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Mary Barnes

Jenny Dee Robbins Dahl (View posts)
Posted: 18 Jan 2002 3:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Jan 2002 10:24AM GMT
Surnames: BARNES
If this isn't the right place (and I suspect it isn't, but couldn't find a Connecticut Witchcraft group), please direct me elsewhere. ;)

I'm the 10th great granddaughter of Mary Barnes, one of the last three witches executed in Connecticut in the 1660s. I have little information - and understand there's little available - but would love to connect with any other Barnes descendents who're interested in this event.

Are there any good sources of information I may have missed? I've gotten copies of 'Devil in the Shape of a Woman', notes from a lecture by Richard Dunn on 'Witchcraft Trials in Connecticut', and exerpts from William DeLoss Love's 'The Colonial History of Hartford'.

Thanks for any information / help you may offer.

Jen

Re: Mary Barnes

Roberta Bratti (View posts)
Posted: 1 Jun 2002 12:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Jun 2002 1:36PM GMT
Surnames: Barnes
Hi, Jen, I am also a granddaughter of Mary Barnes. Send me your address & I will share the little I have.
I have a theory that Thomas fell for the little girl next door & made arrangements with her father to marry her. I think this led to his getting Mary considered & convicted as a witch.
Roberta

Re: Mary Barnes

Ardith Newbold (View posts)
Posted: 3 Jul 2002 5:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 3 Jul 2002 10:10PM GMT
Surnames: GREGORY, OSBORNE
Were any of your family from Hartford or Fairfied County, CT ?
I am looking for a connection to John Gregory (Huntington's disease)?I have no idea who his parents were.
Born in 1823 or 1824 no birth date

1850 they were in Hartford, Hartford County, CT:
John Gregory, age 27, saddlemaker, born CT
Mary Elizabeth Osborne, age 25, born NY (England)
Edward, age 1, born CT

I appreciate your interest and assistance.
Ardith Newbold

Re: Mary Barnes

Posted: 20 Mar 2003 8:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Mar 2003 10:11AM GMT
Surnames: Barnes, Dickinson
I have a book, THOMAS BARNES OF HARTFORD AND FARMINGTON CONNECTICUT, BY Frederick R. Barnes. I copied it from microfilm at the LDS History Center in Salt Lake City. His wife Mary Barnes was executed as a witch and left three children, Sarah, Benjamin, and Joseph.
My great grandfather was Johnson W. Barnes, born Jan 13, 1827, Trumbull County, Fowler Twp, Ohio, migrated to Brighton, Iowa about 1850, married Julia A. Dickinson, b 12 Nov 1829 in Trumbull Co. Both their death certificates and US Federal Census indicate their parents were born in Connecticut (prob Litchfield). I have family heirlooms, letters, and photos of Julia Dickinson Barnes. I am trying to make a connection to Thomas Barnes' lineage because the book indicates that of several Barnes early immigrants, he was the only one to settle in the Hartford-Farmington, Connecticut area. I believe my Barnes migrated to Trumbull Co about 1812-13.
Does any of this match your info? I am very interested in anything you may have on the Barnes lineage.

Re: Mary Barnes

Roberta Bratti (View posts)
Posted: 27 Mar 2003 12:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Barnes, Andrews
I bought the Barnes book from Heritage in Salem. I was very disappointed in it. Do you have a library nearby that has NEHGR in their collection?
I have just moved so can't give you the Vol. & page offhand, but the article tells about Thomas making a pact with his neighbor John Andrews "if he allows his daughter Mary to marry him" ....what he will give her... also dispose of his children, except Benjamin, & perhaps Hannah, if Mary allows him to keep her. Looks like a bribe to me. I descend from daughter, Sarah, so the line ends there for me. Sorry.

