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KLARE- Byren, Germany

KLARE- Byren, Germany

Posted: 31 Jul 2004 12:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Dec 2004 11:32PM GMT
Hello List Members-
I find the 1880 Census for Pittsburgh, Pa showing Rossa KLARE, Head of Household, Age 48. It shows that she, her Father and her Mother were all born in BYREN, Germany. Her children, Mikel (my line-later married to Elizabeth ERTEL-also born in Germany-unknown where), George, John, Josephine and Mary were all born in Pennsylvania, but it shows that their Father was born in Byren, too. I've come to a complete standstill finding out anything about this family. Is anyone familar with this name and/or family ? Who Rossas husband was ? Father, Mother? I can't find them on any other census.......
Many, many thanks!
Lynda Clear

Re: KLARE- Byren, Germany

Posted: 5 Aug 2004 12:14PM GMT
Classification: Immigration
Edited: 7 Aug 2006 2:25PM GMT
Surnames: KLARE / KLAHR
I don't know anything about your lineage but this is some information which hopefully can help you..
I doubt the enumerator should've written BYREN. What was most likely was BAYERN which is BAVARIA in Germany.
To learn more about genealogy from that area you can look at:

Bayern (Bavaria)
Niederbayern (Lower Bavaria)
Oberbayern (Upper Bavaria)

There are also these message boards:
Boards > Surnames > Klahr
Boards > Surnames > Klare
and I'm sure there must be one for Bavaria and also Germany which might be helpful.

From one of the surname message boards this was written:

"A passage in Rex O. Matthews book on KLAHRs
reads: The phonetic misspelling were usually
created by census takers, county clerks, and
others who delt with the German-speaking
'...had his last name spelled differently
on different records, Clawr, Glar, Klar, Klare,
Klarr, Klaur, Klaar'.

Good luck in your research!

Re: KLARE- Byren, Germany

Posted: 5 Aug 2004 6:22PM GMT
Classification: Immigration
Edited: 7 Aug 2006 2:25PM GMT
Surnames: KLARE / KLAHR
BTW - try this for German genealogy too - (inc.Bavaria)

Re: KLARE- Byren, Germany

Posted: 29 Aug 2004 1:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Feb 2005 7:33PM GMT
ERTL could also be HERTEL, some of who came to Pennsylvania from around Kirchschletten in Oberfranken, near Bamberg.
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