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DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 21 Oct 2012 1:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
It would be much more helpful if we could see which of our close matches were also matches to each other. In that way we could more easily determine the actual ancestral family we all share. So, for example, if I match members A,B,C,D,E and B and D were also close cousins to each other, the three of us would most likely be cousins from the same family line.

Secondarily, give us a tool that combines all the family names of each of our cousin matches in one large file so that we could see a complete listing of family names and the number of matches those names appear in.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 21 Oct 2012 2:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Excellent idea! Sounds like you're struggling with making sense of your matches as much as I am! We definitely need help from Ancestry on these issues.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 21 Oct 2012 8:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks. I don't want to be critical of Ancestry's new product. But it could be a much more powerful tool with just a bit more work. I sometimes wonder if the people at Ancestry actually use their own product.

I've already posted this in their feedback page, but have not heard anything back.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 2:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 Oct 2012 11:12PM GMT
Are there still people helping? I am quite bewildered what to do about a line or areas that didn't show up in the matches. I don't know whether to just delete these branches right now or wait for more information? I don't know whether to continue to upload my photos or delete what I have and start over? I just received my results and at first they looked promising but I am very confused. It seems that all of the matches were focused on one portion of one branch of my tree. To use Christa's example of fruit and vegies from the blog I got all apples. That's it. There are no oranges, no melons, etc. It sounds like more hints may come in. Should I wait and see?

Both sides of my family are there but the first look at the matches provided did not reflect that. I am getting this straightened out now and will continue adding photos and documents.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 12:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Well, thats the real problem. The name Taylor appears in a lot of my cousin matches. But that name is not in my family tree. Is it merely a coincidence? Or is it meaningful? If I knew that those other Taylor descendants were also cousins, than I would have a much better clue if I should be looking at Taylors. The problem is that even at the fourth and fifth cousin levels, there could be thousands of names that might be cousins, if you consider that couples had many children and all those children married into different families.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 12:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
You should not delete anything from your tree just because you have not had a match for it yet. If you delete it you will never get a match for that line. Very probably no one has tested that is kin to that line. My last name is Hoy and I can trace my Hoys back to 1770s, but I have yet to match anyone named Hoy other than two close cousins. That said, I don't think any of my distant Hoy cousins have tested. If they don't test, I won't find a match.

Is your DNA test result attached to the correct person in your tree? Ancestry should only search surnames for the direct line of the person to whom the DNA is attached.

You need to understand that your matches will be the same, regardless of what is in your tree. Your DNA is entirely different than your tree and Ancestry cannot just look at part of your DNA. Your matches are based solely on your DNA and will be limited to the other people who have tested at ancestry. If no one from a particular line has tested you will not find a match for that line.

Ancestry will search the surnames of both trees based on the direct line of the two people to whom the DNA is attached in each tree. If it does not find a match, it should give you a list of possible surnames, but these are not necessarily your match. You should look at the surnames suggested and see if they are from the right area and timeframe. If not, your match may be a surname that you are not yet aware of. It is also possible that another branch of your family settled in a totally different area or did not come to America until 100 years after your line arrived here. There are lots of explanations for why some one might show as distantly kin even though it makes no sense looking at the other tree. And then, too, one of the trees could have errors. As I say, lots of reasons you might not see how you match some one else.

Hope this helps.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 4:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Oct 2012 5:41AM GMT
Nachalink123

My primary interest in doing this was for health purposes. There were 4 generations of essential tremors (3 of which have been diagnosed for my mother's side, which we believed to be the Day/Anstess family. I apparently have no connection to that family and possibly no connection to New England which is where they were from. So my primary reason for doing this is gone. This side also has a high percentage of Parkinsons which I know has previously not been considered inherited but I have to wonder. I do not have the tremors but my children may. I do have difficulty with hand movements, thus the frequent typing errors.

My secondary reason for doing this was to help be a responsible steward for photos that our family has. Since they are for places that I have no connection to and people that I apparently cannot be related to, my secondary reason for doing this is also gone. You cannot just pick up a photo of believed family members in an obvious Gloucester, Massachusetts location and apply the photo to somewhere in the south.

I am very grateful for the help and your thoughtfulness. I probably didn't react to this very well. There just doesn't seem to be much point in persuing my research any more but I will try to take a little time to think before letting it go.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 1:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'd like to repeat Nachalink123's comment. You may not show any connections to the Day/Anstess family YET, but maybe nobody from that line has tested at AncestryDNA. Fewer than 100,000 people are in the database currently. If you really want to know if you're genetically related to that family, the best way is to recruit some cousins to test and see if you match. The cousins should ideally be 3rd cousins or closer.

Also, you can be related genealogically but not share any DNA if the common ancestors are several generations back. See Blaine Bettinger's column

http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2009/11/10/qa-everyone-...

23andMe includes health issues in their reports, and they have a research project for Parkinson's. If you have any relatives who are currently diagnosed with Parkinson's, they can get a free test at 23andMe.



Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 1:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
I agree with APTurner. 23and me is the best place to test about health issues. Ancestry is primarily genealogy. I have tested at both. 23 and me gives you information about possible inherited health issues and has surveys to be filled out by participants to learn more about inherited traits.

Don't just assume you are not kin because you do not yet have matches. I tested at 23 and me almost 2 years ago and had a person there I knew I should match, but did not. I had to find another relative of the same line who had tested and he matched both of us. We used the raw data to show that his DNA overlapped both mine and hers on the same segment.

I have several lines that I show no matches for yet, but I also do not know of anyone researching those lines who has tested. Most likely no one of the line you are concerned about has tested or you simply don't share DNA with them on the same segment. I have a cousin who has tested at ancestry and she is getting different matches for some surnames that I don't match, but we should share that surname. You do not always share DNA with a distant cousin. Like he says, recruit some people you know should be kin to get tested. That is what I am trying to do.

Don't give up. Have your relatives tested at 23 and me and whenever Ancestry gets actual DNA data available, you should be able to compare at GEDmatch if you don't want to pay for testing at 23andme.

Re: DNA results listings improvments

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 3:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
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