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Charles Holland (View posts)
Posted: 22 Feb 2001 10:58AM GMT
We are trying to find out more about our ancestor, HANS JOHANN JACOB GEBEL (1671 - abt. 1746)from Germany. Some of his relatives immigrated to Baltimore and settled in Maryland & Lancaster, Pa areas. We would appreciate for any good info. about them. Thank you, CH

Re: GEBEL

Bruce Moses (View posts)
Posted: 27 Sep 2001 3:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gebel Gable
Charles,
I am a descendent of John Harmon Gable (from info on the web page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~osfh/talladega/gabl...) who is the son of Jacob Gable (b. abt. 1789 Lexington Co., S.C., d. 1839 Carroll Co., GA.), he being the son of Harmon Gable (d. 1802, Abbyville Dist., S.C.).

Now I am running into several real problems with dates and events surrounding this Harmon Gable that I would like to outline for you (I apologize if these discrepancies are already known to you).

My questions first arose when I ran a search for Harmon Gables on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints web site (http://www.familysearch.com/ states). There, I found listed;

Harmon Gable
Compact Disc #23 Pin #324554
Sex: M
Birth: abt 1770 (obviously wrong)
Place: Germany
Death: 1802
Place: Abbeville, SC.
Father: Johann Gebel Disc #23 Pin #323489
Mother: Elizabeth Bens Marzall Disc #23 Pin #323472
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Rosanah Maria Merck Disc #23 Pin #324467
Submitter: CHARLES HOLLAND
234 N. PURDY ST. SUMTER, , SC 29150

This information which I assume has been compiled and/or submitted by you traces the Gable/Gebel family back several generations through Pennsylvania and then into Germany.

The "GABLE FAMILY OF THE SOUTH" homepage (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gablefam/) talks about these Gables, perhaps related to each other, who immigrated to Philadelphia from German or Dutch ports in the same period that a John Gable arrived in South Carolina. However, they suggest that most Gables of the South are actually descendants of a JOHN GABLE, a Palatinate or Swiss-German immigrant who settled with his family in Saxe-Gotha Township [present-day Lexington County] of colonial South Carolina. They also list the above Harmon Gable in the following manor:

Harmon Gable was born Bef. 1745 in England and died 23 July 1802 in Abbeville District, SC. He married Rosanah Margaret Maria Merck, daughter of John Merck and Elizabetha ?. She was born 18 November 1752 in Jakobsweiler, Pfalz, Germany.

So, both research lines seem to be speaking of the same Harmon Gable considering that either way he was married to Rosanah Maria Merck and his decendents are the same. The problem is that other researchers have Harmon's father listed as John Gable and his wife is Loduska Oswalt. The children of John and Loduska are listed as:

(1) Jacob Gable, (2) Harmon Gable, born Bef. 1745 in England; died 23 July 1802 in Abbeville District, SC. (3) Joseph Gable, (4) Samuel Gable, (5) John Gable, (6) Valentine Gable, born 15 August 1759 in Saxe-Gotha Township, SC; died 9 April 1841 in Tuscaloosa County, AL., (7) Robert Gable, (8) Henry Gable, born 17 July 1773 in Anderson, SC; died 12 October 1866 in Anderson, S.C., and (9) Elizabeth Gable.

When I first followed your pedigree, I saw that Harmon Gable's father is listed as Johann Gebel, (mother Elizabeth Bens Marzall) and that Johann Gebel's father is Johann Harmon Gebel, thus reestablishing the "John Harmon" name again. This Johann Harmon Gebel's father is shown as Hans Johann Jacob Gebel (and thus again, the name Jacob appears). The reoccurrence of these names seems to relate to a family tradition.

However, there seems to be at least some evidence indicating that Harmon is instead the son of John Gable who immigrated to the Colony of South Carolina with his wife and two children aboard "St. Andrew," around 1744. Do you have any ideas about these discrepancies/coincidences with the "Gebel" line or perhaps any suggestions as to where I might look answer these questions? Thank you for any help you may be able to give.

Re: GEBEL

Posted: 15 May 2006 9:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
I would like some information on this also. I have found that Harmon Gable whom married Rosanah Merck, His father's name was John Henry Gable (1722-1812) who was married to Luduska Oswalt. Please advise as I have some questions if we should have matching lines.
Posted: 12 Jun 2014 5:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
I've been researching a John (b. between 1761 and 1765) and Elizabeth Gebel (born between 1761-1769) who lived in Manheim Township, Lancaster County, PA and moved to Milton Township, Wayne County, OH in abt 1830. My grandmother heard a story about 7 Gable brothers who fought in the Revolutionary War from another Gable descendant who I believe was descended from John Gable and Elizabeth Marzall who lived in Warwick Township, Lancaster County, PA in 1820. I'm not sure if Elizabeth Bens (Benz) and Elizabeth Marzall are the same person or not. My ancestors John and Elizabeth Gebel are clearly different people than the Warwick Gables. One branch of this family stayed in Lancaster County.

I'm trying to find out more about HANS JOHANN JACOB GEBEL (1671 - abt. 1746) from Germany that Charles Holland mentioned in his post about the Gable family. I had given up on this until I realized that the Hambrecht family which married into the Gebel family immigrated a month after the SC Gable ancestors immigrated.

Alice Kalush
kalush@msu.edu
Posted: 12 Jun 2014 5:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
I've been researching a John (b. between 1761 and 1765) and Elizabeth Gebel (born between 1761-1769) who lived in Manheim Township, Lancaster County, PA and moved to Milton Township, Wayne County, OH in abt 1830. My grandmother heard a story about 7 Gable brothers who fought in the Revolutionary War from another Gable descendant who I believe was descended from John Gable and Elizabeth Marzall who lived in Warwick Township, Lancaster County, PA in 1820. I'm not sure if Elizabeth Bens (Benz) and Elizabeth Marzall are the same person or not. My ancestors John and Elizabeth Gebel are clearly different people than the Warwick Gables. One branch of this family stayed in Lancaster County.

I'm trying to find out more about HANS JOHANN JACOB GEBEL (1671 - abt. 1746) from Germany that Charles Holland mentioned in his post about the Gable family. I had given up on this until I realized that the Hambrecht family which married into the Gebel family immigrated a month after the SC Gable ancestors immigrated.

Alice Kalush
kalush@msu.edu
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