland, CA.; MJ, Northwestern University. Occupation Writer and Editor. Aka Becky.

15. Harriette Louise Groundwater. Born 15 Apr 1942 in Chicago, Illinois. Graduation Jun 1963 in RN, Passavant Hospital, Northwestern Univ. Died 11 Feb 1998 in Sunnyvale, CA. Occupation Nurse. Christen Methodist, born again Christian.

She married Norvell John Nelson PHD, Aug 1964 in Chicago, Illinois. Born 23 Mar 1942 in Chicago, Illinois. Graduation in Stanford, CA. Occupation Chemist. Christen Atheist. Aka Norv.
They had the following children:

i. Marjorie Ann Nelson; Born 22 Aug 1967 in Stanford, CA. Graduation Jun 1980 in BA, Mills College. Christen Atheist.

ii. Matthew John Nelson; Born 22 Sep 1972 in Rochester, NY. Graduation in USC, not graduated. Occupation Camerman.

16. Peter Groundwater Russell. Born 10 Aug 1938 in Erith12.

He first married Enid Foottit, 1959 in Lincoln. Born 1937.
They had the following children:

17 i. Andrew Russell

18 ii. Julie Russell

He second married Sopharan Pen, 1984 in ?. Born ? in Cambodia.

10th Generation
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17. Andrew Russell. Born 8 Jan 1966.

He married Michaela Bishay, ? in married. Born 1966.
They had the following children:

i. Alexander Groundwater Russell; Born 9 Sep 1994 in Hong Kong (RAF Hospital)12.

ii. Emily Russell; Born 8 Jan 1992.

18. Julie Russell. Born 7 Aug 1963.

She married Brian Kennedy.
They had the following children:

i. Jonathan Kennedy; Born 17 Feb 1992 in born on St. Patrick's Day.

Reference Note 2
Social Security Death Index

Reference Note 3
William Groundwater

Reference Note 4
Chicago Directory

Reference Note 5
James Groundwater

Reference Note 6
McGilvray Family Bible

Reference Note 7
City of Chicago Board of Health Notification of Birth Registration

Reference Note 8
State of Illinois Certificate of Live Birth

Reference Note 9
State of Illinois Dept. of Public Health Division of Vital Statistics Certificate of Birth

Reference Note 10
letter from William Haviland, April 19,1903

Reference Note 11
Notes from James Cromarty Groundwater's wife, Hattie, 1989

Reference Note 12
per Peter Groundwater Russell

Reference Note 13
LDS files

Reference Note 14
1881 Census

Reference Note 15
6232 Lincoln St., Chicago, IL



Groundwater

Jean Vesely (View posts)
Posted: 30 Sep 1998 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for your help. Looking forward to your notes. Sent a new Register Report to your email.

Regards, Jean

Family Ties

Tracey Janney (View posts)
Posted: 1 Oct 1998 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GROUNDWATER, WILSON, KIRKPATRICK
Hi Jean

This is what I know so far:

James Groundwater and Grissil Wilson had three children:
Magnus Groundwater c. 15 March 1713
Ursilla Groundwater c. 11 December 1715
James Groundwater c. 12 June 1720

Magnus Groundwater c. 15 March 1713 married Isobell Groundwater they had the following children:
George Groundwater c. 6 January 1737
Isabel Groundwater c. 14 October 1739
Jean Groundwater c. 27 March 1743
William Groundwater c. 12 May 1745
Cicilia Groundwater c. 18 September 1748
Katherine Groundwater c. 18 October 1748 (possibly the same person as Cicilia)
James Groundwater c. 15 August 1751

James Groundwater c. 15 August 1751 married Isobel Groundwater b. 21 November 1751 they had the following children:
Isobel Groundwater c. 8 August 1779
Barbara Groundwater c. 28 June 1781
William Groundwater b. 30 June 1783
James Groundwater c. 9 July 1786
Elspet Groundwater c. 2 January 1789
John Groundwater c. 22 May 1791
Ann Groundwater c. 30 December 1793

William Groundwater b. 30 June 1783 married Catherine Robertson b. 24 September 1786 and they had 12 children (I have details let me know if you want them!)

Elspet Groundwater c. 2 January 1789 married Ebenezer Kirkpatrick b.1783 (my 4th great grand uncle) they had one child:
James Gould Kirkpatrick c. 30 March 1828. I believe Elspet must have died during or shortly after James' birth as Ebenezer remarried on 21 December 1829. I am currently waiting on the results of some research to confirm this.

Sorry if this is too detailed but you did ask!

Let me know is you have any other information and I will keep you in touch with any interesting facts which hopefully arise as a result of the research I am waiting on.

Kind Regards
Tracey

Total Confusion

Tracey Janney (View posts)
Posted: 5 Oct 1998 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi William

I am not sure the information you have given is correct, I have an extract from the IGI which gives the a christening not a marriage on the 12 June 1720

James GROUNDWATER (M)................. C: 12 Jun 1720 Ba: C110232

Father: James GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506

Mother: Grisil WILSON Pr: 6901949

I suspect the second listing for 1726 is correct as the IGI contains the following:

Magnus GROUNDWATER (M)................ C: 15 Mar 1713 Ba: C110232

Father: James GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506

Mother: Grisil WILSON Pr: 6901949

Magnus GROUNDWATER (M)................ C: 8 Sep 1728 Ba: C110232

Father: Magnus GROUNDWATER Orphir, Orkney, Scotland So: 990506

Mother: Jean HAY Pr: 6901949

Magnus could have easily between christened in 1713 and married in 1726 and had a son also called Magnus in 1728.