Re: Mary Barnes

Andrea Eaton (View posts)
Posted: 9 Sep 2003 1:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Sep 2003 3:49PM GMT
Surnames: Barnes, Andrews, Richards
I live near the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. They have the NEHGR in their collection. I'd like to know what the Vol. # is regarding Thomas Barnes' pact with John Andrews. I'm descended from John Andrews' dau Hannah who married Obadiah Richards. Her mother's maiden name is supposed to be Barnes and my cousin and I think she may have been the sister of Thomas Barnes. We also have suspicions that Thomas had eyes for Mary Andrews and that's one reason why he wouldn't defend Mary. The other reason could be fear that he would then be accused, so I'd like to read this article.
Andrea Eaton

Re: Mary Barnes

Posted: 9 Sep 2003 1:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Apr 2006 12:20AM GMT
Surnames: Barnes, Scoville, Andrews
Hi, cousin,I have moved & all of my books & most materials are packed away until my apartment is built. 5 months now!!
If you send me your address I will copy what I have & send it to you.
I thought it was NEHGR (I can see it in my mind!) but my notes read TAG (The American Genealogist) 39:40/41. for the contract.
I descend from their daughter Sarah who married John Scovill, also. My Mom was born in CT, but sent to Cape Cod after her parents died, married & died there.
I also have copied from "Records of the Particular Court of Connecticut 1639-1663" , p. 259, which tells of Mary's indictment. I think old Thomas wanted his neighbor, Mary Andrews, so didn't try to help his first wife, Mary. Most authors think he had one wife Mary, instead of both with first name Mary. I just discovered that a few years ago, thinking Mary Andrews was the mother.
Roberta Bratti, 94 Main St. Ext., North Harwich, MA 02645
Tel. # 1-508-430-1874

Re: Mary Barnes

Andrea Eaton (View posts)
Posted: 10 Sep 2003 2:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Sep 2003 10:09AM GMT
Surnames: Barnes, Andrews
My address: Andrea Eaton
P.O. Box 472
Salem, Utah 84653

Thanks so much for your reply. As I said my cousin and I think that Thomas Barnes and Mary Andrew's mother Mary Barnes may have been brother and sister, that is if Barnes was the mother's maiden name. Everything we've found so far indicates that it is. The Library in Salt Lake also has the TAG articles, so I'll look at it next time I go up.

This whole thing doesn't say much for John Andrews does it?
Will be looking forward to receiving the information you have.
Thanks again.
Andrea

Re: Mary Barnes

Andrea Eaton (View posts)
Posted: 16 Sep 2003 8:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Sep 2003 10:30AM GMT
Surnames: Barnes, Andrews, Bronson
Hi Roberta,
I sent an email to you yesterday but it bounced so I decided to post here just so you'd know that I got the information that you sent.

It is Thomas Barnes and Mary Barnes (Mary Andrews mother)
that we think were possibly brother and sister. That is if Barnes is her maiden name. I've seen her name as Lily on other databases but I've not seen any documentation that says her maiden name is Lily. Of course I don't think I've seen any documentation that says her maiden name was Barnes either. This is all just supposition on my cousin's and my part, we really don't know.

I read a story yesterday on a website, about a man who was about 20 years old (in the 1600's) who heard of a family who'd had a baby girl, he went to see the baby and remarked to the mother that the baby was such a beautiful child that he'd marry her when she came of age and the mother replied that he would have her (or words to that effect). Maybe that's what happened in the case of Mary Andrews. Oh, by the way the man in the story did marry the beautiful child all grown up.
(I think this is a true story).

My cousin said he'd found an article in a book that said that Thomas Barnes testified against his wife. I'm going to have him show me where he found that and if so, I'll copy and send to you.

Thanks for the information you sent. I'm going to Salt Lake this week sometime and see what more I can find. Soon after Thomas' death Mary Andrews married Jacob Bronson, guess she didn't want anyone else arranging her marriages.

Andrea

Re: Mary Barnes

Posted: 17 Sep 2003 1:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Apr 2006 12:20AM GMT
Thanks for replying & glad you received the things I sent.
I would be interested in anything you find about this strange couple.
The story you were told is correct. It happened here on Cape Cod. I can't repeat it as my "stuff" is packed away until my apartment is finished. Can't find anything.
Anyway, when this man stopped at this house he did hold this baby girl & said he would marry her when she was grown. I believe he was married at the time, but his wife died before the girl was grown & he did marry her.
Strange tales are sometimes true & often not.
I don't know why the email bounced, but since comcast took over attbi strange things happen. Pop ups galore that you can't get rid of, & "naughty" e-mails, that I just delete. Can't be bothered with that garbage.
Keep in touch, cousin, Roberta
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