This of course leaves us all with the dilemma of whether it was this Magnus who married Isobel and had seven children!!!

Trust this helps

Groundwater

Betty Brown (nee Groat0 (View posts)
Posted: 8 Jan 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
We are researching the Groat family from Orkney, one of the Groat girls married a Groundwater. she lives at Aberdeen Scotland at the present time. Will attach what we know. Good luck. Betty and Andrew.

Descendants of Isabel GROAT

Generation No. 1

1. ISABEL4 GROAT (JAMES SINCLAIR3, JAMES BICHON2, JOHN1) was born 1921. She married JAMES GROUNDWATER.

Children of ISABEL GROAT and JAMES GROUNDWATER are:
2. i. IVAN5 GROUNDWATER.
3. ii. MARLENE GROUNDWATER.
4. iii. LAWRENCE GROUNDWATER.
5. iv. LYN GROUNDWATER.

v. JIM GROUNDWATER, b. 1943; d. 1963.

Generation No. 2

2. IVAN5 GROUNDWATER (ISABEL4 GROAT, JAMES SINCLAIR3, JAMES BICHON2, JOHN1).

Children of IVAN GROUNDWATER are:

i. BARRIE6 GROUNDWATER.

ii. CAVIN GROUNDWATER.

3. MARLENE5 GROUNDWATER (ISABEL4 GROAT, JAMES SINCLAIR3, JAMES BICHON2, JOHN1). She married DEREK THOMPSON.

Children of MARLENE GROUNDWATER and DEREK THOMPSON are:

i. KAREN6 THOMPSON.

ii. RODNEY THOMPSON.

iii. STEPHEN THOMPSON.

4. LAWRENCE5 GROUNDWATER (ISABEL4 GROAT, JAMES SINCLAIR3, JAMES BICHON2, JOHN1). He married MARCELLA LYN.

Child of LAWRENCE GROUNDWATER and MARCELLA LYN is:

i. SYLVIA6 GROUNDWATER.

5. LYN5 GROUNDWATER (ISABEL4 GROAT, JAMES SINCLAIR3, JAMES BICHON2, JOHN1).

Children of LYN GROUNDWATER are:

i. JOANNE MIAR6 GROUNDWATER.

ii. JASMINE BELLE GROUNDWATER.

Groat

Tracey Janney (View posts)
Posted: 9 Jan 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

I cannot help with the Groats and Groundwaters you mention. I alos have direct descendants from a Groat line from Orkney. Do you have any siblings for Isabel?

Regards Tracey

Groat

Betty Brown (nee Groat) (View posts)
Posted: 11 Jan 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
James Sinclair Groat, was Betty's 1st cousin once removed, most of his children are still alive, and most live on the Orkney Mainland. hope this is of some help to you. Andrew & Betty.



Descendants of James Sinclair GROAT



1 James Sinclair GROAT b: 1876 d: 1946
.. +Mary JANE
.... 2 William GROAT b: 1909
.... 2 James GROAT b: 29 August 1911 in Deerness, Orkney ,Scotland.
........ +Ann BENSTON d: 1993
.... 2 Ralph GROAT b: 1913
.... 2 Robert GROAT b: 1915
........ +Mary TAIT
.... 2 David GROAT b: 1917
.... 2 Mary Alice GROAT b: 1919
........ +David HEPBURN d: 1993 in Orkney ,Scotland.
.... 2 Eva GROAT b: 1920 in Orkney ,Scotland.
........ +CURRIE
.... 2 Isabel GROAT b: 1921
........ +James GROUNDWATER
.... 2 Bessie GROAT b: 1922 in Orkney ,Scotland.
........ +George COGHILL
.... 2 Ethel GROAT b: 1923
........ +Verdon HARCUS
.... 2 Ernest GROAT b: 22 March 1925 in Deerness, Orkney ,Scotland.
........ +Robina Bella Campbell MORGAN b: 10 October 1937 in Peterhead, Scotland. m: 09 August 1963 in Peterhead, Scotland.
.... 2 Kathleen GROAT b: 1926
........ +Robert KEMP
.... 2 Sinclair GROAT b: 1928 in Orkney ,Scotland.
........ +Greta GERRARD
.... 2 Joseph GROAT b: 1929

John Groat

Betty Brown (View posts)
Posted: 12 Jan 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Tracey, this is as far back as I know.hope it helps.

Descendants of John GROAT



1 John GROAT b: 1816 in Orkney ,Scotland. d: 1844 in Orkney ,Scotland.
.. +Mary MACKIE
.... 2 John Hepburn GROAT b: 1839
........ +Mary from KIRKWALL
.... 2 James Bichon GROAT b: 1842 in Orkney ,Scotland. d: 1929 in Orkney ,Scotland.
........ +Mary SINCLAIR
.... 2 William Taylor GROAT b: 16 January 1844 in Deerness, Orkney ,Scotland. d: 24 April 1939 in Wentworth, NSW.
........ +Eliza Fanny NICHOLS b: 21 September 1864 in Moorna,NSW m: 13 December 1880 in Wentworth, NSW. d: 03 March 1917 in Wentworth, NSW.
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